IRC log of au on 2011-03-07

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20:50:45 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be AUWG
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ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 50 minutes ago
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Meeting: WAI AU
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0072.html
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Chair: Jutta Treviranus
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Regrets: Cherie, AndrewR, AlastairC
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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+??P1
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-??P1
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zaki, code?
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zakim, code?
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the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Jan
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+[IPcaller]
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+??P1
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zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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zakim, ??P1 is really Alessandro
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+Alessandro; got it
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zakim, Alessandro is really AleMiele
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+AleMiele; got it
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zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see Jeanne, Jan, AleMiele
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On IRC I see AleMiele, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, trackbot
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+Tim_Boland
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+??P4
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zakim, ??P4 is really Jutta
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+Jutta; got it
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+Sueann
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Topic: Survey
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110302z/results
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Scribe: Jan
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Topic: Definition of author
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110302z/results#xq5
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Resolution: All accept "People who use authoring tools to create or modify web content. The term may cover roles such as content authors, designers, programmers, publishers, testers, etc. (see also "Part B Conformance Applicability Note #6: Multiple author roles"). Some authoring tools control who may be an author by managing *author permissions*. "
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Topic: Definition of authoring tool
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110302z/results#xq7
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+Greg
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Resolution: All accept the new definition.
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Topic: Wording of B.1.1.2 Content Auto-Generation During Authoring Sessions
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110302z/results#xq9
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@@B.1.1.2 Content Auto-Generation During Authoring Sessions (WCAG): Authors have the default option that, when web content is automatically generated during an authoring session, then one of the following is true: [Implementing B.1.1.2]
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Note 1: Automatic generation includes automatically selecting templates for authors.
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Note 2: This success criterion applies only to automatic processes specified by the authoring tool developer. It does not apply when author actions prevent generation of accessible web content.
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(a) Accessible: The content is accessible web content (WCAG) without author input; or (b) Prompting: During the automatic generation process, authors are prompted for any required accessibility information (WCAG); or (c) Automatic Checking: After the automatic generation process, accessibility checking is automatically performed; or (d) Checking Suggested: After the automatic generation...
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...process, the authoring tool prompts authors to perform accessibility checking. The WCAG 2.0 Level A success criteria are met (Level A); or
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The WCAG 2.0 Level A and Level AA success criteria are met (Level AA); or
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The WCAG 2.0 Level A, Level AA, and Level AAA success criteria are met (Level AAA).
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-Tim_Boland
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Resolution: All accepts wording "Content Auto-Generation During Authoring Sessions (WCAG): Authors have the default option that, when web content is automatically generated during an authoring session, then one of the following is true:"
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Topic: 2. B.2.1.1 Accessible Content Possible (WCAG) Proposal
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0076.html
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Resolution: All accept: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0076.html
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Topic: 3. Series of long-waiting non-normative (and hopefully minor) edits marked with a single "@":
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Resolution: All accept: @The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that web content transformations intended only to optimize content do not result in the introduction of web content accessibility problems.
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Resolution: All accept: @Pretty-print: A "pretty-print" tool reformats markup code to make it easier to read by programmers. The tool never makes changes to the markup tags.
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@Video compression: A tool that compresses video does not automatically delete text tracks or secondary audio tracks since these may contain accessibility information.
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Resolution: All accept @Video compression: A tool that compresses video does not automatically delete text tracks or secondary audio tracks since these may contain accessibility information.
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@The intent of this success criterion is to increase the likelihood that text alternatives will be preserved by web content transformations. This is especially important because text alternatives, such as labels and long descriptions, can represent substantial investments of author effort.
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Resolution: All accept: @The intent of this success criterion is to increase the likelihood that text alternatives will be preserved by web content transformations. This is especially important because text alternatives, such as labels and long descriptions, can represent substantial investments of author effort.
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@Save as HTML: A word processor includes a "Save as Simple HTML" feature that re-codes word processor files into HTML where there is a one-to-one correspondence between elements. As a result, some word processor-specific content is lost (e.g., change tracking, footnotes). However, because of the existence of the <img> tag in HTML, images are preserved and, in order to meet this success...
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...criterion, the text alternatives associated with the image are also preserved in HTML.
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Resolution: All accept: @Save as HTML: A word processor includes a "Save as Simple HTML" feature that re-codes word processor files into HTML where there is a one-to-one correspondence between elements. As a result, some word processor-specific content is lost (e.g., change tracking, footnotes). However, because of the existence of the <img> tag in HTML, images are preserved and, in order to...
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...meet this success criterion, the text alternatives associated with the image are also preserved in HTML.
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OLD: The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that if authoring tools only allow authors the ability to modify a subset of the properties of a content element, then the properties required for conformance to WCAG 2.0 are included in that subset.
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@The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that if authoring tools provide authors with content authoring support that goes beyond source editing (e.g., property dialogs, etc.) then accessibility information that is required for the content are similarly supported. In many cases, authoring tools support a subset of all of the possible properties that technologies might offer. This...
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...success criterion requires that the subset of supported properties must include properties required for conformance to WCAG 2.0.
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Resolution: All accept: @The intent of this success criterion is to ensure that if authoring tools provide authors with content authoring support that goes beyond source editing (e.g., property dialogs, etc.) then accessibility information that is required for the content are similarly supported. In many cases, authoring tools support a subset of all of the possible properties that technologies mi
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ght offer. This success criterion requires that the subset of supported properties must include properties required for conformance to WCAG 2.0.
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Resolution: All accept: @ (e.g. an "Image Properties" dialog).
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Resolution: All accept @Silverlight, Flex
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http://www.w3.org/WAI/AU/2011/ED-IMPLEMENTING-ATAG20-20110228/#sc_b121
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Topic: Implementing Success Criterion B.1.2.1 Restructuring and Recoding Transformations (WCAG)
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Action JR: Replace value judgement term with negative connotation term and flesh out a, b,s,d a bit morew
21:49:18 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-325 - Replace value judgement term with negative connotation term and flesh out a, b,s,d a bit morew [on Jan Richards - due 2011-03-14].
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JT: All members, esp from large companies, please make sure you have no more issues
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JT: Next steps as well comment responses, implementation research
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JS: Also we need to highlight what we think are the biggest changes
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JS: For the status section
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JT: We of course have considered all the comments, but we'd prefer not to have to approve comment reponsese point by point so will a 2 week window be sufficient?
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SN: 2 weeks is pretty tough
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SN: Esp with CSUN and spring break
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JT: We be after CSUN
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JT: What about splitting them into A and B
21:58:23 [Zakim]
-Greg
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JT: Will talk to everyone next wk - Mar 14
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-Sueann
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-Jutta
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-AleMiele
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-Jan
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-Jeanne
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended
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Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, AleMiele, Tim_Boland, Jutta, Sueann, Greg
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RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/03/07-au-minutes.html Jan
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RRSAgent, set logs public
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Zakim, bye
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RRSAgent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/03/07-au-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: JR to Replace value judgement term with negative connotation term and flesh out a, b,s,d a bit morew [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/03/07-au-irc#T21-49-17