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16:54:31 <burn> trackbot, start telcon
16:54:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:54:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
16:54:35 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:54:36 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
16:54:36 <trackbot> Date: 17 February 2011
16:54:40 <burn> zakim, this will be htmlspeech
16:54:40 <Zakim> ok, burn, I see INC_(HTMLSPEECH)12:00PM already started
16:54:57 <burn> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Feb/0014.html
16:55:35 <burn> zakim, who is here?
16:55:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see Michael_Bodell
16:55:37 <Zakim> On IRC I see burn, mbodell, Zakim, RRSAgent, smaug_, trackbot
16:55:45 <burn> zakim, nick mbodell is Michael_Bodell
16:55:45 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate mbodell with Michael_Bodell
16:55:50 <burn> zakim, code?
16:55:50 <Zakim> the conference code is 48657 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), burn
16:55:58 <Zakim> +Dan_Burnett
16:56:07 <burn> zakim, I am Dan_Burnett
16:56:07 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate you with Dan_Burnett
16:56:48 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:57:02 <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
16:57:02 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
16:58:19 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:58:25 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
16:58:51 <burn> zakim, [Microsoft] is Robert_Brown
16:58:51 <Zakim> +Robert_Brown; got it
16:59:49 <Zakim> + +1.425.580.aaaa
17:00:06 <burn> zakim, aaaa is Dan_Druta
17:00:06 <Zakim> +Dan_Druta; got it
17:00:21 <Zakim> +??P6
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17:00:49 <burn> zakim, ??P6 is Bjorn_Bringert
17:00:49 <Zakim> +Bjorn_Bringert; got it
17:00:57 <smaug_> just a second..
17:01:01 <burn> zakim, nick bringert is Bjorn_Bringert
17:01:01 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate bringert with Bjorn_Bringert
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17:02:03 <burn> zakim, nick Robert is Robert_Brown
17:02:03 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate Robert with Robert_Brown
17:02:11 <Zakim> +??P21
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17:02:34 <smaug_> Zakim, ??21 is Olli_Pettay
17:02:35 <Zakim> sorry, smaug_, I do not recognize a party named '??21'
17:02:40 <burn> zakim, ??P21 is Olli_Pettay
17:02:41 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
17:03:04 <Zakim> +Debbie_Dahl
17:03:07 <burn> Scribe: Bjorn_Bringert
17:03:16 <burn> ScribeNick: bringert
17:04:30 <ddahl> trackbot, start telcon
17:04:31 <smaug_> ddahl: I see "RRSAgent	logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-htmlspeech-irc"
17:04:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
17:04:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 
17:04:34 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
17:04:35 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Speech Incubator Group Teleconference
17:04:35 <trackbot> Date: 17 February 2011
17:06:21 <burn> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-htmlspeech/2011Feb/0014.html 
17:06:57 <bringert> topic: (virtual) face-to-face meeting
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17:09:00 <burn> bjorn:  have teleconf facilities in all major offices
17:09:00 <bringert> burn: we discussed having virtual face-to-face meetings
17:09:47 <burn> bjorn:  not fancy, but good enough for meetings
17:10:01 <bringert> bringert: Google has video conference rooms in London, New York, Mountain View, Kirkland etc
17:11:36 <bringert> DanD: AT&T has telepresence but not in Europe
17:11:57 <bringert> Robert: microsoft has telepresence in Reading, Redmond and probably New York
17:12:15 <bringert> burn: should schedule now to book travel
17:12:31 <bringert> burn: IETF in last week of March, week beginning March 28
17:12:56 <bringert> mbodell: unavailable in 14-18 march
17:14:09 <bringert> bringert: our videoconference stuff is not ideal, but it beats 20 hours on a plane
17:14:36 <bringert> bringert: will we have something to talk about?
17:14:46 <bringert> burn: how are proposals coming along
17:14:58 <bringert> burn: week of march 21 looks like best candidate
17:15:03 <bringert> burn: reserve that week now
17:15:42 <bringert> burn: 1-2 full days of talks
17:16:00 <bringert> burn: long phone calls don't work
17:17:45 <bringert> burn: need good quality: low latency + large screens to see faces
17:18:21 <bringert> Robert: MS has a VC unit, can test with bringert
17:23:44 <bringert> action Robert and Bjorn to test MS / Google VC setup
17:23:44 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2 - And Bjorn to test MS / Google VC setup [on Robert Brown - due 2011-02-24].
17:25:48 <bringert> topic: proposal status
17:27:22 <bringert> bringert: Google will update existing proposal with facilities to start recognition from scripts
17:27:36 <bringert> Robert: will submit proposals by Feb 28, with two layers
17:27:46 <bringert> s/two/three/
17:27:58 <bringert> Robert: doing rounds internally with IE, Bing etc
17:28:26 <bringert> smaug_: Mozilla will submit an early draft, probably close to Google proposal
17:28:49 <bringert> Robert: ours won't be fully complete either
17:29:24 <bringert> burn: I started because I have speech background, no plans to propose HTML tags etc.
17:29:34 <bringert> ... but discussion has moved towards JavaScript
17:30:02 <bringert> ... Voxeo has a multilanguage API called ?
17:30:29 <bringert> ... I will send it in to show a different way to structure things, but it's not created specifically for this group
17:30:39 <bringert> ... we are already using it today
17:30:50 <bringert> ... two people joined the group recently
17:30:55 <bringert> ... not on the call today
17:31:03 <bringert> ... one person from Intel
17:31:43 <bringert> ... and then Jerry Carter has also joined the list
17:31:57 <bringert> ... so we might see a few other proposals
17:32:46 <bringert> ... would be good for each proposal submitter to list whether proposal supports each requirement
17:33:00 <bringert> ... just to make it clear which proposals cover which requirements
17:33:28 <bringert> bringert: Milan is not on the call
17:33:37 <bringert> ... do we know Nuance's plans
17:33:46 <bringert> burn: a month ago Milan said he did not have time
17:35:45 <bringert> bringert: Milan has been mostly focused on more general audio streaming APIs, RTC web
17:35:58 <Zakim> -Dan_Burnett
17:36:18 <bringert> DanD: I'm trying to come up with a general architecture
17:36:33 <bringert> ... more use case driven than a technology proposal
17:36:45 <Zakim> +Dan_Burnett
17:37:00 <burn> zakim, I am Dan_Burnett
17:37:00 <Zakim> ok, burn, I now associate you with Dan_Burnett
17:37:35 <bringert> ... the primary goal is to take proprietary protocols and expose them in a standard way to the web
17:38:08 <bringert> bringert: real-time web audio doesn't need a proposal in our group
17:38:17 <bringert> burn: agreed, but we might have requirements for that
17:40:01 <bringert> bringert: update: some version of Google's proposed API is now live in a released version of Chrome
17:40:43 <bringert> burn: Tropo is already used, but if we come up with a different API that is useful, we would support that as well
17:40:53 <mbodell> s/API called /API called Tropos/
17:41:33 <bringert> burn: info about VC facilities to be sent to list by Tuesday
17:43:30 <burn> rrsagent, make log public
17:43:37 <burn> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:43:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/17-htmlspeech-minutes.html burn
17:43:43 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
17:43:46 <Zakim> -Michael_Bodell
17:43:55 <burn> rrsagent, stop logging
17:43:55 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop logging', burn.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
17:44:14 <ddahl> rrsagent stop
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