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09:57:50 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG
09:57:50 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
09:57:51 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference
09:57:51 <trackbot> Date: 02 February 2011
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10:03:43 <Zakim> + +329331aaaa
10:04:48 <Zakim> +Yves
10:04:57 <Zakim> + +49.408.081.7.aabb
10:05:44 <Zakim> + +61.2.801.2.aacc
10:05:50 <silvia> zakim, aacc is me
10:05:50 <Zakim> +silvia; got it
10:07:37 <silvia> zakim, mute me
10:07:37 <Zakim> silvia should now be muted
10:07:54 <erik> regrets: Raphael, Philip
10:08:27 <erik> present: Yves, Erik, Davy, Silvia, Thomas
10:08:37 <erik> chair: Erik
10:08:45 <erik> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0000.html
10:08:55 <erik> Date: 2 February 2011
10:11:03 <silvia> zakim, unmute me
10:11:03 <Zakim> silvia should no longer be muted
10:11:04 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose silvia
10:11:22 <silvia> scribe: silvia
10:11:34 <tomayac> +1 to accept
10:11:41 <silvia> TOPIC 1 ADMIN:
10:11:42 <silvia> * Roll call
10:11:42 <silvia> * PROPOSED to accept the minutes of the last week telecon: 
10:11:42 <silvia> http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html
10:11:44 <erik> +1
10:11:45 <davy> +1
10:11:48 <Yves> +1
10:12:11 <silvia> TOPIC 2. MEDIA FRAGMENT SPECIFICATION
10:12:19 <silvia> zakim, mute me
10:12:19 <Zakim> silvia should now be muted
10:12:34 <silvia> * ACTION-196: Raphaël to address comments from the Media Annotations WG and draft a reply
10:12:48 <silvia> Raphael will do the edits tonight or tomorrow
10:13:06 <silvia> * ACTION-210: Davy to add the RTSP processing section as an appendix to the main document
10:13:16 <silvia> Davy just committed the changes
10:13:34 <silvia> close ACTION-210
10:13:34 <trackbot> ACTION-210 Add the RTSP processing section as an appending to the main document closed
10:13:36 <tomayac> +1
10:13:52 <silvia> * PROPOSAL: group vote on transition to another LCWD
10:14:06 <silvia> zakim, unmute me
10:14:06 <Zakim> silvia should no longer be muted
10:15:36 <silvia> Philippe is on holidays, but we need his input
10:16:27 <silvia> we will have a final go at this on Monday 16th Feb
10:16:39 <silvia> since Philippe is on holidays until 11th Feb
10:16:54 <silvia> we can still prepare the resolution amongst us
10:17:07 <erik> +1 on LCWG
10:17:23 <silvia> we only need agreement from Philippe on Issue-19
10:17:44 <silvia> vote: is everyone ok to go to LC#2 ?
10:17:49 <davy> +1
10:17:49 <silvia> +1
10:17:50 <Yves> +1
10:17:51 <erik> +1
10:17:52 <tomayac> +1
10:18:25 <silvia> RESOLUTION: we will go to LC#2 on 16th Feb pending agreement from Philippe and no disagreement from other WG members
10:18:49 <silvia> TOPIC 3. HTML5 / WHATWG Liaiso
10:19:04 <silvia> * HTML5 bug follow-up: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723
10:19:42 <silvia> Silvia's reply: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2011Feb/0001.html
10:23:17 <silvia> suggestion to create 6 new bugs to follow up on the previously rejected parts of the previous bug
10:23:49 <silvia> Thomas: suggests to make sure we only refer to the media fragement URIs that use "#" in the bugs
10:24:01 <tomayac> suggestion to add a clarification that in the bug if we say "media fragment", we exclusively talk about fragments in the hash (#t, #xywh, etc.)
