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18:01:27 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:01:27 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
18:01:28 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
18:01:28 <trackbot> Date: 04 February 2011
18:01:49 <Zakim> Team_(webapps)18:01Z has now started
18:01:50 <Zakim> +Shepazu
18:03:31 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:03:57 <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller]
18:03:57 <Zakim> I don't understand '[IPcaller]', smaug_
18:04:01 <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
18:04:01 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
18:08:42 <shepazu> Zakim, code?
18:08:42 <Zakim> the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), shepazu
18:11:02 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
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18:12:58 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
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18:19:33 <jrossi2> scribenick: jrossi2
18:19:56 <jrossi2> ISSUE:140 textInput event as default action of both keydown and keypress
18:19:56 <trackbot> Sorry, bad ISSUE syntax
18:20:22 <jrossi2> ISSUE140: textInput as default action of keydown and keypress
18:20:23 <shepazu> issue-140?
18:20:23 <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- textInput event as default action of both keydown and keypress? -- raised
18:20:23 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/140
18:21:03 <jrossi2> shepazu: suggestion is that keydown's default action is keypress, and keypress's default action textinput
18:21:14 <jrossi2> jrossi: agree
18:21:34 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: make keydown's default action keypress and keypress's default action textinput
18:21:34 <smaug_> I agree
18:21:51 <jrossi2> jrossi2:  how about mouse events?
18:22:17 <jrossi2> jrossi2: where do we, or should we, define click as default action of mouseup
18:23:54 <jrossi2> jrossi2: I'll investigate current behavior
18:24:16 <jrossi2> shepazu: you find that out, and I'll put it in the spec
18:24:22 <jrossi2> ISSUE-141?
18:24:22 <trackbot> ISSUE-141 -- IME examples -- raised
18:24:22 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/141
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18:28:09 <jrossi2> jrossi2: this is doable, we ran into this issue
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18:28:23 <jrossi2> jrossi2: I can research how we implemented this and send info to the list
18:28:44 <smaug_> ACTION: Olli_Pettay to test mousedown/mouseup default handling (focus and click events at least)
18:28:44 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - Olli_Pettay
18:29:01 <shepazu> action: jrossi2 to research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list
18:29:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-614 - Research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list [on Jacob Rossi - due 2011-02-11].
18:30:17 <jrossi2> ISSUE-142?
18:30:17 <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- one keydown might fire multiple keypress/textInput events -- raised
18:30:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/142
18:30:21 <shepazu> ISSUE-142?
18:30:21 <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- one keydown might fire multiple keypress/textInput events -- raised
18:30:21 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/142
18:30:29 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: agree and we'll change that
18:30:54 <shepazu> ISSUE-144?
18:30:55 <trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- exceptions in handlers during event propagation -- raised
18:30:55 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/144
18:35:01 <jrossi2> jrossi:2: I think all that's needed here is to specify that exceptions in event handlers don't stop propagtion
18:35:16 <jrossi2> smaug_: agree
18:35:38 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: clarify that event propagation still continues even if there are exceptions in event handlers
18:36:04 <shepazu> ISSUE-145?
18:36:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- Ordering event handlers registered by different means -- raised
18:36:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/145
18:38:59 <jrossi2> jrossi2: it's in the order they are registered, for event attributes it's when the attr is set
18:39:12 <jrossi2> jrossi2: so at parsing, if they are already in the markup
18:41:41 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: event order is in the order of when handlers are registered, whether at parse time or execution time
18:42:32 <jrossi2> issue-146?
18:42:32 <trackbot> ISSUE-146 -- Capture-phase listeners invoked on targets -- raised
18:42:32 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/146
18:43:34 <smaug_> http://dev.w3.org/2006/webapi/DOM-Level-3-Events/html/DOM3-Events.html#events-EventTarget-addEventListener
18:44:04 <jrossi2> smaug_: this is fixed
18:44:51 <jrossi2> issue-147?
18:44:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- re-dispatching an event that already has its flow started -- raised
18:44:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/147
18:45:14 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: clarify that this is in the spec and get a response from sergey
18:45:24 <shepazu> ISSUE-153?
18:45:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-153 -- Converting wheel events to mousewheel and DOMMouseScroll -- raised
18:45:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/153
18:47:34 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION: clarify platforms can vary, update example code, and mark just as informative
18:48:53 <shepazu> ISSUE-154?
18:48:53 <trackbot> ISSUE-154 -- Clarify diagonal wheel deltas on wheel events -- raised
18:48:53 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/154
18:55:42 <jrossi2> jrossi2: Windows has separate message for HSCROLL and VSCROLL, so I'm mostly certain we fire these separately
18:56:40 <jrossi2> smaug_: OSX may allow events to fire with both axes
18:57:01 <jrossi2> RESOLUTION:  clarify that this environment specific
18:57:59 <shepazu> ISSUE-157?
18:57:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- Problems with initKeyboardEvent -- raised
18:57:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/157
19:00:06 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
19:00:09 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
19:00:09 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
19:00:09 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Shepazu, Olli_Pettay, [Microsoft]
19:00:10 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:00:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
19:00:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
19:00:11 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-actions.rdf :
19:00:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Olli_Pettay to test mousedown/mouseup default handling (focus and click events at least) [1]
19:00:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-irc#T18-28-44
19:00:11 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jrossi2 to research how MS implemented issue-141 and send info to the list [2]
19:00:11 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/02/04-webapps-irc#T18-29-01
19:00:16 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
19:00:21 <Zakim> -Shepazu