IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-12-07

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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be SJMS
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ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
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Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 07 December 2010
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WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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trackbot, start telcon
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be SJMS
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Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start now
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Date: 07 December 2010
17:00:26 [alewis]
17:00:32 [alewis]
we'd already started.
17:00:48 [mphillip]
oops sorry
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doesn't seem to have caused problems, though.
17:01:25 [mphillip]
no, phew, good old trackbot
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+ +1.781.280.aaaa
17:03:31 [eric]
Zakim, who is here?
17:03:32 [Zakim]
On the phone I see alewis, Mark, eric, +1.781.280.aaaa
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On IRC I see eric, peaston, mphillip, Zakim, RRSAgent, alewis, trackbot, Yves
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17:06:34 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe
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Chair: Eric
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Scribe: Mark
17:07:01 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes
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17:07:24 [mphillip]
Minutes approved
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TOPIC: Review the agenda
17:08:01 [mphillip]
No modifications to agenda
17:08:15 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Administrative items
17:08:32 [mphillip]
Eric: Propose we skip meeting of 28th
17:09:14 [mphillip]
No objections
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RESOLUTION: No meeting on 28th Dec.
17:09:39 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Review action items
17:09:49 [mphillip] - Derek - no status
17:09:59 [mphillip] - Phil - no progress
17:10:19 [mphillip]
Phil: Planning to work on this over Christmas period
17:10:39 [mphillip] - Mark - no progress
17:10:56 [mphillip] - Mark - complete
17:11:02 [mphillip]
close action-230
17:11:02 [trackbot]
ACTION-230 Apply the changes for ISSUE-67 closed
17:11:14 [mphillip]
close action-231
17:11:14 [trackbot]
ACTION-231 Come up with a concrete proposal to resolve issue 68 closed
17:12:04 [mphillip] - Eric - Complete
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close action-232
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ACTION-232 Revise the proposal with Amy's addition and the fault in the proposal closed
17:12:35 [mphillip]
(see: )
17:12:54 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Moving to PR (via CR? & LC)
17:13:43 [mphillip]
Eric:Any issues, comments & concerns regarding producing a conforming implementation
17:14:24 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Specification Issues
17:14:43 [mphillip]
17:15:16 [mphillip]
See Eric's email (link above WRT action 232)
17:15:54 [mphillip]
Eric: made modifications to proposal noted in previous meeting
17:17:17 [mphillip]
Peter: Contacted CXF who want this feature, so this is a welcome & timely addition
17:17:55 [mphillip]
Eric: Should we wait for CXF to review this proposal before changing the spec.
17:18:45 [mphillip]
Sounds like a good idea if we think there are people who will review the proposal
17:19:50 [mphillip]
All: No objection to waiting a week for comments from CXF
17:20:19 [mphillip]
action: Peter to forward proposal for ISSUE-65 to CXF folk for their approval
17:20:19 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-233 - Forward proposal for ISSUE-65 to CXF folk for their approval [on Peter Easton - due 2010-12-14].
17:20:43 [mphillip]
Next issue :
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Peter: These changes have been applied
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17:23:02 [mphillip]
Peter: Have added Test0020 to cover Protocol-2070
17:23:08 [mphillip]
17:24:23 [mphillip]
Peter: This is an optional test for the queue variant (topicReplyToName)
17:27:08 [mphillip]
Eric: Would it be worth mentioning in the text for the test that this would involve vendor-specific use of the API to specify the destination name (passed to the Session.createQueue )
17:27:37 [mphillip]
(and Session.createTopic)
17:28:46 [mphillip]
Eric: Probably unnecessary to spell this out - the test will all require some tweaks / JNDI setup to get them running
17:29:41 [mphillip]
Peter: The other change is to add references to WSDLUsage3003, WSDLUsage3004 in WSDL tests test0006 test0007 test0009 test0010 test0013 test0014 test0015 test0016
17:30:15 [mphillip]
RESOLUTION: The applied resolution is accepted - ISSUE-66 is closed
17:30:27 [mphillip]
17:30:44 [eric]
Mark's latest email:
17:33:09 [mphillip]
Mark: Proposal to set heaer properties on the producer instead of the message
17:34:16 [mphillip]
RESOLUTION: The new proposal is accepted as-is
17:34:35 [mphillip]
action Mark: to apply the resolution for ISSUE-68
17:34:35 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-234 - Apply the resolution for ISSUE-68 [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-12-14].
17:35:16 [mphillip] - pending application of resolution per ACTION-230
17:35:23 [mphillip]
TOPIC: URI scheme
17:36:12 [mphillip]
Eric: Posted new draft with language to register IANA JMS URI scheme variants
17:36:21 [mphillip]
Eric: Review came back with 3 comments
17:38:11 [mphillip]
Eric: One on the formatting - caused by conversion to text , one because the URI examples were not indented - so Eric has indented the samples
17:38:35 [mphillip]
Eric: We should now be ready to submit for final review
17:39:25 [mphillip]
Eric: Contacted various open-source implementations of JMS to bring the JMS URI to their attention (ActiveMQ, QPID), plus Oracle
17:39:33 [mphillip]
Eric: No feedback to date
17:41:41 [mphillip]
Eric: Draft 10 is the latest draft - will chase up IETF later today
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17:46:48 [mphillip]
Mark: Potential issue with BytesMessage being written and read in different ways (e.g. writeBytes, and readUTF)
17:47:41 [mphillip]
Mark: Will send details to the list
17:49:18 [mphillip]
Eric: Yes, we nned to understand the scope of the possible change to the spec. e.g. normative, non-normative, FAQ etc.
17:49:34 [mphillip]
action mark to get details of potential BytesMessageproblem
17:49:34 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-235 - Get details of potential BytesMessageproblem [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-12-14].
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WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended
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Attendees were alewis, Mark, eric, +1.781.280.aaaa, padams
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I have made the request to generate mphillip
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