IRC log of webapps on 2011-01-26

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18:20:27 [RRSAgent]
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18:20:29 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, make logs public
18:20:29 [Zakim]
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18:20:31 [trackbot]
Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:20:31 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot; I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM scheduled to start in 40 minutes
18:20:32 [trackbot]
Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 26 January 2011
18:20:42 [shepazu]
Zakim, room for 3?
18:20:43 [Zakim]
ok, shepazu; conference Team_(webapps)18:20Z scheduled with code 26631 (CONF1) for 60 minutes until 1920Z
18:20:49 [smaug_]
jrossi: FYI, the reason for the possible change in wheel events is because Win7 supports "high resolution" scrolling
18:21:08 [shepazu]
Zakim: call, shepazu
18:21:09 [smaug_]
and what Windows gives to UA, doesn't exactly map to pixels
18:21:17 [smaug_]
...I've been told
18:21:25 [shepazu]
zakim, call shepazu
18:21:25 [Zakim]
ok, shepazu; the call is being made
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Team_(webapps)18:20Z has now started
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+Shepazu
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+[Microsoft]
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+[IPcaller]
18:22:28 [smaug_]
Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
18:22:28 [Zakim]
+Olli_Pettay; got it
18:35:50 [shepazu]
scribenick: jrossi
18:36:38 [jrossi]
smaug_: the wheel delta should be double or float
18:37:00 [jrossi]
travis: for fractional pages/lines
18:37:51 [jrossi]
travis: float would be better, doubles are a bit big
18:38:05 [jrossi]
jrossi: agreed
18:38:15 [jrossi]
smaug_: float is fine
18:40:52 [jrossi]
RESOLUTION: change deltaX, deltaY, deltaZ to float for WheelEvent
18:41:04 [jrossi]
shepazu: ok, done
18:41:32 [jrossi]
smaug_: for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
18:41:43 [jrossi]
topic: mutation events replacement
18:41:47 [jrossi]
smaug_: for mutation events replacement, jresig's proposal doesn't handle the most important event DOMCharacterDataModified
18:41:51 [shepazu]
s/zakim, call shepazu/Topic: wheel events/
18:42:18 [jrossi]
jross: agreed, it's a shortfall of his proposal....but I think his proposal could be improved to support it
18:44:50 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/Selector-based_Mutation_Events
18:45:06 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/wiki/MutationReplacement
18:45:43 [jrossi]
jrossi: doesn't have resig's proposal on there
18:45:48 [jrossi]
shepazu: we should add that
18:48:30 [smaug_]
https://github.com/jeresig/nodelist
18:52:18 [jrossi]
smaug_: we should all read these proposals and talk about this next week
18:53:34 [jrossi]
shepazu: this is not really dom 3 events, so we should move forward with a replacement but perhaps in a different conf
18:53:48 [jrossi]
jrossi: i'll send out mail to get the conversation started
18:55:56 [jrossi]
topics: dom 3 events issues
18:56:03 [jrossi]
topic: dom 3 events issues
18:56:16 [shepazu]
ISSUE-121?
18:56:16 [trackbot]
ISSUE-121 -- Consider generalizing the 'textInput' event to cover all user-initiated changes -- open
18:56:16 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/121
18:56:28 [shepazu]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/products/2
18:56:42 [jrossi]
jrossi: i'll mail out the updates we should make to the issues
18:57:44 [shepazu]
ISSUE-122?
18:57:44 [trackbot]
ISSUE-122 -- Consider adding 'mousewheel' again -- open
18:57:44 [trackbot]
http://www.w3.org/2008/webapps/track/issues/122
18:58:04 [jrossi]
shepazu: does anyone want to add mousewheel again?
18:58:09 [jrossi]
jrossi: no
18:58:16 [jrossi]
smaug_: no
18:58:29 [jrossi]
RESOLUTION: we will not add mousewheel back
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19:26:17 [Zakim]
-[Microsoft]
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-Olli_Pettay
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-Shepazu
19:26:23 [Zakim]
Team_(webapps)18:20Z has ended
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Attendees were Shepazu, [Microsoft], Olli_Pettay
19:26:34 [shepazu]
trackbot, end telcon
19:26:34 [trackbot]
Zakim, list attendees
19:26:34 [Zakim]
sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
19:26:35 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/26-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
19:26:36 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
19:26:36 [RRSAgent]
I see no action items