16:57:36 RRSAgent has joined #soap-jms 16:57:36 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/02/22-soap-jms-irc 16:57:38 RRSAgent, make logs public 16:57:38 Zakim has joined #soap-jms 16:57:40 Zakim, this will be SJMS 16:57:40 ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes 16:57:41 Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference 16:57:41 Date: 22 February 2011 16:57:52 chair: Eric 16:58:13 alewis has joined #soap-jms 16:59:07 WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started 16:59:13 + +1.919.663.aaaa 17:00:27 mgolbyki has joined #soap-jms 17:01:05 padams2 has joined #soap-jms 17:01:10 +padams 17:01:43 +AndyColeman 17:02:19 -AndyColeman 17:03:02 +AndyColeman 17:03:30 zakim, who's here? 17:03:30 On the phone I see alewis, padams, AndyColeman 17:03:31 On IRC I see padams, mgolbyki, alewis, Zakim, RRSAgent, mphillip1, trackbot, Yves 17:04:16 +eric 17:04:44 eric has joined #soap-jms 17:06:32 Topic: Appointment of the scribe 17:06:41 scribe: mark 17:06:55 Topic: Approval of prior meeting minutes 17:07:04 http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-soap-jms-minutes.html 17:07:36 No objections to approving the minutes 17:07:42 Topic: Review the agenda 17:09:51 Agenda approved as-is 17:09:56 Topic: Administrative items 17:10:04 RESOLUTION: We will skip next week's call 17:10:10 Topic: Action Items 17:11:03 146 - still waiting for Oracle 17:12:00 243 - no news from TIBCO, but unlikely to make further progress 17:12:12 close action-243 17:12:12 ACTION-243 Tofind out what TIBCOare doing with Websphere (re: compatibility testing and latest versions) closed 17:13:05 244 - See public list archives for details - CXF support JMS addresses in the WSDL, but not the extension properties 17:13:37 Eric will do more investigation 17:13:53 Phil: No prgress on 223 17:14:02 Topic: Moving to PR (via CR? & LC) 17:16:06 Mark: If CXF don't support WSDL properties, would we consider making the properties part of WSDL optional? 17:16:50 Amy: The WSDL section is optional, but we could consider breaking it into two pieces (WSDL core which would be URI support) and WSDL extensions (the properties) 17:17:35 mgk: Base WSDL support would be the URI plus the SOAP transport 17:18:08 Amy: Yes, the heirarchical property support could become an extension 17:18:45 Phil: An implementation must support the URI - the fact that URI may exist in the port of a WSDL document doesn't mean the implementation supports WSDL 17:19:30 Amy: True - that's the way the specification is currently written (i.e. to support WSDL an implementation must support everything in the WSDL section) 17:20:41 Amy: But if implementors are not supporting the properties, then should we force them to support it? - perhaps it hasn't proved to be useful. 17:22:12 Amy: Propose we change the specification to make it clear that there is a core WSDL, and additional (optional) heirarchical properties. This allows implementors to claim support for WSDL without forcing them to implement something they may not find useful. 17:23:05 Phil: Giving implementors a choice to a) Not support WSDL; b) Support only the transport property and URI; c) Support everything - URIs and heirarchical properties 17:24:22 Eric: There are 4 normative assertions about WSDL - WSDL-Usage-3003 and WSDL-Usage-3004 would be core WSDL, and WSDL-Usage-3001and WSDL-Usage-3002 would be extensions 17:25:12 Eric: We could make the core WSDL a normative part of the base specification, and leave the properties as a WSDL extension. 17:25:31 Amy: +1 for moving the core WSDL to normative status 17:27:25 Eric: If we make heirarchical WSDL property support optional then it may be possible that we would only require one implementation to progress the specification 17:27:37 Eric: Would not be in favour of making it non-normative 17:28:03 action eric to check with Yves if we could allow only on implementation of the optional WSDL part 17:28:03 Created ACTION-245 - Check with Yves if we could allow only on implementation of the optional WSDL part [on Eric Johnson - due 2011-03-01]. 17:28:13 s/on/one/ 17:29:19 Topic: Specification Issues 17:30:12 Just issue 27 open - (the URI scheme is in the publication queue - should be published by the end of March) 17:30:26 this should allow us to resolve issue 27 17:30:34 eric has joined #soap-jms 17:30:45 Topic: URI scheme 17:34:06 Mark: Amanda Baber has sent a note to authors asking for confirmation about changes 17:35:03 TOPIC: AOB 17:35:19 None 17:35:51 Reminder:- next meeting is March 8th 17:35:57 -padams 17:35:58 -alewis 17:36:00 -eric 17:36:00 -AndyColeman 17:36:00 WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended 17:36:01 Attendees were +1.919.663.aaaa, alewis, padams, eric, mgolbyki, mphillip1 17:36:14 eric has joined #soap-jms 17:36:24 rrsagent, make minutes 17:36:24 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/22-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip1 17:36:31 rrsagent, make log public 17:37:12 padams has left #soap-jms 17:51:18 mphillip1 has left #soap-jms 17:54:08 mgolbyki has joined #soap-jms 17:54:19 mgolbyki has left #soap-jms 19:17:56 Zakim has left #soap-jms