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17:00:05 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
17:00:05 <trackbot> Date: 27 January 2011
17:00:35 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
17:00:46 <Julian> Zakim,. who's on the phone?
17:00:46 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, Julian.
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17:00:51 <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:00:51 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.251.280.aaaa, +1.732.238.aabb, [Microsoft]
17:00:53 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
17:00:53 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
17:01:04 <Julian> Zakim, +1.251.280.aaaa is me
17:01:04 <Zakim> +Julian; got it
17:01:21 <Zakim> +Sam
17:01:35 <Zakim> +Plh
17:01:45 <Zakim> +[Microsoft.a]
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17:01:54 <eliot> zakim, microsoft.a is me
17:01:54 <Zakim> +eliot; got it
17:02:02 <rubys> chair: Paul Cotton
17:02:05 <rubys> scribeNick: rubys
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17:03:09 <Zakim> +adrianba
17:03:21 <paulc> zakim, who's on the phone?
17:03:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see Julian, +1.732.238.aabb, [Microsoft], Sam, Plh, eliot, adrianba
17:03:23 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
17:05:13 <rubys> topic: 1. ACTION items due by Thursday, January 27 
17:05:18 <rubys> Action-29?
17:05:18 <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2011-01-20 -- OPEN
17:05:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
17:05:19 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29: Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:05:57 <rubys> plh: we made some progress... there is a new proposal which will be sent to the PSIG soon.  Maciej contributed to it.
17:06:15 <rubys> ... it does not address all of the use cases, but does seem to be promising
17:06:32 <rubys> ... hopefully I will be able to show it to the HTML WG at some point
17:06:54 <rubys> action-29 due Feb 24
17:06:54 <trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now Feb 24
17:07:15 <rubys> action-193?
17:07:15 <trackbot> ACTION-193 -- Paul Cotton to and co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt -- due 2011-01-27 -- OPEN
17:07:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/193
17:07:16 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-193: And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:07:45 <rubys> action-193 due in two weeks
17:07:45 <trackbot> ACTION-193 And co-chairs to investigate how to handle standardization of websrt due date now in two weeks
17:08:03 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aacc
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17:08:23 <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aacc is me
17:08:23 <Zakim> +mjs; got it
17:08:24 <rubys> plh: there is new information because of some talk at the FCC
17:09:21 <Zakim> +??P16
17:09:36 <paulc> SMPE TT: http://store.smpte.org/product-p/st%202052-1-2010.htm 
17:09:52 <MikeSmith> Zakim, ??P16 is me
17:09:52 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
17:10:01 <paulc> s/SMPE/SMPTE/
17:10:17 <rubys> Action-201?
17:10:17 <trackbot> ACTION-201 -- Sam Ruby to report on progress in rendering a WG decision on ISSUE-41 -- due 2011-01-27 -- OPEN
17:10:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/201
17:10:18 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-201: Report on progress in rendering a WG decision on ISSUE-41 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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17:10:44 <rubys> rubys: optimistic that we will have a decision next week
17:10:50 <rubys> action-201 due in one week
17:10:50 <trackbot> ACTION-201 Report on progress in rendering a WG decision on ISSUE-41 due date now in one week
17:11:00 <Zakim> + +1.715.718.aadd
17:11:10 <rubys> topic: 2. New Issues This Week
17:11:27 <Laura> Zakim, aadd is me
17:11:27 <Zakim> +Laura; got it
17:11:57 <rubys> paulc: saturday was the last date that issues could be raised for last call
17:11:59 <rubys> issue-157?
17:11:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- A comprehensive, semantic image map specification -- raised
17:11:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/157
17:12:00 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-157: A comprehensive, semantic image map specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:12:10 <Zakim> -Julian
17:12:22 <rubys> paulc: we currently have 47 issues pending for last call
17:12:30 <rubys> issue-158?
17:12:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- raised
17:12:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
17:12:31 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-158: HTML4s content-model for should continue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:12:38 <rubys> issue-160?
17:12:38 <trackbot> ISSUE-160 -- Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu -- raised
17:12:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/160
17:12:39 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-160: Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:12:52 <Zakim> +Julian
17:13:04 <rubys> issue-161?
17:13:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-161 -- Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis -- raised
17:13:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/161
17:13:05 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-161: Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:13:26 <rubys> paulc: all of these issues have had a call for proposals in accordance to our timeline
17:13:35 <rubys> paulc: we will pick up these in agenda item 6
17:13:39 <rubys> paulc: any questions?
17:14:38 <rubys> rubys: 2 of the 47 issues are actually LC issues
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17:14:48 <rubys> paulc: perhaps we can indicate that some way on the issue-status page
17:14:48 <janina> zakim, call janina
17:14:48 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
17:14:50 <Zakim> +Janina
17:15:00 <rubys> topic: Items Closed Last Week  
17:15:08 <rubys> issue-120?
