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10:00:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
10:00:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start now
10:00:35 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
10:00:35 <trackbot> Date: 16 February 2011
10:01:12 <erik> scribe: Erik
10:01:22 <erik> ScribeNick: Erik
10:01:34 <erik> chair: Erik
10:01:47 <erik> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0011.html
10:01:58 <erik> regrets: Raphael, Thomas, Yves
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10:03:11 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa
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10:10:16 <davy> Zakim, who's here?
10:10:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see +329331aaaa
10:10:17 <Zakim> On IRC I see davy, Zakim, RRSAgent, erik, homata, silvia, foolip, trackbot, Yves
10:10:30 <davy> Zakim, aaaa is Erik
10:10:30 <Zakim> +Erik; got it
10:10:37 <davy> Zakim, Davy is with Erik
10:10:37 <Zakim> +Davy; got it
10:11:03 <foolip> I'll be on IRC
10:11:12 <foolip> but would like to go for lunch soon
10:11:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
10:12:43 <foolip> what does "approve" mean, and what happens if I don't?
10:13:05 <erik> TOPIC: ADMIN
10:13:27 <erik> PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last week telecon: http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html
10:13:32 <erik> +1
10:13:43 <davy> +1
10:13:46 <silvia> +1
10:14:30 <erik> RESOLUTION: last week's minutes accepted
10:14:53 <erik> TOPIC: MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION
10:15:55 <erik> So Philip, are you happy with the spec now (concerning your issue-19)?
10:16:53 <erik> fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself
10:16:53 <erik> fyi ... ISSUE-19 [Philippe]: Parsing must be defined normatively in the MF spec itself
10:17:44 <foolip> no, not last I checked
10:17:51 <foolip> let me dig up the mail I sent
10:18:36 <foolip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Dec/0035.html
10:18:48 <foolip> no reply to that yet and no spec change as far as I'm aware
10:20:21 <foolip> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/issues/19 is still in state OPEN, as it should
10:22:16 <erik> OK, chicken vs egg ...
10:22:36 <erik> are you happy to commit these 4 patches yourself?
10:22:56 <erik> and then the rest of the group has to object within a week ...
10:23:20 <erik> if no objections, we go to LCWD, what do you think?
10:24:44 <foolip> I could, but I'm certain that it won't be popular
10:25:39 <foolip> I could perhaps be more moderate and only *add* stuff, leaving in things that I'd personally rather see removed
10:26:07 <foolip> ok, will give it a go
10:28:01 <Zakim> + +46.3.13.48.aabb
10:30:37 <erik> foolip ... no disagreement any more (about e.g. parsing name-value pairs)
10:32:34 <erik> foolip ... some patches were already installed, others were omitted ... some patches will add stuff, others will remove stuff
10:32:53 <erik> foolip ... but most is editorial stuff, no real issues anymore
10:37:19 <erik> ACTION: philip to merge the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec 
10:37:19 <trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Merge the first 3 patches of his mail of 15/12/2010 into the spec  [on Philip Jägenstedt - due 2011-02-23].
10:37:54 <Zakim> + +61.2.801.2.aacc
10:38:01 <silvia> zakim, aacc is me
10:38:01 <Zakim> +silvia; got it
10:40:14 <erik> for the record: if no objections by the rest of the group, Philippe (as the last one of the WG) is happy to move on to LCWG for the 2nd time
10:42:31 <erik> TOPIC: HTML5 / WHATWG Liaison
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10:43:38 <silvia> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0002.html
10:43:47 <erik> davy ... will comment on Silvia's thread too on mailing list 
10:43:53 <silvia> if people could please send their opinions on this, too, that would be appreciated
10:45:14 <silvia> email to the thread
10:45:21 <silvia> then we can decide next week
10:45:38 <erik> silvia ... really wants all comments by next week, so she can move forward with this issue to the HTML5 group
10:50:18 <erik> all other topics will be handled next week when we have more people on board!
10:50:34 <erik> TOPIC: AOB
10:51:25 <erik> - Davy and Erik attended Web & TV workshop @ Berlin last week ... most prominent discussions were:
10:51:45 <erik> RRSAgent, draft minutes
10:51:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
10:56:08 <erik> and minutes are to be found : http://www.w3.org/2011/02/08-webtv-minutes.html
10:56:08 <erik>  and http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-webtv-minutes.html
10:56:19 <Zakim> -Erik
10:56:23 <Zakim> -silvia
10:56:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
10:56:38 <erik> ... summary of workshop will be available soon.
10:56:56 <davy> Present: Erik, Davy, Silvia, Philip
10:57:34 <davy> W3C Web & TV workshop: lots of discussions regarding HTTP adaptive streaming
10:58:00 <davy> MPEG DASH seems to become the standard for HTTP streaming
10:58:25 <davy> there are still some doubts whether DASH will be royalty free or not
10:58:45 <davy> Also, discussion regarding the integration of MPEG DASH within HTML5 were discussed
10:59:13 <davy> s/discussion regarding/
10:59:20 <davy> s/were/was
10:59:48 <davy> -> related with the Multitrack API
10:59:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
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11:05:12 <Zakim> Attendees were +329331aaaa, Erik, Davy, +46.3.13.48.aabb, +61.2.801.2.aacc, silvia
11:12:27 <erik> present: Erik, Davy, Silvia, Philip
11:12:41 <erik> RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:12:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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11:14:38 <erik>  RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:14:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/16-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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