IRC log of ws-ra on 2011-01-11

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logging to http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-ws-ra-irc
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be WSRA
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ok, trackbot; I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
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Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 11 January 2011
20:27:44 [li]
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WS_WSRA()3:30PM has now started
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+ +39.331.574.aaaa
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+Bob_Freund
20:29:09 [Bob_]
rrsagent, pointer?
20:29:09 [RRSAgent]
See http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-ws-ra-irc#T20-29-09
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+[Oracle]
20:29:55 [asoldano]
Zakim, aaaa is asoldano
20:29:56 [Zakim]
+asoldano; got it
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whoami
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+Doug_Davis
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+ +1.908.696.aabb
20:30:56 [li]
zakim, aabb is li
20:30:56 [Zakim]
+li; got it
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+Tom_Rutt
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+[Microsoft]
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+Gilbert_Pilz
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-Gilbert_Pilz
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+Gilbert_Pilz
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+Yves
20:34:07 [dug]
zakim, mute Gil
20:34:07 [Zakim]
Gilbert_Pilz should now be muted
20:34:26 [dug]
zakim, unmute Gil
20:34:26 [Zakim]
Gilbert_Pilz should no longer be muted
20:35:53 [Bob_]
scribenick: asoldano
20:36:11 [dug]
Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0033.html
20:36:19 [Bob_]
agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0033.html
20:36:27 [dug]
q+
20:36:36 [dug]
http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11696
20:36:55 [Bob_]
ack dug
20:37:06 [asoldano]
dug, can 11696 be added to agenda?
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+Ashok_Malhotra
20:38:14 [asoldano]
Bob_, ok, added to the agenda
20:38:37 [asoldano]
Bob_, agenda approved
20:38:59 [asoldano]
Bob_, minutes http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/10/12/2011-01-04.html approved
20:39:22 [asoldano]
TOPIC: next f2f meeting
20:40:09 [asoldano]
Bob_, details for logistic are posted online
20:40:44 [dug]
impls: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/testing/implementations.html
20:42:40 [asoldano]
Bob_, eventing optionality analysis:
20:43:50 [asoldano]
Zakim, who is making noise?
20:44:02 [Zakim]
asoldano, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Doug_Davis (50%), [Microsoft] (64%)
20:45:03 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
20:46:26 [dug]
zakim, who is making noise?
20:46:37 [Zakim]
dug, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Bob_Freund (43%)
20:46:55 [asoldano]
Bob_, xs:dateTime is at risk for wse:expires
20:48:23 [asoldano]
Bob_, wse:filter at risk too
20:54:50 [asoldano]
... discussions going on on wse:Reasons, which might be at risk, but it's not that a feature, is an informational element for humans ...
20:55:09 [W3C]
+1 to Tom
20:57:19 [asoldano]
Bob_, wse:Reason is not at risk
20:57:33 [asoldano]
dug, why not removing that from the list of feature that can be at risk?
20:59:36 [asoldano]
Bob_, dateTime on risk in both renew and expires
21:00:21 [li]
+q
21:00:24 [asoldano]
Bob_, Enumeration document has just one implementation
21:00:31 [Bob_]
ack li
21:03:43 [asoldano]
dug, I can check optional stuff in the spec is up2date
21:04:06 [li]
thanks dug
21:04:29 [asoldano]
dug, IBM might be able to implement enumeration
21:04:33 [Ram]
q+
21:05:10 [Bob_]
ack ram
21:05:14 [asoldano]
Bob_, there's no requirement for the specs to proceed at the same time
21:05:37 [Ram]
q+
21:05:51 [Bob_]
ack ram
21:05:51 [asoldano]
Bob_, and implementation can come from non w3c members too
21:07:24 [asoldano]
Ram, from Microsoft side, nothing would be at risk for enumeration
21:07:47 [asoldano]
Bob_, transfer:
21:08:57 [asoldano]
dug, propose removing "Support for empty resources" from doc
21:09:03 [asoldano]
Bob_, OK
21:10:11 [asoldano]
Bob_, fragment:
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Bob_, metadata exchange:
21:14:52 [asoldano]
Bob_, once we go to CR, we'll also notify what's at risk
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-Gilbert_Pilz
21:16:43 [dug]
q+
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+Gilbert_Pilz
21:17:21 [Bob_]
ack dug
21:18:16 [Tom_Rutt]
q+
21:18:34 [Bob_]
ack tom
21:20:34 [asoldano]
TOPIC 11696
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http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11696
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2011Jan/0020.html
21:22:28 [asoldano]
dug, this to be solved by having enumeration match evening
21:22:41 [asoldano]
Bob_, resolved as proposed
21:23:46 [asoldano]
Bob_, woirking group agrees on incorporation of resolved issues
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s/woirking/working
21:24:15 [asoldano]
Bob_, any objection to progress all specs to CR?
21:24:20 [asoldano]
Bob_, no objection
21:25:17 [asoldano]
RESOLUTION: all specs can progress to CR
21:25:43 [Ram]
q+
21:25:56 [Bob_]
ack ram
21:26:07 [dug]
q+
21:26:18 [Bob_]
ack dug
21:27:37 [asoldano]
dug, what about adding variations/sub-scenarios to the test scenarios?
21:27:54 [Katy]
I need to drop off the call early, bye
21:28:20 [Zakim]
-[IPcaller]
21:30:56 [asoldano]
Bob_, propose to just focus on tests now
21:34:11 [asoldano]
Bob_, that's all for today
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Bob_, next meeting at demand basis
21:35:05 [Zakim]
-Tom_Rutt
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-Gilbert_Pilz
21:35:09 [asoldano]
Bob_, next meeting 25th
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-[Oracle]
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-Yves
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-Bob_Freund
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-[Microsoft]
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-li
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-Doug_Davis
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-Ashok_Malhotra
21:35:20 [Bob_]
rrsagent, generate minutes
21:35:20 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2011/01/11-ws-ra-minutes.html Bob_
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-asoldano
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WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
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Attendees were +39.331.574.aaaa, Bob_Freund, [Oracle], asoldano, Doug_Davis, +1.908.696.aabb, li, Tom_Rutt, [Microsoft], Gilbert_Pilz, Yves, Ashok_Malhotra, [IPcaller]
21:36:29 [asoldano]
Bob_, http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/chair-tools/attendance.html is broken in the 2 column of distributed meeting (just FYI)
21:37:21 [Bob_]
where is it broken?
21:37:30 [Bob_]
ok, I see
21:37:34 [Bob_]
thanks
21:37:36 [Bob_]
-bob
21:37:36 [asoldano]
;)
21:39:18 [Bob_]
better?
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21:47:14 [dug]
bob?