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16:57:49 <trackbot> Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
16:57:49 <trackbot> Date: 08 March 2011
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17:02:21 <eric> Zakim, aabb is eric
17:02:21 <Zakim> +eric; got it
17:02:48 <mphillip> Regrets: Phil
17:03:20 <mphillip> Topic: Appointment of the scribe
17:03:25 <mphillip> Scribe: Mark
17:03:32 <mphillip> Chair: Eric
17:03:39 <mphillip> Topic: Approval of prior meeting minutes
17:04:02 <mphillip> http://www.w3.org/2011/02/22-soap-jms-minutes.html
17:04:07 <mphillip> No objections to approving the minutes
17:04:15 <mphillip> Topic: Review the agenda
17:05:27 <mphillip> Agenda approved as-is
17:05:39 <mphillip> Topic: Administrative items
17:06:05 <mphillip> We will defer the question of skipping next week's call until the end
17:06:16 <mphillip> Daylight saving starts in the US next week
17:06:47 <mphillip> (Check the timeandate.com link )
17:06:53 <mphillip> Topic Action Items
17:07:18 <mphillip> Eric: action-244 - CXF *does* support WSDL
17:08:06 <mphillip> Eric: ( judging by the samples they have)
17:09:12 <mphillip> Eric: (which use the extension elements)
17:09:59 <mphillip> Eric: Will email the CXF list to confirm
17:10:43 <mphillip> Eric: action-245 - Yves was initally negative, but t hat might be down to a misunderstanding... Eric is clarifying 
17:12:09 <mphillip> Derek: action-222 - QA dept. will look at this later in April.  They had some reservations about using CXF - would prefer to test with another vendor's product
17:14:10 <mphillip> Eric: TIBCO can sympathise - customers may prefer to see interoperability with a commercial product - bu tthen Progress's implementation is likely to be based on CXF 
17:20:36 <mphillip> Eric: Problems are likely to be logistic and bureaucratic
17:21:06 <mphillip> Topic: Moving to PR (via CR? & LC)
17:21:15 <mphillip> Format of implementation compliance report
17:21:21 <mphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2011Mar/0000.html
17:27:08 <mphillip> Mark: Gives overview of test report format
17:28:11 <mphillip> Eric: Tempted by XML and a stylesheet but don't want to over-engineer
17:28:34 <mphillip> action mark to produce a complete vesion of the test results template 
17:28:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-246 - Produce a complete vesion of the test results template  [on Mark Phillips - due 2011-03-15].
17:30:10 <mphillip> Eric: Doesn't need to be super-formal - but it gives us a template to follow
17:31:30 <mphillip> Eric: Once we have a template we should circle back to CXF to ask them if they'd submit a version (Eric can have a first stab at this)
17:33:03 <mphillip> Eric: Main use for these documents would be as evidence of implementations to the W3C
17:33:38 <mphillip> Matthew: Some observations about the test suite...  
17:34:08 <mphillip> Matthew: It's not always clear about the criteria for determining pass/fail
17:34:29 <mphillip> Matthew: For example, no complete WSDL documents
17:35:32 <mphillip> Matthew: Are the messages rough examples, or the precise message which must be sent received....  what if the ordering is different or additional elements are present
17:36:23 <mphillip> Eric: Don't want to overwork this, but if there are specific examples then please submit them
17:37:17 <mphillip> Matthew: OK, as IBM develops tests, WSDL will be developed... Could give that WSDL back to the test suite
17:38:17 <mphillip> Eric: We're not looking to test the SOAP, just the SOAP/JMS additions to the messages...  
17:38:57 <mphillip> Matthew: Will submit issues to the group if defects are found in the tests (e.g. possible defect in Testcase 9)
17:40:02 <mphillip> Eric: Test changes have been following a slightly more lightweight process than spec. changes - we do not check the application of changes - so some defects may have crept in
17:40:42 <mphillip> Topic: Specification Issues:
17:40:48 <mphillip> Nothing new
17:40:59 <mphillip> Topic: URI scheme
17:41:24 <mphillip> Nothing new
17:41:30 <mphillip> Topic: AOB:
17:42:18 <mphillip> We will plan for a call next week - will be cancelled if nothing to say
17:42:31 <Zakim> -eric
17:42:33 <Zakim> -alewis
17:42:33 <Zakim> -Derek
17:42:34 <Zakim> -mgolbyki
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17:42:35 <Zakim> Attendees were alewis, Derek, +44.238.026.aaaa, +1.650.846.aabb, Mark, eric, mgolbyki
17:42:48 <mphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:42:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/08-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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