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14:00:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DAP
14:00:31 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see UW_DAP()10:00AM scheduled to start in 60 minutes
14:00:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Device APIs and Policy Working Group Teleconference
14:00:32 <trackbot> Date: 02 February 2011
14:01:00 <fjh> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Feb/0002.html
14:01:33 <fjh> fjh has changed the topic to: dap 3279  ; http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Feb/0002.html ; please register Present+ first_last and update zakim  (fjh)
14:02:02 <fjh> Regrets+ Suresh_Chitturi, Frederick_Hirsch
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14:54:24 <fjh> Chair: Robin_Berjon
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14:55:09 <Dzung_Tran> Present+ Dzung_Tran
14:56:24 <darobin> fjh: thanks a lot!
14:56:38 <darobin> dom: I need to rush out and back, I might be 90 seconds late
14:56:54 <dom> s/dom:/dom,/
14:57:06 <dom> s/fjh:/fjh,/
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14:59:31 <Claes> Present+ Claes_Nilsson
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15:00:00 <nwidell> Present+ Niklas_Widell
15:00:19 <dom> Zakim, code?
15:00:19 <Zakim> the conference code is 3279 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), dom
15:00:35 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has now started
15:00:37 <Zakim> +??P10
15:00:39 <dom> Present+ Dominique_Hazael-Massieux
15:00:43 <dom> Zakim, ??P10 is me
15:00:43 <Zakim> +dom; got it
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15:01:22 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aaaa
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15:01:24 <Zakim> + +46.1.08.01.aaaa
15:01:28 <Zakim> + +46.1.07.15.aabb
15:01:41 <nwidell> Zakim, aabb is nwidell
15:01:41 <Zakim> +nwidell; got it
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15:02:00 <Claes> Zakim, aaaa is Claes
15:02:00 <Zakim> +Claes; got it
15:02:05 <Zakim> + +358.504.86aacc
15:02:08 <AnssiK> zakim, aacc is me
15:02:08 <Zakim> +AnssiK; got it
15:02:15 <cmarc> Present+ Cecile_Marc
15:02:21 <AnssiK> Present+ Anssi_Kostiainen
15:03:11 <Zakim> + +1.650.691.aadd
15:03:28 <Zakim> +harry
15:03:43 <dom> Zakim, aadd is probably Harald
15:03:43 <Zakim> +Harald?; got it
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15:03:58 <dom> Zakim, harry is really robin
15:04:09 <Zakim> +robin; got it
15:04:18 <hta> I have no idea what number I show up as this time...
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15:05:01 <Zakim> +Vincent_Mahe
15:05:34 <dom> Zakim, Vincent_Mahe is really Cecile_Mark
15:05:36 <Zakim> +Cecile_Mark; got it
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15:05:41 <dom> s/Mark/Marc
15:05:55 <jgiraud> Present+ Jerome_Giraud
15:05:56 <nwidell> Need to drop off irc for 20 mins or so, will remain on phone
15:06:36 <AnssiK> I can volunteer to be a scribe today
15:06:45 <darobin> Scribe: Anssi
15:06:48 <darobin> ScribeNick: AnssiK 
15:07:16 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Announcements, meeting planning, logistics
15:07:22 <darobin> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Jan/0006.html 
15:07:34 <Zakim> +Ingmar
15:07:43 <AnssiK> darobin: TPAC 2011 will be in Nov, 2011, five days meeting
15:08:04 <darobin> proposed RESOLUTION: Schedule DAP F2F during TPAC 2011 for 3-4 November 2011.
15:08:23 <Zakim> + +1.425.214.aaee
15:08:25 <AnssiK> ... DAP proposed to meet Thu+Fri on the TPAC week, ok?
15:08:42 <bryan_sullivan> present+ bryan_sullivan
15:09:00 <AnssiK> RESOLUTION: Schedule DAP F2F during TPAC 2011 for 3-4 November 2011
15:09:01 <ingmar> present+ Ingmar_Kliche
15:09:04 <darobin> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-device-apis/2011Feb/0000.html
15:09:23 <AnssiK> darobin: there's Zakim VIP access, see the link for more infp
15:09:29 <AnssiK> s/infp/info/
15:09:30 <dom> s/VIP/VoIP/
15:09:47 <darobin> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Jan/0096.html
15:09:47 <AnssiK> ... Messaging API draft was published last week
15:10:09 <AnssiK> ... let's discuss a bit about the Web Introducer, Claes, any news?
15:10:41 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43696/seoul-f2f-reg/
15:10:41 <AnssiK> ... (unable to hear Claes)
15:11:10 <AnssiK> ... there's a reg. page for DAP F2F, time to register to help host work out the logistics
15:11:17 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Minutes approval
15:11:18 <darobin> proposed RESOLUTION: Minutes from 19 January 2011 approved
15:11:46 <AnssiK> RESOLUTION: Minutes from 19 January 2011 approved
15:11:54 <dom> q+ to mention rechartering
15:11:56 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Contacts
15:12:49 <darobin> ack dom 
15:12:49 <Zakim> dom, you wanted to mention rechartering
15:12:57 <AnssiK> do people want to discuss the APIs now or re-schedule for the next week (low participation)?
15:13:14 <AnssiK> dom: we've been working on a new charter
15:13:25 <AnssiK> ... I've sent a mail to the list to ask for feedback on that
15:13:44 <AnssiK> ... it's just a draft, and I expect us to spend some time on that during the F2F
15:13:57 <darobin> http://www.w3.org/2010/11/DeviceAPICharter.html
15:14:03 <dom> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-device-apis/2011Feb/0005.html
15:14:20 <AnssiK> ... all feedback welcome
15:15:09 <AnssiK> niklas: what was the main problem with the existing charter
15:15:17 <AnssiK> dom: too broad a scope was one thing
15:15:48 <AnssiK> ... in addition, policy framework and group's approach to privacy
15:16:28 <AnssiK> ... summary: all changes in the charter were based on specific feedback from implementors
15:17:17 <AnssiK> bryan: there are web runtime vendors who are implementing BONDI etc. policy* parts
15:17:58 <AnssiK> dom: there has been very little concrete contributions toward the group
15:19:11 <AnssiK> bryan: Q on whether policy aspects are baked in the new charter
15:19:28 <AnssiK> dom: participation from the implementors is the key, that's lacking re policy*
15:21:23 <AnssiK> darobin: feedback re re-chartering can be provided via all the usual channels
15:21:31 <AnssiK> ... any other issues?
15:21:32 <dom> Regets +Lazlo
15:21:36 <dom> Regrets +Lazlo
15:21:39 <Zakim> -nwidell
15:21:41 <Zakim> - +1.425.214.aaee
15:21:42 <Zakim> -Cecile_Mark
15:21:44 <Zakim> -dom
15:21:46 <Zakim> -Harald?
15:21:47 <Zakim> -robin
15:21:49 <AnssiK> TOPIC: Adjourn
15:22:12 <darobin> thanks AnssiK
15:22:18 <Zakim> -Ingmar
15:22:20 <darobin> RRSAgent: make minutes
15:22:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/02/02-dap-minutes.html darobin
15:22:26 <Zakim> -Claes
15:22:30 <Zakim> -AnssiK
15:22:31 <Zakim> UW_DAP()10:00AM has ended
15:22:33 <Zakim> Attendees were dom, +46.1.08.01.aaaa, +46.1.07.15.aabb, nwidell, Claes, +358.504.86aacc, AnssiK, +1.650.691.aadd, Harald?, robin, Cecile_Mark, Ingmar, +1.425.214.aaee
15:24:47 <darobin> RRSAgent: bye
15:24:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items