10:04:26 RRSAgent has joined #mediafrag 10:04:26 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/11/24-mediafrag-irc 10:04:28 RRSAgent, make logs public 10:04:28 Zakim has joined #mediafrag 10:04:31 Zakim, this will be IA_MFWG 10:04:31 ok, trackbot; I see IA_MFWG()5:00AM scheduled to start 4 minutes ago 10:04:32 Meeting: Media Fragments Working Group Teleconference 10:04:32 Date: 24 November 2010 10:05:37 IA_MFWG()5:00AM has now started 10:05:44 +tomayac 10:06:02 +Yves 10:08:33 +Raphael 10:08:45 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/24-mediafrag-minutes.html raphael 10:09:48 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-fragment/2010Nov/0033.html 10:09:58 Regrets: davy, eric 10:10:19 Present: Yves, Raphael, Thomas, Silvia, Philip (irc) 10:10:54 Chair: Raphael 10:10:57 Scribe: Raphael 10:11:00 scribenick: raphael 10:11:05 Topic: 1. Admin 10:12:25 +1 10:12:27 Propose to accept the minutes of last telecon: http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-mediafrag-minutes.html 10:12:29 +1 10:12:32 +1 10:12:39 minutes accepted 10:12:40 +1 10:12:45 ACTION-183? 10:12:45 ACTION-183 -- Raphaƫl Troncy to send reminders to all relevant groups -- due 2010-09-15 -- OPEN 10:12:45 http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Fragments/tracker/actions/183 10:12:55 close ACTION-183 10:12:55 ACTION-183 Send reminders to all relevant groups closed 10:13:47 Raphael: I did send an email to whatwg and html5 10:13:57 ... but the mail to the html5 mailing list didn't get through 10:14:02 ... subscription problem 10:14:15 Silvia, could you please forward my email to the HTML5 mailing list? 10:14:34 oh, did it not go through? 10:14:38 will do 10:15:00 ... I have also contacted Chris Double, Frank Olivier and Eric Carlson to get more reviews 10:15:11 homata has joined #mediafrag 10:15:15 ... and the CSS working group regarding the bug http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 10:15:29 No, silvia, my mail went through the whatwg mailing list but NOT the html5 one 10:15:45 ok 10:15:52 Topic: Discuss HTML5 bug 10:16:01 See: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10723 10:16:38 Question is what we should do since this bug has been closed by Ian 10:17:07 If he's wrong, we should explain why. 10:17:41 I think we need to propose an actual spec change 10:18:38 That will also do fine 10:18:55 then there is something to discuss 10:19:19 Yves: for images, if the cropping is the default rendering behavior, it should be specified in our spec 10:20:10 ... for video and audio, since there is more controls from the HTML5 spec, if the default behavior is highlighting, then it could be specified in HTML5 10:20:32 (for time dimension) 10:20:54 text about controls: http://www.whatwg.org/specs/web-apps/current-work/multipage/video.html#attr-media-controls 10:21:10 Yves: silvia, is there in html5, something that says how external controls are displayed for video? 10:21:20 media-controls should know how to interact with a fragment 10:21:22 Silvia: there is only recommendations 10:22:38 Yes, I agree - there should be recommendations on what to display for a