20:53:51 RRSAgent has joined #au 20:53:51 logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-irc 20:53:58 Zakim, this will be AUWG 20:53:58 ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 53 minutes ago 20:54:03 Meeting: WAI AU 20:54:13 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0045.html 20:54:35 Chair: Jutta Treviranus 20:57:00 Regrets: Andrew R., Greg P. 20:58:16 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started 20:58:23 +[Microsoft] 20:58:41 +[Microsoft.a] 20:59:19 jeanne has joined #au 21:00:06 AleMiele has joined #au 21:00:43 +Jeanne 21:01:34 zakim, code? 21:01:34 the conference code is 2894 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Jan 21:01:42 +[IPcaller] 21:02:01 zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan 21:02:01 +Jan; got it 21:02:26 +??P7 21:02:53 zakim, ??P7 is really Alexandro 21:02:53 +Alexandro; got it 21:03:13 zakim, [Microsoft] is really Cherie 21:03:13 +Cherie; got it 21:03:22 zakim, [Microsoft.a] is really Alex 21:03:22 +Alex; got it 21:04:48 Regrets: Andrew R., Greg P., Alastair C. 21:05:20 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0044.html 21:05:37 Topic: Schedule Discussion 21:07:43 +Sueann 21:08:03 Sueann has joined #au 21:09:32 Not meeting Feb 21 due to absence of multiple US, CDN members... 21:09:58 So a pre-CSUN TR draft will not be happening 21:10:56 Topic: 2. Feb 14 Survey 21:11:10 +??P8 21:11:30 scribe: jeanne 21:11:49 zakim, ??P8 is reallly Jutta 21:11:49 I don't understand '??P8 is reallly Jutta', Jan 21:11:53 zakim, ??P8 is really Jutta 21:11:53 +Jutta; got it 21:12:14 Jutta has joined #au 21:15:54 +Greg 21:21:18 topic: Closing out comments 21:21:43 Topic: AUWG Survey for 14 February 21:21:44 +Tim_Boland 21:21:54 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results 21:23:17 Jutta: Discuss with your company commenters to make sure that there is agreement with how we have handled the comments. Also any other issues from within the group need to be handled, so that we do not rehash issues that we have already worked through - especially with people internal to the group. 21:23:57 ... so any comments that come forward at this stage should be significant and not issues we have already addressed. 21:24:24 Tim: Is there a process to get feelers to see if there are any other issues? 21:24:53 Jutta: This next draft is a way to ask people to see if there are any issues left before we go into Last Call. 21:24:58 Topic: Survey 21:25:05 Topic: Proposal to remove B.2.1.1 21:25:14 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq2 21:26:46 JT: We will revisit 21:26:51 Topic: Proposal on document convention: WCAG 21:27:04 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq1 21:28:01 Resolution: All accept 21:28:08 Topic: New note under "Specialized Tools": 21:28:16 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq3 21:30:32 Note on Accessibility Checker: While accessibility checking functionality is an important part of an ATAG 2.0 conforming authoring tool, a stand-alone accessibility checker with no automated or semi-automated repair functionality is not considered an authoring tool because it is not used to edit web content for use by other people. 21:32:34 Jutta: While we are not going to be considering an accessibility checker with no repair or edit functions, when a checker is including in the authoring tool or when it is bundled with an authoring tool, it will be included 21:32:51 JR: Agree to GP's request for a note that checkers can be considered part of tool 21:33:55 Jutta: Creating, modifying content is what we want. 21:34:53 Alex: We are excluding specific categories, like Simple Text Editor, and Checkers that don't have repair, but we aren't giving the criteria for something being included/excluded which isn't sound. 21:45:31 jeanne has joined #au 21:46:24 Alex: We need to have specific if/then statements in the criteria 21:46:37 Jan: We have it in most success criteria. 21:48:00 Alex: Any given product can go through ATAG and go through the if/then statements in a yes/no. So a specialized tool like a checker will only say yes to the ones that apply. Then conformance doesn't have to deal with collections. 21:48:39 Jan: A lot of tools don't haave built-in checkers, so we wanted to encourage bundling with a checker 21:49:45 Jutta: We need to make it clear that if the Success Criteria doesn't apply, then we don't have to restrict our definition of authoring tool. 21:50:40 Action JR: To write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it 21:50:40 Created ACTION-322 - Write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it [on Jan Richards - due 2011-02-21]. 21:50:46 Jan: If it applies or not, then evaluate whether you met it. The conformance section section then says that you meet all the success criteria that apply to your tool. 21:50:58 Topic: Definition of author 21:51:02 Topic: Move "Live Authoring Tools" note 21:51:11 Resolution: all accept 21:51:18 Topic: Definition of authors 21:51:25 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110211/results#xq5 21:59:57 Action JR: Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors 21:59:57 Created ACTION-323 - Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors [on Jan Richards - due 2011-02-21]. 22:00:32 -Jutta 22:01:41 -Tim_Boland 22:02:19 -Cherie 22:02:21 -Alex 22:02:24 -Sueann 22:02:28 -Jan 22:02:29 -Alexandro 22:02:30 -Greg 22:02:58 -Jeanne 22:03:00 WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has ended 22:03:01 Attendees were Jeanne, Jan, Alexandro, Cherie, Alex, Sueann, Jutta, Greg, Tim_Boland 22:03:11 rrsagent, make minutes 22:03:11 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:03:51 rssagent, make logs public 22:03:56 rrsagent, make minutes 22:03:56 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-minutes.html jeanne 22:11:02 rrsagent, make logs public 22:52:21 rrsagent, bye 22:52:21 I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-actions.rdf : 22:52:21 ACTION: JR to To write a note about what "not applicable" means and how to use it [1] 22:52:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-irc#T21-50-40 22:52:21 ACTION: JR to Provide more explanation around why unaware people to be excluded as authors [2] 22:52:21 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/14-au-irc#T21-59-57