IRC log of au on 2011-02-07

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20:57:05 [Jan]
Zakim, this will be AUWG
20:57:05 [Zakim]
ok, Jan; I see WAI_AUWG()3:00PM scheduled to start 57 minutes ago
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Meeting: WAI AU
20:58:26 [Jan]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-au/2011JanMar/0034.html
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Chair: Jutta Treviranus
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Regrets: Cherie E.
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WAI_AUWG()3:00PM has now started
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+Jeanne
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+ +1.571.765.aaaa
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+[IPcaller]
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+??P5
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zakim, ??P5 is really Alastair
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+Alastair; got it
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zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jan
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+Jan; got it
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+??P6
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+[Microsoft]
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zakim, [Microsoft] is really Alex
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+Alex; got it
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scribe: jeanne
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zakim, ??P6 is really AleMiele
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+AleMiele; got it
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Topic: Finish Jan 24 survey
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Topic: Definition of programmatically determined (programmatically determinable)
21:07:17 [Jan]
zakim, who's here?
21:07:17 [Zakim]
On the phone I see Jeanne, +1.571.765.aaaa, Jan, Alastair, AleMiele, Alex
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On IRC I see gpisocky, alastairc, AleMiele, RRSAgent, Zakim, Jan, jeanne, trackbot
21:07:32 [Jan]
zakim, aaaa is really Greg
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+Greg; got it
21:08:03 [jeanne]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110113/results#xq11
21:11:47 [jeanne]
5 accepts, Jutta requests grammar edits. Alastair had changes for clarity.
21:12:09 [Jan]
When information is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
21:12:11 [Zakim]
+ +1.561.582.aabb
21:12:29 [Jan]
zakim, aabb is really Sueann
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+Sueann; got it
21:12:44 [Jan]
Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of a platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
21:12:44 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
21:13:00 [Jan]
zakim, [IPcaller] is really Jutta
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+Jutta; got it
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Processing content: Is the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
21:15:29 [jeanne]
action: jeanne to create a new survey to look for a new time for meeting.
21:15:30 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-319 - Create a new survey to look for a new time for meeting. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2011-02-14].
21:16:14 [Jan]
Processing content: Whether the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
21:16:24 [Zakim]
+??P0
21:16:29 [Jan]
Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of a platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
21:16:40 [Jan]
When information is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
21:16:46 [Jan]
- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of a platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
21:16:52 [Jan]
- Processing content: Is the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
21:17:51 [jeanne]
Information that is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
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+Tim_Boland
21:18:19 [Jan]
Information that is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
21:18:37 [Jan]
>- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of platform accessibility services, general-purpose APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
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- Processing content: Whether the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
21:20:13 [Jan]
SN: Suggests: Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of platform accessibility services, APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
21:20:53 [Jan]
Information that is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
21:21:01 [Jan]
- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of platform accessibility services, APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means following WCAG 2.0 so that the user agent can pass on the information.
21:21:08 [Jan]
- Processing content: Whether the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
21:23:53 [Jan]
For web-based user interfaces, this means ensuring that the user agent can pass on the information (e.g., through the use of ARIA).
21:24:19 [Jan]
- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of platform accessibility services, APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means ensuring that the user agent can pass on the information (e.g., through the use of ARIA).
21:24:28 [jeanne]
Alex: WCAG doesn't really address this directly. It may be confusing.
21:24:39 [Jan]
Information that is encoded in a way that allows different software, including assistive technologies, to extract and present the information in different modalities. ATAG 2.0 uses this term in two contexts:
21:24:46 [Jan]
- Communication between the authoring tool and assistive technology: For non-web-based user interfaces, this means making use of platform accessibility services, APIs, and in some cases document object models. For web-based user interfaces, this means ensuring that the user agent can pass on the information (e.g., through the use of ARIA).
21:24:52 [Jan]
- Processing content: Whether the authoring tool able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
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- Processing content: Whether the authoring tool is able to extract information from the content (e.g., to extract the language of content from the markup).
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Resolution: All accept the wording above for programmatically determinable.
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Topic: Definition of Definition of recognized
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110113/results#xq13
21:27:05 [Jan]
Resolution: All accept remove defn of recognized
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Topic: Definition of sequential keyboard navigation
21:28:38 [Jan]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110113/results#xq14
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Using a keyboard interface to navigate one-by-one through all of the items in an ordered set (e.g. menu items, form fields, etc.). This is in contrast to direct navigation methods such as keyboard shortcuts and bypass links.
