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18:20:31 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:20:31 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start in 40 minutes
18:20:32 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
18:20:32 <trackbot> Date: 26 January 2011
18:20:42 <shepazu> Zakim, room for 3?
18:20:43 <Zakim> ok, shepazu; conference Team_(webapps)18:20Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1920Z
18:20:49 <smaug_> jrossi: FYI, the reason for the possible change in wheel events is because Win7 supports "high resolution" scrolling 
18:21:08 <shepazu> Zakim: call, shepazu 
18:21:09 <smaug_> and what Windows gives to UA, doesn't exactly map to pixels
18:21:17 <smaug_> ...I've been told
18:21:25 <shepazu> zakim, call shepazu 
18:21:25 <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
18:21:26 <Zakim> Team_(webapps)18:20Z has now started
18:21:27 <Zakim> +Shepazu
18:21:52 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
18:22:08 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:22:28 <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
18:22:28 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
18:35:50 <shepazu> scribenick: jrossi 
18:36:38 <jrossi> smaug_:  the wheel delta should be double or float
18:37:00 <jrossi> travis: for fractional pages/lines
18:37:51 <jrossi> travis: float would be better, doubles are a bit big
18:38:05 <jrossi> jrossi: agreed
18:38:15 <jrossi> smaug_:  float is fine
18:40:52 <jrossi> RESOLUTION: change deltaX, deltaY, deltaZ to float for WheelEvent
18:41:04 <jrossi> shepazu:  ok, done
18:41:32 <jrossi> smaug_:  for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
18:41:43 <jrossi> topic: mutation events replacement
18:41:47 <jrossi> smaug_:  for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
18:41:51 <shepazu> s/zakim, call shepazu/Topic: wheel events/
18:42:18 <jrossi> jross: agreed, it's a shortfall of his proposal....but I think his proposal could be improved to support it
18:44:50 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Selector-based_Mutation_Events
18:45:06 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/MutationReplacement
18:45:43 <jrossi> jrossi: doesn't have resig's proposal on there
18:45:48 <jrossi> shepazu: we should add that
18:48:30 <smaug_> https://github.com/jeresig/nodelist
18:52:18 <jrossi> smaug_:  we should all read these proposals and talk about this next week
18:53:34 <jrossi> shepazu: this is not really dom 3 events, so we should move forward with a replacement but perhaps in a different conf
18:53:48 <jrossi> jrossi: i'll send out mail to get the conversation started
18:55:56 <jrossi> topics: dom 3 events issues
18:56:03 <jrossi> topic: dom 3 events issues
18:56:16 <shepazu> ISSUE-121?
18:56:16 <trackbot> ISSUE-121 -- Consider generalizing the 'textInput' event to cover all user-initiated changes -- open
18:56:16 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/121
18:56:28 <shepazu> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
18:56:42 <jrossi> jrossi: i'll mail out the updates we should make to the issues
18:57:44 <shepazu> ISSUE-122?
18:57:44 <trackbot> ISSUE-122 -- Consider adding 'mousewheel' again -- open
18:57:44 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/122
18:58:04 <jrossi> shepazu: does anyone want to add mousewheel again?
18:58:09 <jrossi> jrossi: no
18:58:16 <jrossi> smaug_: no
18:58:29 <jrossi> RESOLUTION:  we will not add mousewheel back
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19:26:17 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
19:26:20 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
19:26:21 <Zakim> -Shepazu
19:26:23 <Zakim> Team_(webapps)18:20Z has ended
19:26:24 <Zakim> Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
19:26:34 <shepazu> trackbot, end telcon
19:26:34 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
19:26:34 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
19:26:35 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:26:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
19:26:36 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
19:26:36 <RRSAgent> I see no action items