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16:58:33 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
16:58:35 <mhausenblas> hu?
16:58:35 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 7322733
16:58:35 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
16:58:36 <trackbot> Meeting: RDB2RDF Working Group Teleconference
16:58:36 <trackbot> Date: 18 January 2011
16:58:45 <betehess> agenda?
16:58:52 <mhausenblas> trackbot, please start conf
16:58:52 <trackbot> Sorry, mhausenblas, I don't understand 'trackbot, please start conf'. Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2005/06/tracker/irc for help
16:59:51 <soeren> soeren has joined #RDB2RDF
17:00:18 <betehess> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:00:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html betehess
17:00:38 <Zakim> +mhausenblas
17:00:49 <cygri> cygri has joined #rdb2rdf
17:01:06 <Zakim> + +1.662.000.aacc
17:01:07 <Zakim> +Alexandre
17:01:07 <Zakim> +??P30
17:01:14 <cygri> zakim, i am with mhausenblas
17:01:14 <Zakim> +cygri; got it
17:01:39 <nyoung> I'm gonna hang up my phone and listen at David's desk
17:01:40 <privera> Zakim, mute me
17:01:40 <Zakim> sorry, privera, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
17:01:44 <Zakim> -nyoung
17:01:52 <mhausenblas> regrets+ ericP 
17:02:01 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Ashok
17:02:21 <Zakim> - +1.662.000.aacc
17:02:24 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Ivan Herman
17:02:55 <Zakim> + +25430004aadd
17:03:03 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Marcelo
17:03:14 <cygri> zakim, aadd is soeren
17:03:14 <Zakim> +soeren; got it
17:03:15 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Souri
17:03:23 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Seema
17:03:23 <dmcneil> dmcneil has joined #RDB2RDF
17:03:43 <mhausenblas> regrets+ Harry
17:03:51 <betehess> Zakim, aadd is soeren 
17:03:51 <Zakim> sorry, betehess, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd'
17:03:53 <nunolopes> nunolopes has joined #RDB2RDF
17:04:01 <betehess> Zakim, +25430004aadd is soeren 
17:04:01 <Zakim> sorry, betehess, I do not recognize a party named '+25430004aadd'
17:04:05 <betehess> Zakim, 25430004aadd is soeren 
17:04:05 <Zakim> sorry, betehess, I do not recognize a party named '25430004aadd'
17:04:20 <privera> I'm 1.662...  betehess
17:04:21 <mhausenblas> Zakim, who's here?
17:04:21 <Zakim> On the phone I see juansequeda, +1.314.394.aabb, boris, mhausenblas, Alexandre, ??P30, soeren
17:04:23 <Zakim> mhausenblas has cygri
17:04:24 <nateyoung> nateyoung has joined #rdb2rdf
17:04:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see nunolopes, dmcneil, cygri, soeren, RRSAgent, privera, Zakim, nyoung, MacTed, juansequeda, LeeF, mhausenblas, betehess, iv_an_ru, trackbot, ericP
17:04:26 <boris> boris has joined #rdb2rdf
17:04:30 <nunolopes> Zakim, nunolopes is with mhausenblas
17:04:30 <Zakim> +nunolopes; got it
17:05:24 <betehess> agenda?
17:05:30 <betehess> scribe: betehess
17:05:38 <betehess> chair: mhausenblas 
17:05:43 <boris> boris has joined #rdb2rdf
17:05:48 <betehess> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:05:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html betehess
17:05:58 <betehess> Zakim, next agenda
17:05:58 <Zakim> agendum 1. "admin: Accept the minutes of last meeting" taken up [from betehess]
17:06:08 <betehess> PROPOSAL: Accept the minutes of last meeting, see
17:06:12 <boris> +1
17:06:21 <betehess> s/last meeting, see/last meeting/
17:06:23 <betehess> +1
17:06:35 <betehess> RESOLUTION: PROPOSAL accepted
17:06:39 <betehess> Zakim, next agenda
17:06:39 <Zakim> agendum 1 was just opened, betehess
17:06:41 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91
17:06:47 <mhausenblas> ACTION-91?
17:06:47 <trackbot> ACTION-91 -- Michael Hausenblas to move accepted TC from wiki to http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/test-cases/ -- due 2011-01-25 -- OPEN
17:06:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/91
17:06:55 <betehess> Zakim, take next agenda item
17:06:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take next agenda item', betehess
17:07:01 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:07:01 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Review of R2RML Test Cases" taken up [from betehess]
17:07:06 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1
17:07:18 <betehess> boris, I just updated the wiki page
17:07:28 <boris> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/R2RML_Test_Cases_v1
17:07:40 <boris> https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/rdb2rdf-tests/
17:07:41 <betehess> ... Eric, betehess and I set up a repository to store the files related to the test cases
17:07:48 <mhausenblas> Michael: suggest to create a new page http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/wiki/TestCases and have only the protocol there
17:07:55 <betehess> q+ to comment quickly on the repository
17:08:10 <betehess> mhausenblas: great job
17:08:21 <betehess> ... you might want to create a new page
17:08:51 <mhausenblas> ack betehess 
17:08:51 <Zakim> betehess, you wanted to comment quickly on the repository
17:09:38 <betehess> betehess: the repository is write-enabled for this WG
17:10:16 <betehess> mhausenblas: boris, please describe the architecture
17:10:20 <mhausenblas> ACTION-81?