21:32:45 [Jan]
Resolution: All accept add "sequential keyboard navigation"
21:32:55 [jeanne]
no objections
21:33:19 [jeanne]
This finishes the 24 january survey
21:34:05 [jeanne]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110204/results#xq2
21:34:19 [Jan]
Topic: Renaming "Applicability Notes" as "Conformance Conditions"
21:34:25 [Jan]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110204/results#xq2
21:36:26 [jeanne]
Alex: they are not conditions, they are disclaimers of W3C.
21:36:48 [jeanne]
Jeanne: Not all were conditions, so I didn't want to use the term.
21:39:55 [Jan]
Alastair: "Conformance Applicability"
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Jutta: "Conformance Applicability Notes"
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Resolution: All accept "Conformance Applicability Notes"
21:41:01 [Jan]
Topic: Proposal re: B.1.1.3
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http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110204/results#xq1
21:42:06 [Jan]
Resolution: All accept Folding " B.1.1.3 Template Auto-Selection (WCAG)" into a note in "B.1.1.2 Content Auto-Generation During Authoring Sessions (WCAG)": " Note 1: Automatic generation includes automatically selecting templates for authors."
21:42:13 [Jan]
Proposal to strengthen B.2.1.1 (was B.1.1.1)
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Topic: Proposal to strengthen B.2.1.1 (was B.1.1.1)
21:42:24 [Jan]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110204/results#xq3
21:45:05 [jeanne]
Greg: It is about the ability to do it, rather than the certainty that it should be done.
21:45:45 [jeanne]
Jutta: The authoring tool is only capable of editing what the authoring tool can edit.
21:48:27 [jeanne]
Alastair: one authoring tool can have a very simple interface, but follows ATAG, while another simply provides an HTML view. Both would be seen as equal under ATAG and that doesn't seem right. But I recognize that this would be difficult to quantify.
21:48:40 [jeanne]
Postponed for more discussion.
21:48:42 [Jan]
Action JR: To organize chat with Greg, Alastair, Alex about this B.2.1.1
21:48:42 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-320 - Organize chat with Greg, Alastair, Alex about this B.2.1.1 [on Jan Richards - due 2011-02-14].
21:48:59 [Jan]
http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35520/20110204/results#xq4
21:49:10 [Jan]
Topic: B.2.4.4 Save for Reuse:
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Greg withdraws objection.
21:51:46 [Jan]
Resolution: All accept: B.2.4.4 Save for Reuse: When authors enter programmatically associated text alternatives for non-text content, both of the following are true: (Level AAA) (a) the text alternatives are automatically saved and suggested by the authoring tool, if the same non-text content is reused; and (b) the author has the option to edit or delete the saved text alternatives.
21:53:54 [jeanne]
topic: Next publishing
21:54:01 [jeanne]
Jeanne: What's left?
21:56:16 [jeanne]
Definition of authoring tool, bundling of changes, maybe a couple more substantive changes.
21:56:39 [jeanne]
jeanne: We also need to make sure our comment responses are ok.
21:59:32 [jeanne]
Jan: People need to read the responses and make any notes about the comments - wording, tone, etc.
21:59:51 [jeanne]
Jeanne: I think the week after CSUN is a more realistic date for publishing.
22:00:49 [jeanne]
Jan: We don't want to go to Last Call again without people who made comments having agreed to the changes.
22:01:05 [Zakim]
-Alex
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-Sueann
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-Alastair
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-Tim_Boland
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-Greg
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-??P0
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-AleMiele
22:02:19 [jeanne]
zakim, bye
22:02:19 [Zakim]
leaving. As of this point the attendees were Jeanne, +1.571.765.aaaa, Alastair, Jan, Alex, AleMiele, Greg, +1.561.582.aabb, Sueann, Jutta, Tim_Boland
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rrsagent, make logs public
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/07-au-minutes.html jeanne
22:02:46 [Jan]
RRSAgent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/07-au-minutes.html Jan
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RRSAgent, set logs public
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action: Jeanne to review Andrew Kirkpatrick comments for AUWG.
22:08:28 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-321 - Review Andrew Kirkpatrick comments for AUWG. [on Jeanne Spellman - due 2011-02-14].
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