10:24:01 <erik> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:24:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
10:24:38 <Yves> http://www.w3.org/2011/01/19-mediafrag-minutes.html#item03
10:26:46 <silvia> Yves: we should only do bugs on the end time and what happens with @loop
10:26:55 <silvia> silvia: let's discuss this in email
10:27:00 <silvia> Yves: restart a new thread
10:27:13 <silvia> ACTION: silvia to start a new thread on what bugs to submit to HTML5
10:27:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-211 - Start a new thread on what bugs to submit to HTML5 [on Silvia Pfeiffer - due 2011-02-09].
10:27:35 <silvia> TOPIC 4. IMPLEMENTATIONS
10:27:42 <silvia> * ACTION-203: Thomas to build a media fragment URI parser in javascript
10:27:51 <silvia> zakim, mute me
10:27:51 <Zakim> silvia should now be muted
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10:28:20 <silvia> thomas: have implemented a library that should cover all our specifications
10:28:24 <tomayac> http://tomayac.com/mediafragments/mediafragments.html
10:28:58 <silvia> .. do play with it and try to break it
10:29:07 <silvia> .. it has  a couple of basic checks
10:29:41 <silvia> .. available on Github
10:29:54 <Yves> we should test the output of this and http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/code/grammar/
10:30:02 <Yves> so have a bigger test suite for that
10:30:56 <silvia> thomas: there is a unit test in the Github code
10:31:13 <tomayac> unittests.html, based on QUnit
10:32:28 <tomayac> https://github.com/tomayac/Media-Fragments-URI/blob/master/unittests.html
10:33:06 <tomayac> congratulations, yves! enjoy your sleep while you can ;-)
10:33:24 <silvia> close Action-203
10:33:24 <trackbot> ACTION-203 Build a media fragment URI parser in javascript closed
10:33:32 <tomayac> yay :-) 
10:34:09 <silvia> TOPIC 5. OPEN ISSUES
10:34:15 <tomayac> thanks. @cramforce  helped with the design.
10:34:51 <silvia> issues 17 and 20 need Raphael and the rest of the group here
10:34:57 <silvia> they won't block our next LC though
10:35:23 <silvia> to be done in upcoming weeks
10:35:25 <silvia> TOPIC 6. TEST CASES
10:35:36 <silvia> * ACTION-209: Davy to convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version
10:35:45 <silvia> close Action-209
10:35:45 <trackbot> ACTION-209 Convert TCs from the wiki to an RDF version closed
10:36:06 <silvia> once we are in last call we have to check all the test cases
10:36:33 <silvia> Davy: we only have temporal test cases right now, not spatial and track, so would appreciate such contributions
10:36:44 <tomayac> i have couple of combined cases
10:36:47 <silvia> we test both test cases that should succeed and such that should fail
10:36:51 <tomayac> check the unittests.html file
10:36:59 <davy> will do, thx
10:37:02 <tomayac> i have failing and success cases
10:37:17 <tomayac> the expected output for invalid cases is simply empty object
10:37:43 <silvia> TOPIC 7. Use Cases and Requirements
10:37:52 <silvia> Erik: most of these are for the next version
10:38:42 <silvia> TOPIC 8. Movie Examples
10:38:43 <silvia> ok
10:38:49 <silvia> TOPIC 9. AOB
10:39:05 <silvia> Thomas is currently working on converting the client side application to be more an API
10:39:42 <silvia> changing the RDF to be based on media fragments
10:40:29 <Zakim> -silvia
10:41:56 <tomayac> bye. have a good one!
10:42:13 <tomayac> yves, good luck!!!
10:42:27 <Zakim> -Erik
10:42:28 <Zakim> -Yves
10:42:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html davy
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10:43:24 <erik> Thanks Silvia for Scibing & have a nice week !!! Take to you all next week
10:43:39 <silvia1> ah, you closed the meeting :)
10:44:35 <erik> rrsagent, draft minutes
10:44:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-mediafrag-minutes.html erik
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11:05:05 <Zakim> Attendees were +329331aaaa, Erik, Davy, Yves, +49.408.081.7.aabb, Thomas, +61.2.801.2.aacc, silvia
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