17:10:20 <trackbot> ACTION-81 -- Juan Sequeda to and Eric to draft Direct Mapping TC -- due 2011-01-25 -- OPEN
17:10:20 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/81
17:10:43 <betehess> boris: 81 is still opend
17:10:53 <betehess> s/opend/opened/
17:11:05 <boris_> boris_ has joined #rdb2rdf
17:11:08 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:11:08 <Zakim> agendum 3. "R2RML status" taken up [from betehess]
17:11:22 <betehess> mhausenblas, richard has 5 actions :-)
17:11:33 <betehess> richard: no update for me
17:11:46 <betehess> mhausenblas: any comment?
17:12:00 <betehess> richard: I have a file ready to be turned of into issues
17:12:09 <betehess> ... will do whenever I have time
17:12:18 <betehess> mhausenblas: any other comments?
17:12:39 <betehess> @@: I have an issue with escaping the { }
17:12:40 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0019.html
17:13:12 <nateyoung> that was David McNeil from Revelytix
17:13:12 <betehess> ... the document has not addressed that at the moment
17:13:25 <betehess> ... we had a problem during the implementation
17:13:29 <nateyoung> he's on the phone, I'm on the IRC :)
17:13:34 <betehess> s/@@/dmcneil/
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17:14:03 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:14:03 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Direct Mapping status" taken up [from betehess]
17:14:21 <betehess> juansequeda: we should go back on track this week
17:14:36 <betehess> ... I believe that MacTed had to do a review
17:14:46 <betehess> mhausenblas: he is not around
17:14:55 <betehess> ... but any progress?
17:15:03 <betehess> juansequeda: hopefully next week
17:15:14 <betehess> mhausenblas: questions for all the editors
17:15:28 <betehess> ... I quite often go through the ML
17:15:33 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2010Nov/0086.html
17:15:49 <betehess> ... here is a link to a discussion between ericP, betehess, you...
17:15:58 <betehess> ... regarding set vs multiset
17:16:09 <betehess> ... I'm not that deep in what in means
17:16:29 <betehess> ... but I'd like to understand if this needs an issue for that
17:16:47 <betehess> juansequeda: not sure if that need a issue
17:16:55 <betehess> ... I'll look at that that
17:17:01 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/
17:17:10 <betehess> ... ok to check an action on this issue
17:17:37 <betehess> mhausenblas: ok to split in many issues
17:17:46 <betehess> ... and one on the multiset issue
17:17:56 <betehess> ... so we can speak about that next week
17:18:08 <betehess> q+
17:18:24 <mhausenblas> ack betehess 
17:19:07 <betehess> betehess: please use the ML so we can help you :-)
17:19:30 <betehess> ... especially because ericP and I initiated the thread
17:19:35 <betehess> juansequeda: will do
17:19:46 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-X
17:19:55 <betehess> mhausenblas: please remember to include the issue number in ML threads
17:20:49 <betehess> ... actuallym whenever we talk about an issue, like IRC
17:20:59 <betehess> s/actuallym/actually/
17:21:17 <betehess> mhausenblas: there might be another action item
17:21:24 <betehess> agenda+ Linked data issues
17:21:26 <mhausenblas> ACTION-89?
17:21:26 <trackbot> ACTION-89 -- Michael Hausenblas to create a Linked Data issue and draft proposal to address -- due 2011-01-25 -- OPEN
17:21:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/actions/89
17:21:28 <betehess> agenda?
17:21:43 <betehess> mhausenblas: that was part of one of my actions
17:21:56 <mhausenblas> ISSUE-7?
17:21:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-7 -- Linked Data aspects for mapping RDB2RDF -- raised
17:21:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues/7
17:22:04 <betehess> ... on ISSUE-7
17:22:06 <mhausenblas> http://www.w3.org/2001/sw/rdb2rdf/track/issues
17:22:37 <betehess> ... I would like to formally propose to open this issue
17:22:43 <mhausenblas> close ACTION-89
17:22:43 <trackbot> ACTION-89 Create a Linked Data issue and draft proposal to address closed
17:23:15 <betehess> ... so the WG can acknoledge officially this issue
17:23:46 <mhausenblas> PROPOSAL: To accept the ISSUE-7
17:23:51 <betehess> +1
17:24:14 <juansequeda> +1
17:24:40 <cygri> +1
17:24:43 <betehess> mhausenblas: maybe someone want to take over?
17:25:39 <betehess> RESOLUTION: the WG accepts the ISSUE-7
17:25:42 <betehess> agenda?
