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14:52:12 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N_Core
14:52:12 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, aphillip
14:52:21 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
14:52:21 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_WG(MLW)10:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
14:53:10 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
14:53:15 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:53:15 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:53:24 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
14:53:30 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
14:53:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
14:54:07 <aphillip> Chair:   Addison Phillips
14:54:13 <aphillip> Scribe:  Addison Phillips
14:54:19 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
14:54:29 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2011Feb/0000.html
14:54:36 <aphillip> RRSAgent, draft minutes
14:54:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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15:00:26 <aphillip> zakim, code?
15:00:26 <Zakim> the conference code is 65932 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), aphillip
15:00:53 <aphillip> Our teleconference got displaced somehow.
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15:01:13 <aphillip> zakim, this is I18N
15:01:13 <Zakim> aphillip, I see I18N_WG(MLW)10:00AM in the schedule but not yet started.  Perhaps you mean "this will be I18N".
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15:01:39 <aphillip> Note: the dial in code has changed
15:01:43 <aphillip> zakim, code
15:01:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'code', aphillip
15:01:47 <aphillip> zakim, code?
15:01:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 65932 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), aphillip
15:02:06 <Zakim> I18N_WG(MLW)10:00AM has now started
15:02:15 <Zakim> + +972.5.225.5aaaa
15:02:22 <Zakim> + +44.141.888.aabb
15:02:35 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
15:02:37 <David> zakim, +44 is David
15:02:37 <Zakim> +David; got it
15:02:43 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:02:43 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:02:44 <Zakim> +Richard
15:02:49 <aphillip> zakim, I am Addison_Phillips
15:02:49 <Zakim> ok, aphillip, I now associate you with Addison_Phillips
15:02:59 <Zakim> +??P16
15:03:08 <aphillip> Use 65932 as dial in code
15:03:12 <Zakim> +??P19
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15:03:28 <David> zakim, mute me
15:03:30 <Zakim> David should now be muted
15:03:51 <Zakim> +??P21
15:05:03 <David> I hear a very bad echo on Addison
15:05:04 <r12a> can't you hear me ?
15:05:10 <David> no
15:05:13 <aphillip> can't hear you richard
15:05:16 <aphillip> I have an echo
15:05:19 <Zakim> -Richard
15:05:26 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
15:05:26 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
15:05:28 <Zakim> +Richard
15:05:44 <Zakim> + +972.7.474.6aacc
15:05:49 <David> hello
15:05:53 <David> I'm muted
15:05:55 <r12a> can you hear me now ?
15:05:58 <David> yes
15:06:05 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:06:05 <Zakim> sorry, aharon, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:06:22 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:06:22 <Zakim> aharon should now be muted
15:06:48 <r12a> 15:00-16:00Z
15:06:49 <r12a> I18N_CoreWG 15:00-16:30Z
15:06:49 <r12a> I18N_WG(MLW)
15:07:46 <aphillip> ACTION: richard: get our zakim teleconference schedules fixed with admin
15:07:46 <trackbot> Created ACTION-15 - Get our zakim teleconference schedules fixed with admin [on Richard Ishida - due 2011-02-09].
15:08:30 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
15:08:55 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
15:09:49 <aphillip> move action 4 to end of feb
15:10:28 <aphillip> 	Locate the UTR#20 source materials
15:10:37 <aphillip> richard: we don't have a copy
15:10:41 <aphillip> ... other than the note
15:10:55 <aphillip> ... so created a new one
15:10:58 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/docs/unicode-xml/
15:13:12 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
15:13:24 <kennyluck> q+
15:13:30 <aphillip> ack kennyluck
15:13:42 <aphillip> kennyluck: it's chinese new years eve
15:14:01 <aphillip> ... CSS3 writing-mode to go to last call this year, maybe june/july
15:14:55 <kennyluck> s/CSS3 writing-mode/CSS3 wrtiting-mode and text/
15:16:21 <Zakim> +??P11
15:16:51 <r12a> zakim, ??P11 is r12a-again
15:16:51 <Zakim> +r12a-again; got it
15:18:16 <aphillip> kennyluck: if you would like to see specific language in CSS3 text, you should do so quickly
15:18:31 <aphillip> norbert: does that mean that certainl languages are not covered?
