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14:43:48 <antoine> rrsagent, bookmark
14:43:48 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-irc#T14-43-48
14:44:16 <antoine> test
14:44:40 <antoine> zakim, this will be lld
14:44:40 <Zakim> ok, antoine; I see INC_LLDXG()10:00AM scheduled to start in 16 minutes
14:44:52 <antoine> Meeting:   LLD XG
14:45:04 <antoine> Chair: Antoine
14:45:21 <antoine> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Nov/0084.html
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14:46:25 <antoine> Previous: 2010-11-11 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/11/11-lld-minutes.html
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14:47:42 <antoine> Regrets: Gordon, Felix, Karen, Oreste, Monica, Lars
14:48:08 <antoine> rrsagent, please make record public
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14:51:38 <antoine> regrets+ Bernard
14:51:44 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:51:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html antoine
14:53:13 <antoine> Scribe: Anette
14:53:20 <antoine> Scribenick: AnetteS
14:55:06 <Zakim> INC_LLDXG()10:00AM has now started
14:55:13 <Zakim> +??P3
14:55:25 <antoine> zakim, ??P3 is me
14:55:25 <Zakim> +antoine; got it
14:55:47 <AnetteS> AnetteS has joined #lld
14:56:24 <TomB> TomB has joined #lld
14:56:34 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
14:56:34 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine
14:56:35 <Zakim> On IRC I see TomB, AnetteS, kcoyle, jeff_, aconstan, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, kai, mhausenblas, digikim, edsu
14:56:39 <Zakim> +??P4
14:56:46 <TomB> zakim, ??p4 is TomB
14:56:46 <Zakim> +TomB; got it
14:57:37 <Zakim> +AnetteS
14:57:51 <Zakim> +??P13
14:58:13 <antoine> zakim, ??P13 is aconstan
14:58:13 <Zakim> +aconstan; got it
14:58:16 <Zakim> +michaelp
14:58:26 <jeff_> zakim, michaelp is me
14:58:26 <Zakim> +jeff_; got it
14:58:59 <pmurray> pmurray has joined #lld
14:59:12 <Zakim> +??P16
14:59:14 <kefo> kefo has joined #lld
14:59:14 <rayd> rayd has joined #lld
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14:59:23 <Zakim> +[LC]
14:59:34 <antoine> zakim, ??P16 is kai
14:59:34 <Zakim> +kai; got it
14:59:44 <antoine> zakim, LC is kefo
14:59:44 <Zakim> +kefo; got it
14:59:47 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
14:59:47 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
14:59:48 <Zakim> +??P1
15:00:00 <aconstan> zakim, mute me
15:00:00 <Zakim> aconstan should now be muted
15:00:04 <kefo> zakim, mute me
15:00:05 <Zakim> kefo should now be muted
15:00:08 <Andras> Andras has joined #lld
15:00:23 <Zakim> + +aaaa
15:00:25 <jneubert> jneubert has joined #lld
15:00:40 <Zakim> + +1.678.235.aabb
15:00:53 <antoine> zakim, ??P1 is AlexanderH
15:00:53 <Zakim> +AlexanderH; got it
15:01:04 <pmurray> zakim, aabb is me
15:01:04 <Zakim> +pmurray; got it
15:01:14 <Zakim> + +1.423.463.aacc
15:01:18 <Zakim> + +44.361.279.aadd
15:01:24 <Zakim> +[LC]
15:01:26 <kcoyle> i have but you can.t hear me
15:01:29 <antoine> zakim, aacc is ross
15:01:29 <Zakim> +ross; got it
15:01:30 <jodi> jodi has joined #LLD
15:01:41 <kcoyle> not sure what.s wrong, will come in on another line
15:01:42 <Zakim> +marcia
15:01:46 <rsinger> Zakim, aacc is really rsinger
15:01:46 <Zakim> sorry, rsinger, I do not recognize a party named 'aacc'
15:01:48 <Andras> Zakim +[LC] is Andras
15:01:49 <Zakim> +Jodi
15:01:51 <pmurray> zakim, unmute me
15:01:51 <Zakim> pmurray should no longer be muted
15:02:02 <pmurray> zakim, mute me
15:02:03 <Zakim> + +49.4.aaee
15:02:04 <Zakim> pmurray should now be muted
15:02:07 <jodi> TomB: sure :)
15:02:13 <Zakim> - +aaaa
15:02:13 <rsinger> Zakim, ross is really rsinger
15:02:13 <Zakim> +rsinger; got it
15:02:17 <antoine> zakim, aaee is jneubert
15:02:17 <Zakim> +jneubert; got it
15:02:25 <Zakim> +[LC.a]
15:02:27 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
15:02:27 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, TomB, AnetteS, aconstan (muted), jeff_ (muted), kai, kefo (muted), AlexanderH, pmurray (muted), rsinger, +44.361.279.aadd, [LC], marcia, Jodi, jneubert,
15:02:31 <Zakim> ... [LC.a]
15:02:32 <Zakim> On IRC I see jodi, jneubert, Andras, AlexanderH, marcia, rsinger, rayd, kefo, pmurray, TomB, AnetteS, kcoyle, jeff_, aconstan, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, kai, mhausenblas, digikim,
15:02:35 <Zakim> ... edsu
15:02:37 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:02:39 <antoine> zakim, LC.a is edsu
15:02:41 <Zakim> +edsu; got it
15:02:48 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is digikim
15:02:49 <Zakim> +digikim; got it
15:03:15 <antoine> zakim, who is here?
