IRC log of mediafrag on 2011-02-16

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
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ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start now
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Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 16 February 2011
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scribe: Erik
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ScribeNick: Erik
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chair: Erik
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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0011.html
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regrets: Raphael, Thomas, Yves
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+ +329331aaaa
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Zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see +329331aaaa
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On IRC I see davy, Zakim, RRSAgent, erik, homata, silvia, foolip, trackbot, Yves
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Zakim, aaaa is Erik
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+Erik; got it
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Zakim, Davy is with Erik
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+Davy; got it
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I'll be on IRC
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but would like to go for lunch soon
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
10:12:43 [foolip]
what does "approve" mean, and what happens if I don't?
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TOPIC: ADMIN
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PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last week telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html
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+1
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+1
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+1
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RESOLUTION: last week's minutes accepted
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TOPIC: MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION
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So Philip, are you happy with the spec now (concerning your issue-19)?
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fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself
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fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself
10:17:44 [foolip]
no, not last I checked
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let me dig up the mail I sent
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0035.html
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no reply to that yet and no spec change as far as I'm aware
10:20:21 [foolip]
http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19 is still in state OPEN, as it should
10:22:16 [erik]
OK, chicken vs egg ...
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are you happy to commit these 4 patches yourself?
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and then the rest of the group has to object within a week ...
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if no objections, we go to LCWD, what do you think?
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I could, but I'm certain that it won't be popular
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I could perhaps be more moderate and only *add* stuff, leaving in things that I'd personally rather see removed
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ok, will give it a go
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+ +46.3.13.48.aabb
10:30:37 [erik]
foolip ... no disagreement any more (about e.g. parsing name-value pairs)
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foolip ... some patches were already installed, others were omitted ... some patches will add stuff, others will remove stuff
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foolip ... but most is editorial stuff, no real issues anymore
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ACTION: philip to merge the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec
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Created ACTION-212 - Merge the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec [on Philip J├Ągenstedt - due 2011-02-23].
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+ +61.2.801.2.aacc
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zakim, aacc is me
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+silvia; got it
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for the record: if no objections by the rest of the group, Philippe (as the last one of the WG) is happy to move on to LCWG for the 2nd time
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TOPIC: HTML5 / WHATWG Liaison
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0002.html
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davy ... will comment on Silvia's thread too on mailing list
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if people could please send their opinions on this, too, that would be appreciated
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email to the thread
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then we can decide next week
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silvia ... really wants all comments by next week, so she can move forward with this issue to the HTML5 group
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all other topics will be handled next week when we have more people on board!
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TOPIC: AOB
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- Davy and Erik attended Web & TV workshop @ Berlin last week ... most prominent discussions were:
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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and minutes are to be found : http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-webtv-minutes.html
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and http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-webtv-minutes.html
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-Erik
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-silvia
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
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... summary of workshop will be available soon.
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Present: Erik, Davy, Silvia, Philip
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W3C Web & TV workshop: lots of discussions regarding HTTP adaptive streaming
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MPEG DASH seems to become the standard for HTTP streaming
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there are still some doubts whether DASH will be royalty free or not
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Also, discussion regarding the integration of MPEG DASH within HTML5 were discussed
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s/discussion regarding/
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s/were/was
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-> related with the Multitrack API
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
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Attendees were +329331aaaa, Erik, Davy, +46.3.13.48.aabb, +61.2.801.2.aacc, silvia
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present: Erik, Davy, Silvia, Philip
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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