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14:57:26 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:57:28 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:57:28 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
14:57:29 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Core Working Group Teleconference
14:57:29 <trackbot> Date: 09 February 2011
14:58:12 <r12a> thought i'd give it a try, addison ;-)
14:58:28 <r12a> nice, n'est-ce pas?
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14:59:01 <aphillip> Chair:   Addison Phillips
14:59:09 <aphillip> Scribe:  Addison Phillips
14:59:16 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:59:25 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2011Feb/0003.html
14:59:33 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
14:59:34 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has now started
14:59:37 <aphillip> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:59:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:59:41 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:00:00 <Zakim> + +1.617.466.aaaa
15:00:05 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:00:10 <Zakim> - +1.617.466.aaaa
15:00:17 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
15:00:38 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:00:39 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:00:39 <Zakim> +Richard
15:00:45 <freedom> freedom has joined #i18n
15:01:22 <aphillip> Regrets: kennyluck
15:01:54 <Zakim> + +44.141.888.aabb
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15:03:16 <Zakim> + +1.617.466.aacc
15:04:18 <matial> what is the passcode?
15:05:27 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
15:05:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see Gwyneth, andrewc, Addison_Phillips, Richard, David, +1.617.466.aacc
15:05:30 <Zakim> On IRC I see matial, freedom, Gwyneth, Zakim, RRSAgent, aphillip, David, andrewc, r12a, kennyluck, trackbot
15:05:47 <r12a> zakim, +1 is freedom
15:05:47 <Zakim> +freedom; got it
15:06:07 <matial> The answering machine does not accept 4186
15:06:14 <aphillip> Topic: Minutes and Agenda review
15:06:23 <r12a> mati, you may need to add the #
15:06:26 <r12a> at the end
15:06:38 <aphillip> minutes: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011JanMar/0031.html
15:06:50 <Zakim> +??P18
15:07:01 <r12a> zakim, ?? is mati
15:07:01 <Zakim> +mati; got it
15:07:32 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:08:26 <aphillip> close ACTION-13
15:08:27 <trackbot> ACTION-13 Publish time zone note draft in wiki form for wide review closed
15:08:27 <matial> mute mati
15:08:28 <r12a> http://www.org/International/track
15:08:46 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:08:48 <aphillip> close ACTION-14
15:08:48 <trackbot> ACTION-14 Send revised email response proposal about Widgets P&C to list closed
15:09:21 <matial> zakim mute mati
15:09:23 <aphillip> close ACTION-15
15:09:23 <trackbot> ACTION-15 Get our zakim teleconference schedules fixed with admin closed
15:09:55 <aphillip> david working on item 17
15:10:05 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:10:58 <aphillip> richard: writing modes published as WD
15:11:28 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/#
15:11:38 <r12a> http://www.org/TR/css3-writing-modes
15:11:40 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/TR/2011/WD-css3-writing-modes-20110201/
15:11:59 <David> zakim, mute me
15:11:59 <Zakim> David should now be muted
15:12:04 <matial> zakim, mute mati
15:12:04 <Zakim> mati should now be muted
15:12:07 <r12a> zakim, who's making noise ?
15:12:07 <David> any better?
15:12:12 <aphillip> yes
15:12:17 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: freedom (5%), andrewc (1%)
15:13:04 <aphillip> richard: looked it over and lots of "red ink" for me so far... issues related to bidi
15:14:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:14:32 <matial> can you give the URL for this bidi stuff?
15:14:54 <r12a> http://www.org/TR/css3-writing-modes
15:15:15 <aphillip> Topic: Widgets P&C
15:15:28 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011JanMar/0029.html
15:16:28 <aphillip> This does not, as you point out, work with items defined in the config.xml file itself.
15:18:38 <aphillip> The attribute 'defaultlocale' that you propose makes sense as a means of doing this. The alternative is to overload xml:lang="", but this has a number of negative things associated with it--such as the fact that it prevents the format from indicating what language the default is.