17:15:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-120 -- Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology -- open
17:15:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/120
17:15:09 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-120: Use of prefixes is too complicated for a Web technology - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:15:37 <rubys> paulc: we have both a proposal and a change proposal (despite what the agenda says)
17:15:49 <rubys> issue-135?
17:15:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-135 -- put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec -- open
17:15:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/135
17:15:50 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-135: put back direct link to the W3C version of the canvas 2d context spec - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:16:11 <rubys> we have a proposal
17:16:23 <Julian> s/we have both a proposal and a change proposal/we have both a change proposal and a counter proposal/
17:16:35 <rubys> s/we have a proposal/paulc: we have a proposal/
17:16:42 <rubys> issue-139?
17:16:42 <trackbot> ISSUE-139 -- HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements -- open
17:16:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/139
17:16:43 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-139: HTML5 spec mentions Microdata in Acknowledgements - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:16:54 <rubys> paulc: we have both a proposal and a counter proposal
17:16:58 <Julian> q+
17:17:00 <rubys> issue-140?
17:17:00 <trackbot> ISSUE-140 -- clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification -- open
17:17:00 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/140
17:17:01 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-140: clarify the applicability of the term "conforming document" in cases where "applicable specifications" had been used to augment or change the base HTML5 specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:17:18 <rubys> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0239.html
17:17:19 <pimpbot> Title: Resubmission of Change proposal for HTML WG ISSUE-140: Conformance terminology when applicable specifications are used from Noah Mendelsohn on 2011-01-19 (public-html@w3.org from January 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
17:17:38 <rubys> juilan: noah posted a proposal
17:17:57 <rubys> topic: Items Closing This Week 
17:17:59 <Julian> q-
17:18:04 <rubys> issue-138?
17:18:04 <trackbot> ISSUE-138 -- "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading -- pending review
17:18:04 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/138
17:18:05 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-138: "mutate action" for issueing a GET request is misleading - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:18:25 <rubys> paulc: ... closed on jan 25
17:18:25 <Julian> s/juilan/julian/
17:18:32 <rubys> issue-119?
17:18:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-119 -- Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner -- open
17:18:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/119
17:18:34 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-119: Certain relationships take on a special meaning when repeated; other solutions may be cleaner - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:18:42 <rubys> paulc: closed on jan 26
17:18:47 <rubys> issue-125?
17:18:47 <trackbot> ISSUE-125 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content -- open
17:18:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/125
17:18:48 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-125: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to single quotes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:18:52 <rubys> paulc: also closed on jan 26
17:18:59 <rubys> issue-126?
17:18:59 <trackbot> ISSUE-126 -- Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content -- open
17:18:59 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/126
17:19:00 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-126: Requirement to break RFC 2616 compliance with respect to backslashes not needed for legacy content - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:19:11 <rubys> paulc: also closed on the same date.  Any questions?
17:19:18 <rubys> issue-142?
17:19:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-142 -- No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) -- open
17:19:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/142
17:19:19 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-142: No alternative text description for video key frame (poster) - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:19:36 <rubys> paulc: closed yesterday... 
17:20:00 <rubys> janina: there are both a proposal and a change proposal.
17:20:33 <rubys> paulc: is there a target for when the a11y TF will issue a recommendation?
17:20:38 <rubys> janina: 30 days
17:20:45 <rubys> issue-144?
17:20:45 <trackbot> ISSUE-144 -- <u> should be conforming -- raised
17:20:45 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/144
17:20:46 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-144: should be conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:21:02 <rubys> rubys: I don't see any proposals
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17:22:20 <oedipus> regrets+ Gregory_Rosmaita
17:22:22 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/UShouldBeConforming
17:22:22 <Julian> Change proposal for ISSUE-145 is in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0277.html
17:22:23 <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/UShouldBeConforming - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
17:22:24 <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal for ISSUE-145, was: ISSUE-145 (codecs-vs-octet): Chairs Solicit Proposals from Julian Reschke on 2011-01-22 (public-html@w3.org from January 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
17:22:27 <Julian> q+
17:22:39 <rubys> issue-145?
17:22:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-145 -- use of "codecs" parameter -- open
17:22:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/145
17:22:41 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-145: use of "codecs" parameter - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:22:57 <rubys> issue-146?