17:25:57 <betehess> Zakim, pick item 6
17:25:57 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick item 6', betehess
17:26:01 <betehess> Zakim, pick agenda item 6
17:26:01 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick agenda item 6', betehess
17:26:06 <betehess> Zakim, take agenda item 6
17:26:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take agenda item 6', betehess
17:26:09 <betehess> Zakim, take item 6
17:26:09 <Zakim> I don't understand 'take item 6', betehess
17:26:18 <mhausenblas> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-rdb2rdf-wg/2011Jan/0030.html
17:26:33 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:26:33 <Zakim> agendum 5. "AOB" taken up [from betehess]
17:26:34 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:26:34 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, betehess
17:26:35 <mhausenblas>  http://www.example.com/r2rml?string=Paris
17:26:36 <betehess> Zakim, next item
17:26:36 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, betehess
17:26:45 <betehess> Zakim, close item
17:26:45 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close item', betehess
17:27:17 <betehess> juansequeda: I would like to speak about hhalpin email
17:27:48 <betehess> ... we raised this topic a long time ago
17:27:56 <betehess> ... as the input will always a string
17:28:04 <betehess> ... how to deambiguite
17:28:22 <betehess> ... I'm curious to know what people think about it
17:28:29 <betehess> ... maybe a solution or an idea?
17:29:09 <betehess> mhausenblas: if you have a string, you have to make sure that these URIs match their expectation
17:29:19 <betehess> @@: I believe it's another topic
17:29:28 <betehess> ... out of the scope of this group
17:29:35 <betehess> juansequeda: I agree
17:29:45 <betehess> ... "it's your problem"
17:29:58 <betehess> mhausenblas: ok but how can we formalize that?
17:30:12 <betehess> ... as we have to come up with a solution easy enough
17:30:23 <betehess> ... like in term of expectations
17:30:55 <betehess> ... I don't know, but it's part of the challenge there
17:31:02 <betehess> ... it's in the charter
17:31:29 <betehess> @@: maybe with user defined functions that output in RDF?
17:32:36 <betehess> juansequeda: with the function call approach, you may have a problem with the reverse function needed for SPARQL for example
17:32:55 <betehess> ... if you search about a specific URI
17:33:10 <mhausenblas> Michael: I'm happy to take an action on this to review existing approaches incl. DBpedia and Uberblic lookup, Triplify way, OKKAM, etc and report on the options via the Wiki
17:33:15 <betehess> ... so it may need to work both ways
17:33:37 <betehess> mhausenblas: it makes sense that I take an action on that
17:33:51 <betehess> ... and see what people out there actually do
17:36:00 <mhausenblas> ACTION: soeren to create Wiki page with options for disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier
17:36:00 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - soeren
17:36:09 <mhausenblas> ACTION: Auer to create Wiki page with options for disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier
17:36:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-94 - Create Wiki page with options for disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [on Sören Auer - due 2011-01-25].
17:37:30 <betehess> agenda?
17:37:58 <betehess> ADJOURNED
17:37:58 <Zakim> -soeren
17:37:59 <Zakim> -mhausenblas
17:38:01 <Zakim> - +1.314.394.aabb
17:38:04 <Zakim> -juansequeda
17:38:05 <Zakim> -Alexandre
17:38:07 <betehess> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:38:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html betehess
17:38:10 <Zakim> -??P30
17:38:25 <Zakim> -boris
17:38:26 <Zakim> SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM has ended
17:38:26 <privera> privera was -??P30
17:38:27 <Zakim> Attendees were nyoung, +1.512.232.aaaa, juansequeda, +1.314.394.aabb, boris, mhausenblas, +1.662.000.aacc, Alexandre, cygri, +25430004aadd, soeren, nunolopes
17:39:14 <betehess> mhausenblas, do you take care of the cleaning?
17:39:20 <betehess> or do you want me to do it?
17:39:33 <mhausenblas> nah, that's fine, we never clean up ;)
17:39:44 <mhausenblas> just send it out like it is, ok, please?
17:40:39 <privera> privera has left #RDB2RDF
17:40:44 <mhausenblas> betehess? 
17:40:58 <betehess> yes?
17:41:00 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:41:00 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:41:15 <betehess> it was still drafted
17:41:27 <betehess> ah
17:41:32 <betehess> you or me?
17:42:12 <mhausenblas> ScribeOptions: -final -noEmbedDiagnostics
17:42:19 <mhausenblas> RRSAgent, draft minutes
17:42:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html mhausenblas
17:42:47 <betehess> looks like you're taking care of it :-)
17:43:14 <betehess> like that?
17:43:16 <betehess> ok
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17:44:10 <mhausenblas> trackbot, end telecon
17:44:10 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:44:10 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
17:44:11 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
17:44:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-minutes.html trackbot
17:44:12 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:44:12 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-actions.rdf :
17:44:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: soeren to create Wiki page with options for disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [1]
17:44:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-36-00
17:44:12 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Auer to create Wiki page with options for disambiguation interface for well-known entities identifier [2]
17:44:12 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2011/01/18-rdb2rdf-irc#T17-36-09
17:44:16 <betehess> hrmmm, I'll clean a bit before