15:18:53 <aphillip> kennyluck: was missing some indic script support and two others
15:19:20 <aphillip> addison: ecmascript i18n extension
15:19:55 <kennyluck> addison: they created something called locale info
15:20:39 <kennyluck> ... you may want to look into it
15:21:00 <Zakim> -Richard
15:21:23 <kennyluck> addison: MSFT would like an object for locale info for passing things
15:21:38 <kennyluck> ... some concern about inferred vs. set
15:22:39 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/blog/International/2011/01/28/an_opera_extension_for_the_multilingual_
15:22:44 <aphillip> richard: chaals has created a new extension for opera
15:22:47 <aphillip> ... see above link
15:23:10 <aphillip> ... user-interface selector for multilingual documents
15:23:30 <aphillip> richard: using the SIP interface to zakim
15:23:42 <aphillip> ... moving more folks to use SIP to dial in
15:23:53 <aphillip> ... which would help us
15:24:00 <aphillip> ... more info to follow
15:24:10 <David> zakim, unmute me
15:24:10 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
15:25:00 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi
15:25:05 <kennyluck> s/two others/southeast Asian and Arabic (inserted)/
15:25:06 <aharon> zakim, unmute me
15:25:06 <Zakim> aharon should no longer be muted
15:25:30 <aphillip> aharon: wondering about status of HTML5 bugs
15:25:53 <aphillip> ... wrote asking if there was special escalation for still-open bugs
15:26:22 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: ask HTML5 WG about still open bug process
15:26:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-16 - Ask HTML5 WG about still open bug process [on Addison Phillips - due 2011-02-09].
15:27:12 <aphillip> aharon: option alignment issue in www-style
15:27:37 <aphillip> ... basically only response was boris from mozilla
15:27:54 <aphillip> ... gecko applies all the style properties to option
15:28:09 <aphillip> ... others don't apply them or use native controls, etc.
15:28:35 <aphillip> ... default style sheet for gecko assigns text-align start to select
15:28:45 <kennyluck> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-style/2011Jan/thread#msg354 the thread about <option> and text-align
15:29:13 <aphillip> ... could add on parent etc.
15:29:13 <aphillip> ... rather than inherit
15:29:40 <aphillip> ... he thought it might not be desires
15:29:48 <kennyluck> [FYI, Boris is considered one of the most powerful people in mozilla]
15:30:00 <aphillip> s/desires/desired/
15:30:37 <aphillip> ... he doesn't think CSS should define what option should do
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15:32:24 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:32:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:32:24 <kennyluck> q+
15:32:30 <aphillip> ack kennyluck
15:32:49 <aphillip> kennyluck: want to mention 
15:32:53 <r12a> s/[FYI, Boris is considered one of the most powerful people in mozilla]//
15:33:01 <kennyluck> -> http://www.w3.org/TR/html5/elements.html#the-directionality the definition of the dir attribute
15:33:03 <aphillip> ... think that HTML5 should define dir attribute
15:35:17 <aphillip> richard: deal with in email
15:35:17 <kennyluck> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10807#c26
15:35:37 <kennyluck> i spoke to JOHN. <span dir=ltr>susan</span>, MIKE and ollie spoke to him too.
15:37:39 <Zakim> -matial
15:37:54 <aphillip> aharon: please send an email with example and text so we can discuss further
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15:38:42 <aphillip> Topic: Working with Time Zones
15:38:59 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/International/wiki/WorkingWithTimeZones
15:39:19 <Zakim> + +1.252.255.aadd
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15:40:50 <aharon> zakim, mute me
15:40:50 <Zakim> aharon should now be muted
15:40:54 <aphillip> richard: jump to quick guidelines
15:41:01 <aphillip> ... also some summarization
15:41:57 <aphillip> richard: yves lafon had a noted that was forwarded to you
15:42:05 <aphillip> addison: saw it, but haven't digested it yet
15:43:18 <aphillip> richard: need a home page blurb
15:43:55 <aphillip> addison: send richard copy about WWTZ
15:44:29 <aphillip> richard: small payload for tweetability
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15:45:03 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:45:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:45:44 <aphillip> david: do an s/i/I/
15:46:42 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
15:47:08 <aphillip> David: US will change clocks in about 6 weeks
15:47:21 <aphillip> ... we will need to (argh) change meeting time again
15:48:12 <aphillip> ACTION: David: fire up the time of this conference Doodle poll
15:48:12 <trackbot> Created ACTION-17 - Fire up the time of this conference Doodle poll [on David Clarke - due 2011-02-09].
15:49:35 <aphillip> richard: wondering if I should polish the minutes
15:51:32 <aharon> yes
15:52:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
15:52:33 <aharon> zakim, unmute me
15:52:33 <Zakim> aharon should no longer be muted
15:52:45 <Zakim> -Felix
15:52:46 <Zakim> -Norbert
15:52:47 <Zakim> -Addison_Phillips
15:52:48 <Zakim> - +1.252.255.aadd
15:52:50 <Zakim> -David
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15:53:05 <Zakim> -kennyluck
15:53:19 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
15:53:19 <Zakim> On the phone I see aharon, r12a-again
15:53:21 <Zakim> On IRC I see r12a, aphillip, matial, kennyluck, Zakim, RRSAgent, trackbot
15:53:38 <Zakim> -r12a-again
15:53:41 <Zakim> -aharon
15:53:42 <Zakim> I18N_WG(MLW)10:00AM has ended
15:53:43 <Zakim> Attendees were +972.5.225.5aaaa, +44.141.888.aabb, Addison_Phillips, David, Richard, Felix, kennyluck, Norbert, matial, +972.7.474.6aacc, aharon, r12a-again, +1.252.255.aadd
16:08:42 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:08:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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