17:22:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-146 -- <video> should allow muted as a content attribute -- open
17:22:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/146
17:22:58 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-146: should allow muted as a content attribute - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:23:27 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/VideoMuted
17:23:28 <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/VideoMuted - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
17:23:39 <Julian> q+
17:23:48 <rubys> paulc: we made good progress on these 4
17:25:02 <rubys> julian: I argue that the counter proposal for issue 145 is out of scope as it proposes something considerably larger than what the original bug was reported on
17:25:07 <Julian> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0294.html
17:25:07 <paulc> 145 proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0277.html
17:25:08 <pimpbot> Title: Re: ISSUE-145 (codecs-vs-octet): Chairs Solicit Proposals from Philip Jägenstedt on 2011-01-23 (public-html@w3.org from January 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
17:25:09 <pimpbot> Title: Change Proposal for ISSUE-145, was: ISSUE-145 (codecs-vs-octet): Chairs Solicit Proposals from Julian Reschke on 2011-01-22 (public-html@w3.org from January 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
17:25:20 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11893] define lexical processing rules for ARIA attributes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0944.html> 4** [Bug 11892] explicitly state that ARIA states and properties are formal/normative HTML attributes <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0943.html>
17:26:11 <rubys> paulc: did you respond on list?
17:26:15 <rubys> julian: just did
17:26:28 <Julian> see http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2011Jan/0410.html
17:26:30 <pimpbot> Title: Re: ISSUE-145 (codecs-vs-octet): Chairs Solicit Proposals from Julian Reschke on 2011-01-27 (public-html@w3.org from January 2011) (at lists.w3.org)
17:26:31 <Julian> q-
17:26:37 <rubys> paulc: thanks for that information
17:26:40 <rubys> topic: 5. Items Closing Next Week 
17:26:49 <rubys> issue-147?
17:26:49 <trackbot> ISSUE-147 -- playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent can't play back at the requested rate -- raised
17:26:49 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/147
17:26:50 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-147: playbackrate: undefined behavior when the user agent cant play back at the requested rate - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:27:19 <rubys> paulc: no proposals received yet, due feb 6
17:27:24 <rubys> issue-148?
17:27:24 <trackbot> ISSUE-148 -- Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter -- raised
17:27:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/148
17:27:25 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-148: Algorithm for detecting the charset="" parameter - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:27:29 <rubys> paulc: no proposals yet
17:27:33 <rubys> issue-149?
17:27:33 <trackbot> ISSUE-149 -- Use markup compatible with both HTML/XML syntax in examples -- raised
17:27:33 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/149
17:27:34 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-149: Use markup compatible with both HTML/XML syntax in examples - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:27:44 <Zakim> -Julian
17:27:45 <rubys> paulc: call made jan5; no proposals yet
17:27:52 <rubys> issue-151?
17:27:52 <trackbot> ISSUE-151 -- Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document -- open
17:27:52 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/151
17:27:53 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-151: Remove WhatWG and html5.org references in status section of document - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:28:08 <rubys> rubys: we got a counter proposal on 151
17:28:14 <paulc> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/NO-ISSUE-151
17:28:15 <pimpbot> Title: ChangeProposals/NO-ISSUE-151 - HTML WG Wiki (at www.w3.org)
17:28:20 <Zakim> +Julian
17:28:28 <rubys> rubys: there is still plenty of time for people to create proposals
17:28:44 <rubys> topic: 6. New Calls this week 
17:29:04 <Julian> Zakim, who's on the phone?
17:29:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.732.238.aabb, [Microsoft], Sam, Plh (muted), eliot, adrianba, mjs, MikeSmith, Laura, Janina, Julian
17:29:06 <rubys> paulc: fall into three categories.  The first four were proposed earlier in the week...
17:29:06 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
17:29:08 <rubys> issue-131?
17:29:08 <trackbot> ISSUE-131 -- Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? -- raised
17:29:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/131
17:29:09 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-131: Should we add a caret location API to canvas, or is the focus API sufficient? - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:29:21 <rubys> paulc: janina, any status?
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17:30:14 <rubys> issue-152?
17:30:14 <trackbot> ISSUE-152 -- Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource -- raised
17:30:14 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/152
17:30:15 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-152: Handling of additional tracks of a multitrack audio/video resource - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:30:27 <rubys> issue-155?
17:30:27 <trackbot> ISSUE-155 -- make <table border="1" cellpadding="10" cellspacing="0"> conforming -- open
17:30:27 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/155
17:30:28 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-155: make conforming - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:30:37 <rubys> issue-156?
17:30:37 <trackbot> ISSUE-156 -- Permit closing tag for new, void elements - for legacy compatibility = XHTML alignment -- raised
17:30:37 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/156
17:30:38 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-156: Permit closing tag for new, void elements - for legacy compatibility = XHTML alignment - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:30:42 <rubys> paulc: all of these are due on Feb 21
17:31:10 <rubys> paulc: second batch cover the 'last chance' issues.... all are due Feb 23, all covered previously in the agenda
17:31:15 <rubys> issue-157?
