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20:32:05 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WSRA
20:32:05 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see WS_WSRA()3:30PM already started
20:32:06 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Services Resource Access Working Group Teleconference
20:32:06 <trackbot> Date: 14 December 2010
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20:33:23 <Zakim> + +39.331.574.aabb
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20:33:51 <Zakim> +Yves
20:33:59 <asoldano> Zakim aabb is asoldano
20:34:07 <Dave> Hi Dialing in shortly
20:34:19 <Anish> s/no/now/
20:34:32 <asoldano> zakim, aabb is asoldano
20:34:32 <Zakim> +asoldano; got it
20:35:30 <BobF> scribenick: asoldano
20:35:36 <asoldano> zakim, mute asoldano
20:35:36 <Zakim> asoldano should now be muted
20:35:41 <BobF> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Dec/0020.html
20:35:51 <Anish> q+
20:36:00 <asoldano> TOPIC: approval of agenda
20:36:16 <BobF> ack ani
20:36:29 <Dave> I'm being refused on the bridge. Will keep trying.
20:36:50 <Anish> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Dec/att-0003/00-part
20:37:03 <BobF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Dec/0003.html
20:37:26 <dug> q+
20:37:38 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:37:46 <dug> q-
20:37:47 <Dave> I'm in now
20:38:09 <asoldano> BobF, let's add the one above to the agenda
20:38:47 <asoldano> BobF, opening issue 11551 as new issue
20:40:05 <asoldano> BobF, december message n.3 will be reflected in a new issue
20:40:25 <asoldano> BobF, minutes of Nov 16th are approved
20:41:00 <asoldano> BobF, primers are listed in agenda and available for review
20:41:14 <dug> q+
20:41:24 <asoldano> BobF, everybody take a look at them by the next call
20:41:26 <dug> q-
20:41:37 <asoldano> dug, when is next call?
20:41:53 <asoldano> BobF, we might be able to hold the next call in 1-2 weeks
20:42:19 <asoldano> many of us are leaving for vacations till end of year
20:42:33 <asoldano> BobF, next meeting will be Jan 4th
20:43:05 <asoldano> BobF, please review the primers
20:43:14 <asoldano> TOPIC attendance to the f2f
20:44:15 <asoldano> BobF, will be there
20:44:18 <Dave> I will not be there.
20:44:23 <asoldano> someone from IBM will be there
20:44:34 <asoldano> BobF, Gil will be there
20:44:54 <asoldano> Ram, possible to have the call a week after?
20:48:39 <asoldano> there will be someone from Microsoft at the f2f
20:48:46 <asoldano> 1 or 2 also from Avaya
20:49:11 <asoldano> probably none from Fujitsu
20:50:04 <asoldano> TOPIC test scenarios
20:50:13 <asoldano> http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/ra/edcopies/scenario.html
20:52:02 <Anish> dug, so this doc will contain tests for all 7 specs?
20:52:07 <dug> yes
20:52:11 <Anish> ok, thx
20:52:17 <dug> in separate sections
20:54:07 <dug> q+
20:54:18 <BobF> ack dug
20:54:44 <asoldano> dug, can we use bugzilla for tracking the issue with test scenario?
20:54:56 <asoldano> Yves, fine
20:56:03 <asoldano> TOPIC http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11551
20:59:05 <dug> thanks yves
20:59:24 <dug> q+
21:00:12 <BobF> ack dug
21:01:16 <dug> q+
21:01:55 <BobF> ack next
21:02:41 <Anish> <absolute-URI>#name
21:03:18 <Yves> fragment    = *( pchar / "/" / "?" )
21:03:19 <Yves> pchar         = unreserved / pct-encoded / sub-delims / ":" / "@"
21:04:22 <asoldano> BobF, first part: accepting the proposal to use a new mimetype for event type description
21:05:20 <asoldano> BobF, 2nd part: we'll define a frag identifier
21:05:47 <asoldano> BobF, Gil is producing a draft for this
21:06:10 <asoldano> TOPIC http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11189
21:06:11 <Katy> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Nov/0022.html
21:06:20 <Katy> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=11189
21:06:33 <dug> the marked up text:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Nov/att-0022/Issue11189_GetMetadataUpdates.htm
21:10:42 <Dave> Dropping a few minutes early. Have a Happy Holiday season everyone!
21:10:49 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
21:11:09 <asoldano> BobF, issue solved as proposed
21:12:06 <dug> q+
21:12:19 <BobF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Dec/0003.html
21:12:19 <asoldano> TOPIC issue by Gil
21:12:20 <Tom_Rutt> q+
21:12:29 <BobF> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-ws-resource-access/2010Dec/0003.html
21:12:39 <BobF> ack next
21:13:38 <asoldano> dug, we should support both wrapped and uwrapped
21:13:41 <BobF> ack tom
21:14:05 <asoldano> Tom_Rutt, picking just one of them is dangerous
21:14:12 <Ashok> q+
21:14:37 <Ram> q+
21:14:47 <BobF> ack ash
21:14:58 <asoldano> Ashok, can we postpone this topic?
21:15:09 <asoldano> ... we need time to think about this
21:15:14 <BobF> ack ram
21:15:33 <asoldano> Ram, leave as it is now
21:15:48 <Anish> q+
21:16:02 <BobF> ack ani
21:16:30 <dug> I'd like to hear from Avaya
21:17:41 <asoldano> BobF, let's try to get to an internal agreement by Jan 4th
21:19:55 <asoldano> BobF, we should require unanimous agreement to open new issues from now on
21:20:42 <asoldano> BobF, we going to  issue freeze
21:20:50 <dug> q+
21:22:00 <asoldano> dug, can we file issues even if they're not worked till CR ?
21:22:02 <asoldano> BobF, yes
21:22:34 <asoldano> BobF, so it's issue freeze till we get to CR
21:23:02 <asoldano> BobF, thanks for the contribution, listen to you on Jan 2011
21:23:10 <Zakim> -Tom_Rutt
21:23:12 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
21:23:13 <Zakim> -Anish_Karmarkar
21:23:15 <Zakim> -Doug_Davis
21:23:16 <Zakim> - +44.196.281.aaaa
21:23:16 <Zakim> -Bob_Freund
21:23:18 <Zakim> -Ashok_Malhotra
21:23:18 <Zakim> -asoldano
21:23:20 <Zakim> -Yves
21:23:28 <BobF> rrsagent, make minutes
21:23:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/12/14-ws-ra-minutes.html BobF
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21:26:13 <gpilz> greetings from 30,000 feet
21:26:39 <gpilz> shoot
21:26:52 <gpilz> what, if anything, was decided?
21:26:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/12/14-ws-ra-minutes.html Yves
21:28:57 <gpilz> so I noticed
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21:43:56 <Zakim> WS_WSRA()3:30PM has ended
21:43:58 <Zakim> Attendees were Doug_Davis, [Microsoft], Bob_Freund, +44.196.281.aaaa, Ashok_Malhotra, Tom_Rutt, Anish_Karmarkar, Wu_Chou, +39.331.574.aabb, Yves, asoldano, [IPcaller]