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14:47:39 <Norm> Meeting: XML Processing Model WG
14:47:39 <Norm> Date: 24 February 2011
14:47:39 <Norm> Agenda: http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2011/02/24-agenda
14:47:39 <Norm> Meeting: 190
14:47:39 <Norm> Chair: Norm
14:47:40 <Norm> Scribe: Norm
14:47:42 <Norm> ScribeNick: Norm
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15:00:12 <Norm> zakim, what's the passcode?
15:00:12 <Zakim> sorry, Norm, I don't know what conference this is
15:00:52 <Norm> zakim, this will be xproc
15:00:52 <Zakim> ok, Norm; I see XML_PMWG()10:00AM scheduled to start now
15:01:06 <Norm> zakim, who's here?
15:01:06 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()10:00AM has not yet started, Norm
15:01:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see Vojtech, PGrosso, Zakim, RRSAgent, ht, Norm, Liam
15:02:31 <Norm> zakim, who's here?
15:02:31 <Zakim> XML_PMWG()10:00AM has not yet started, Norm
15:02:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see Vojtech, PGrosso, Zakim, RRSAgent, ht, Norm, Liam
15:02:45 <Norm> Yes, it bloody has, Zakim!
15:03:52 <Norm> If you want to slow your machine to a crawl, get a great big honking C++ app, change some file that everything depends on, and run make -j3
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15:05:36 <MoZ> Zakim, code?
15:05:36 <Zakim> the conference code is 97762 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), MoZ
15:06:20 <Norm> Regrets: Henry
15:06:25 <Norm> Present: Norm, Paul, Vojtech, Alex
15:06:36 <Norm> Present: Norm, Paul, Vojtech, Alex, Mohamed
15:06:50 <Norm> Topic: Accept this agenda?
15:06:51 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2011/02/24-agenda.html
15:07:08 <Norm> Accepted.
15:07:14 <Norm> Topic: Accept minutes from the previous meeting?
15:07:15 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/2011/02/17-minutes.html
15:07:16 <alexmilowski> huh ... rang and rang and then hung up on me
15:07:19 <Norm> Accepted.
15:07:25 <Norm> alexmilowski, try again?
15:07:30 <Norm> Topic: Next meeting: telcon, 10 Mar 2011?
15:07:52 <Norm> No regrets heard
15:07:57 <Norm> Topic: XML processor profiles
15:08:17 <Norm> -> http://www.w3.org/XML/XProc/docs/xml-proc-profiles.html
15:08:39 <alexmilowski> (trying skype instead)
15:08:57 <Norm> Norm: I like it. It's a little confusing but that's not our fault.
15:09:40 <Norm> Vojtech: It seems to me that we have six classes (A, B, B', P, V, and X) and then a list of which information items exist and which classes they apply to.
15:09:47 <Norm> ...But B and P are always used together so why can't we just merge them?
15:10:32 <Norm> ...Also, if you look at the profiles, there are no conflicts.
15:12:14 <Norm> Norm: I think A, B, and B' are about what the profiles provide; P, V, and X are about the items provided by the underlying processor. I think it would be a category error to combine them.
15:12:17 <Norm> Vojtech: Oh, ok.
15:13:06 <Norm> ...If someone wanted to introduce a different profile, maybe they'd need the distinction.
15:13:14 <Norm> Alex: And it's a clear indication of where things could be simpler.
15:13:51 <Norm> Alex: If I had a particular processor and I wanted to see if I conformed, that would require merging states like V and P.
15:14:38 <Norm> Norm: They things you have to provide to conform are enumerated in the sections above. For example, 2.2 says your underlying processor has to provide P and X.
15:15:10 <Norm> Alex: None use V
15:15:26 <Norm> Norm: No, we don't have a profile that requires DTD validation, which I think is the right thing.
15:15:54 <Norm> Norm: Paul, I know you asked some folks from XML Core to review it carefully, but I don't think that's happened yet.
15:16:04 <Norm> Paul: That's right.
15:16:29 <Norm> Vojtech: I asked about the references property, but I guess that's still unresolved.
15:17:01 <Norm> Norm: No, under Attribute Information Item, I think that's resolved.
15:17:06 <Norm> Vojtech: Oh, ok, I see. Yes.
15:17:35 <Norm> Norm: Any other discussion?
15:18:21 <Norm> I propose that we give the Core folks a week or so to review. If something significant comes up, we'll hold off on publication. Otherwise, we republish this as a new Last Call WD sometime early in March.
15:18:48 <Norm> Norm: Any objections?
15:18:52 <Norm> None heard.
15:19:07 <Norm> Topic: Any other business?
15:19:18 <Norm> Adjourned.
15:19:27 <Norm> rrsagent, set logs world-visible
15:19:30 <Norm> rrsagent, draft minutes
15:19:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/24-xproc-minutes.html Norm
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