17:31:15 <trackbot> ISSUE-157 -- A comprehensive, semantic image map specification -- raised
17:31:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/157
17:31:16 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-157: A comprehensive, semantic image map specification - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:31:26 <rubys> issue-158?
17:31:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-158 -- HTML4's content-model for <object> should continue -- raised
17:31:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/158
17:31:27 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-158: HTML4s content-model for should continue - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:31:35 <rubys> issue-160?
17:31:35 <trackbot> ISSUE-160 -- Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu -- raised
17:31:35 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/160
17:31:36 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-160: Remove restriction on command element as part of a menu - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:31:43 <rubys> issue-161?
17:31:43 <trackbot> ISSUE-161 -- Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis -- raised
17:31:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/161
17:31:44 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-161: Create document defining mappings from html elements to platform accessibility apis - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:32:04 <rubys> paulc: some of these are accessibility related
17:32:22 <rubys> janina: some of these were discussed in the TF call
17:32:47 <rubys> paulc: it would be helpful to hear an update in the next week TF report agenda item
17:32:54 <rubys> janina: will do
17:32:57 <rubys> issue-128?
17:32:57 <trackbot> ISSUE-128 -- Authors should be able to use <figure> where <img> can be used -- open
17:32:57 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/128
17:32:58 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-128: Authors should be able to use where can be used - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
17:33:21 <rubys> paulc: we attempted to call for consensus based on the withdrawl, but we received an objection, so we will revert back to the survey
17:33:37 <rubys> topic: 7. Other Business 
17:33:48 <rubys> topic: a) Status of HTML WG charter [Philippe Le Hégaret]  
17:34:14 <rubys> plh: this was talked about in TPAC.  We will do an extension of the charter, most likely next week.
17:34:27 <rubys> paulc: this is not a revision, but an extension; no change in scope
17:34:37 <rubys> paulc: any questions?
17:34:51 <rubys> topic: 8. Chair and Scribe for next meeting 
17:35:24 <rubys> rubys: I assume it would be Maciej's turn to chair
17:35:31 <rubys> paulc: any volunteers for scribing?
17:35:37 <rubys> paulc: I'll volunteer to scribe....
17:35:46 <rubys> topic: 9. Adjournment 
17:36:04 <Zakim> -adrianba
17:36:06 <Zakim> -Plh
17:36:07 <Zakim> -eliot
17:36:09 <Zakim> - +1.732.238.aabb
17:36:12 <rubys> paulc: adjourned
17:36:18 <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop me
17:36:18 <Zakim> MikeSmith is being disconnected
17:36:20 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
17:36:20 <Zakim> -Janina
17:36:20 <rubys> rrsagent, publish minutes
17:36:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/27-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
17:36:21 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
17:36:23 <Zakim> -mjs
17:36:25 <Zakim> -Sam
17:36:27 <Zakim> -Laura
17:36:48 <Zakim> -Julian
17:36:49 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
17:36:51 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.732.238.aabb, paulc, Julian, Sam, Plh, [Microsoft], eliot, adrianba, mjs, MikeSmith, +1.715.718.aadd, Laura, Janina
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18:25:32 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11890] Sometimes we need a pixel(x,y) method. createImageData(1,1) anj put it is slow. javascript is not as fast as c/c++ <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0945.html>
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19:25:48 <pimpbot> changes: sam: Issue 144 change proposal (and review comments) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2011Jan/0149.html>
19:25:49 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11699] When calling input.focus(), should (a) the cursor be at the start, (b) the cursor be at the end or (c) the contents be selected? Please define <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0948.html> 4** "[Bug 11887] Remove useless input.valueAsNumber. Pretty much the same functionality can be achieved using parseFloat or parseInt" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzil
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19:55:57 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11895] Make Downloads more reliable by specifying checksums <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0951.html> 4** [Bug 11896] New: html-letter.pdf appears truncated <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0950.html> 4** [Bug 11895] New: Make Downloads more reliable by specifying checksums <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0949.html>
20:44:09 <pimpbot> planet: Surfin&rsquo; Safari: Layout Tests: Theory <11http://webkit.org/blog/1452/layout-tests-theory/>
20:56:13 <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11895] Make Downloads more reliable by specifying checksums" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0952.html>
21:26:20 <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 11895] Make Downloads more reliable by specifying checksums" (3 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0953.html>
22:26:36 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9965] White space in attributes - please justify why multiple spaces/linebreaks are problematic - or delete this requirement <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0954.html>
22:44:40 <pimpbot> planet: Julie Choi: Your Game On Finalists: 35 Great Open Web Games <11http://mozillalabs.com/gaming/2011/01/27/your-game-on-finalists-35-great-open-web-games/>
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23:56:58 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 11890] Sometimes we need a pixel(x,y) method. createImageData(1,1) anj put it is slow. javascript is not as fast as c/c++ <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2011Jan/0955.html>