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19:30:30 <trackbot> Meeting: SVG Working Group Teleconference
19:30:30 <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2011
19:30:57 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG(SVG1)2:30PM has now started
19:31:05 <Zakim> +??P3
19:31:12 <Zakim> +Doug_Schepers
19:31:21 <ed> Zakim, ??P3 is me
19:31:21 <Zakim> +ed; got it
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19:39:14 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
19:42:28 <ed> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0136.html
19:43:17 <ed> Chair: erik
19:44:03 <ed> agenda+ SVG integration issues - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0135.html
19:44:16 <shepazu> scribenick: shepazu 
19:44:34 <shepazu> Topic: SVG in HTML / SVG Integration
19:45:34 <shepazu> tbah: I've sent in some use cases for using SVG as a substitute for PNG, with a PNG fallback, and I'm running into sandboxing issues around events
19:49:35 <shepazu> shepazu: given <a href="foo.html"><iframe or object/></a> or <div onclick="foo()"><iframe or object/></div>, is there a security problem with firing an event in the host document, as well as any interaction within the referenced SVG? 
19:52:51 <shepazu> pdengler: this works in IE9
19:53:21 <shepazu> tbah: not in any other browser I tested
19:53:27 <ed> if the data attribute in <object type="image/svg+xml" data="buttonA.svg"> was replaced to point to an html document instead, would the same thing happen?
19:56:30 <shepazu> pdengler: yes, works with .html as well
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19:59:11 <ChrisL> rrsagent, here
19:59:11 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-irc#T19-59-11
19:59:16 <shepazu> shepazu: works as img in WebKit, doesn't work as object
20:01:33 <ChrisL> tref should be able to solve some of the text issues
20:01:42 <ChrisL> but is inconsistently implemented
20:03:11 <shepazu> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/modules/param/master/SVGParamPrimer.html
20:03:57 <shepazu> ChrisL: could be good to have alt text brought in as SVG tref content
20:05:15 <shepazu> ed: would be good to have a table of browser results, also with .html content as well as .svg
20:06:02 <shepazu> shepazu: maybe Tav can help with SVG Integration spec
20:06:07 <shepazu> tbah: sure
20:07:33 <shepazu> tbah: looks like "currentColor" lets you reuse CSS from outside SVG
20:07:42 <shepazu> ChrisL: only in the same tree
20:08:35 <shepazu> shepazu: would be nice to be able to inherit style from parent document, if there's no security problem
20:09:20 <ed> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/the-iframe-element.html#the-iframe-element
20:09:47 <shepazu> ed: we should be able to use @seamless
20:10:07 <shepazu> ed: we should apply that to other types of inclusion for SVG2
20:11:19 <pdengler> scribeNick: pdengler
20:12:59 <pdengler> action: to tbah to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
20:12:59 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
20:13:09 <pdengler> action: tbah to to create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html
20:13:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2954 - To create table of results from Tav's test on http://tavmjong.free.fr/SVG/BUTTON_TEST/button_test.html [on Tavmjong Bah - due 2011-02-16].
20:13:17 <Zakim> - +39.537.7.aaaa
20:13:28 <pdengler> topic: SVG 1.1 2nd edition 
20:13:55 <Zakim> + +39.537.7.aabb
20:13:57 <pdengler> ed: Anthonyh checked in changes for issue:2339 for elevation filters and added a test
20:14:14 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0134.html
20:14:18 <pdengler> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
20:14:21 <ed> ISSUE-2339?
20:14:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-2339 -- Last Call Comment: definition of azimuth, elevation for feDistantLight -- open
20:14:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/track/issues/2339
20:14:52 <pdengler> ed: We have to just all agree it's a good change and review the tests.
20:15:04 <pdengler> actin: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight
20:15:10 <pdengler> action: ed to review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight
20:15:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2955 - Review tests for issue #2339 / filters feDistantLight [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
20:16:59 <ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/Full_11
20:18:13 <pdengler> ed: all other of my work items are mostly closed
20:18:36 <pdengler> ChrisL: I have an open action of removing wording on higlighting link.  There was a related item on fixing the tests.
20:18:43 <pdengler> ChrisL: Those are checked in.
20:18:55 <pdengler> ChrisL: I also have the changing the appendix action which I am half way through with
20:19:37 <pdengler> topic : Last few test cases on Test Matrix
20:19:45 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/status/implementation_matrix.html
20:20:16 <pdengler> shepazu: What else remains?