15:18:54 <aphillip> richard: happy with this note
15:19:10 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: forward reply on widgets P&C defaultlocale to webapps
15:19:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-18 - Forward reply on widgets P&C defaultlocale to webapps [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-02-16].
15:19:44 <aphillip> Topic: Working with Time Zones
15:20:40 <aphillip> Topic: CSS, HTML, etc.
15:21:53 <aphillip> Topic: process question
15:22:24 <aphillip> richard: not clear if we're going to talk about something if it is on the agenda
15:26:43 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:26:59 <David> zakim, unmute me
15:26:59 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
15:27:47 <aphillip> Topic: issue 88
15:28:05 <David> I have the doodle.com timechoices set up at
15:28:05 <David> http://doodle.com/b58wqx87g4hqgkbc Please choose your prefered times.
15:28:06 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: query HTML5 about issue 88
15:28:06 <trackbot> Created ACTION-19 - Query HTML5 about issue 88 [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-02-16].
15:28:37 <aphillip> Topic: Unicode in XML document
15:29:04 <aphillip> richard: look at changes
15:29:06 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2011JanMar/0025.html
15:29:27 <aphillip>  http://www.w3.org/International/docs/unicode-xml/
15:29:39 <aphillip> please look at this document and comment on it
15:30:00 <aphillip> richard: think that if we're okay we throw it back to Unicode board and go through their process
15:30:12 <aphillip> ... and then we need to look at the document for stuff like the bidi stuff
15:30:24 <aphillip> ... and decide if needs to go into document first
15:31:50 <aphillip> addison: their process isn't *that* fast, so maybe we have time to update it now; want to have HTML5 stuff in there if at all possible
15:33:08 <aphillip> addison: so... review next week for forwarding, then start on bidi update
15:33:28 <aphillip> ACTION: all: review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February)
15:33:28 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - all
15:33:55 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: remind everyone to review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February)
15:33:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-20 - Remind everyone to review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February) [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-02-16].
15:34:15 <aphillip> Topic: what time is the meeting at?
15:34:26 <aphillip> http://doodle.com/b58wqx87g4hqgkbc Please choose your prefered times.
15:34:49 <aphillip> david: chose dates well after the time change
15:35:05 <aphillip> ... set up for international options
15:35:18 <aphillip> ... shift the poll to your time zone and fill in
15:35:41 <aphillip> David: use your general availability not these specifc dates, please
15:35:53 <aphillip> ... will send note to list
15:36:15 <aphillip> Topic: SIP dial-in
15:36:32 <matial> zakim, unmute mati
15:36:32 <Zakim> mati should no longer be muted
15:36:39 <aphillip> richard: is anyone else using it? how is the experience mati
15:36:48 <aphillip> matial: very satisfied with sound quality
15:37:03 <aphillip> ... no hiccups
15:37:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:38:14 <aphillip> mati: using both ikega and xlight clients and seem to work
15:38:31 <r12a> s/xlight/X-Lite/
15:38:41 <matial> x-lite
15:38:51 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:39:18 <aphillip> Topic: AOB? 
15:39:48 <Zakim> -Gwyneth
15:39:52 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
15:39:54 <Zakim> -freedom
15:39:55 <Zakim> -David
15:39:57 <Zakim> -mati
15:40:01 <Zakim> -Richard
15:40:07 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:40:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:40:08 <Zakim> -andrewc
15:40:10 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()10:00AM has ended
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15:40:11 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.617.466.aaaa, Addison_Phillips, Gwyneth, Richard, andrewc, +44.141.888.aabb, David, +1.617.466.aacc, freedom, mati
15:40:23 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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15:40:30 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
15:40:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:40:36 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
15:40:36 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-actions.rdf :
15:40:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: forward reply on widgets P&C defaultlocale to webapps [1]
15:40:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-irc#T15-19-10
15:40:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: query HTML5 about issue 88 [2]
15:40:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-irc#T15-28-06
15:40:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: all: review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February) [3]
15:40:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-irc#T15-33-28
15:40:36 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: remind everyone to review Unicode in XML for approval next week (16 February) [4]
15:40:36 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/09-i18n-irc#T15-33-55