20:20:26 <pdengler> ed: Need to produce implementation report
20:20:40 <pdengler> ChrisL: What we are using is a perfectly good impelmentation report
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20:21:33 <pdengler> ChrisL: Broken links and valid HTML can take a while to hunt down
20:23:51 <ed> text-altglyph-02-b
20:27:47 <pdengler> ed: We need at least one implementation to move on
20:28:28 <pdengler> ed: Opera passes and batik has a partial passing.  This might be one that heycam could look at.
20:28:41 <pdengler> ed: We could split the case into to parts
20:28:49 <pdengler> pdengler: If we do that can we put it into the "fonts" category
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20:29:32 <pdengler> action: ed to split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts prefix 
20:29:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2956 - Split the tests and consider renaming to Fonts prefix  [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
20:30:08 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
20:30:19 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] is adrianba
20:30:19 <Zakim> +adrianba; got it
20:31:07 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg
20:32:27 <pdengler> ed: Batik / Safari partial pass and Opera passes. 
20:33:08 <pdengler> action: ed to split up test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg and recategorize under fonts
20:33:09 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2957 - Split up test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-04-f.svg and recategorize under fonts [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
20:33:23 <ChrisL> linking-uri-02-b
20:34:07 <ChrisL> need retests results for linking-uri-02-b and metadata-example-01-t for IE9 and Safari
20:35:10 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg
20:38:31 <Zakim> -ChrisL
20:39:08 <Zakim> +ChrisL
20:39:35 <ed> "The test relies on support for WebFonts - either SVG Fonts, or WOFF, or OpenType."
20:39:44 <ed> but no WOFF or opentype fonts are linked to
20:41:03 <pdengler> ChrisL: This font is used in a few spots and I cannot convert this font. But I will make a font that works for this test
20:41:39 <pdengler> ed: It relies on the advances of the fonts
20:42:20 <pdengler> action: ChrisL to provide alternate font for tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or some other font)
20:42:20 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2958 - Provide alternate font for tp://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-dom-05-f.svg to test the DOM methods if SVGFonts is not implemented (using WOFF or some other font) [on Chris Lilley - due 2011-02-16].
20:42:36 <ChrisL> fontforge seems to have an issue with importing svg fonts that use characters beyone plane zero
20:42:44 <pdengler> ed: As a back up plan, we could pull this out of the test suite and hold for a future time
20:42:59 <ed> http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg
20:47:27 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0019.html
20:47:33 <pdengler> action: ed to break down test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg and determine correctness;  change SVG Font to give proper alignment
20:47:33 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2959 - Break down test http://dev.w3.org/SVG/profiles/1.1F2/test/svg/text-text-05-t.svg and determine correctness;  change SVG Font to give proper alignment [on Erik Dahlström - due 2011-02-16].
20:48:32 <pdengler> topic: SVG Face to Face
20:48:38 <ed> http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/WG/wiki/F2F/Auckland_2011/Agenda
20:50:13 <ed> If you are leading a session or have proposals up for discussion, these must be on the wiki by Monday 14 February 2011 so that participants have a chance to read and consider them before the meeting.
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20:51:01 <pdengler> ed: Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for your topics by Monday 2/15
20:51:03 <pdengler> ed: Make sure that agenda items have associated wiki content for your topics by Monday 2/14
20:51:21 <pdengler> ed: Heycam and I will arrange agenda page and allocate time.
20:52:34 <pdengler> topic: marker colors and path colors
20:52:37 <ed> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-svg-wg/2011JanMar/0137.html
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21:02:52 <Zakim> -ChrisL
21:03:06 <Zakim> -adrianba
21:03:07 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
21:03:09 <Zakim> -ed
21:03:09 <Zakim> -Doug_Schepers
21:03:11 <Zakim> - +39.537.7.aacc
21:03:12 <Zakim> GA_SVGWG(SVG1)2:30PM has ended
21:03:14 <Zakim> Attendees were Doug_Schepers, ed, +39.537.7.aaaa, [Microsoft], ChrisL, +39.537.7.aabb, adrianba, +39.537.7.aacc
21:03:31 <ed> trackbot, close telcon
21:03:31 <trackbot> Sorry, ed, I don't understand 'trackbot, close telcon'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
21:03:44 <ed> rrs-agent, make minutes
21:03:49 <ed> rrsagent, make minutes
21:03:49 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-svg-minutes.html ed