15:03:15 <Zakim> On the phone I see antoine, TomB, AnetteS, aconstan (muted), jeff_ (muted), kai, kefo (muted), AlexanderH, pmurray (muted), rsinger, +44.361.279.aadd, [LC], marcia, Jodi, jneubert,
15:03:19 <Zakim> ... edsu, digikim
15:03:20 <Zakim> On IRC I see jodi, jneubert, Andras, AlexanderH, marcia, rsinger, rayd, kefo, pmurray, TomB, AnetteS, kcoyle, jeff_, aconstan, RRSAgent, Zakim, antoine, kai, mhausenblas, digikim,
15:03:23 <Zakim> ... edsu
15:03:29 <Andras> zakim, [LC] is me
15:03:29 <Zakim> +Andras; got it
15:04:07 <jodi> +44 is UK
15:04:35 <jodi> Whose phone number is +44.361.279.aadd ?
15:04:44 <digikim> Shakespeare is from UK ;)
15:04:51 <jodi> digikim++
15:04:55 <antoine> zakim, who is making noise?
15:05:05 <Zakim> antoine, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (25%), AnetteS (15%)
15:05:19 <Andras> zakim, aadd is me
15:05:19 <Zakim> +Andras; got it
15:05:47 <AnetteS> okay
15:06:04 <Zakim> +??P40
15:06:08 <Zakim> -??P40
15:07:03 <AnetteS> Topic: Admin
15:07:30 <Andras> Zakim, [LC] is not me
15:07:30 <Zakim> I don't understand '[LC] is not me', Andras
15:07:39 <AnetteS> Minutes from last week are posted. 
15:07:47 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/11/11-lld-minutes.html 
15:07:52 <emma> emma has joined #lld
15:07:54 <AnetteS> Nobody has objections
15:08:06 <AnetteS> RESOLVED: Accept minutes of last week
15:08:32 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/RunningAgenda 
15:08:36 <Zakim> + +33.1.53.79.aaff
15:08:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html TomB
15:08:42 <emma> zakim, aaff is me
15:08:42 <Zakim> +emma; got it
15:08:53 <AnetteS> We have entered our agenda into a wiki-page as the agenda is very long
15:09:28 <aconstan> zakim, unmute me
15:09:28 <Zakim> aconstan should no longer be muted
15:09:30 <AnetteS> We have a new member: alex
15:09:44 <antoine> -> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-lld/2010Nov/0064.html
15:09:50 <AnetteS> Alex: at University of Manchester
15:10:12 <AnetteS> ...building a live topic ontology of computer science using the conference management system
15:10:29 <AnetteS> ... interested in extracting semantic data from bodies of knowledge
15:10:49 <AnetteS> Antoine welcomes Alex
15:10:57 <aconstan> zakim, mute me
15:10:57 <Zakim> aconstan should now be muted
15:11:26 <Zakim> +??P40
15:11:30 <AnetteS> Topic: Use cases
15:11:40 <antoine> zakim, ??P40 is kcoyle
15:11:40 <Zakim> +kcoyle; got it
15:12:02 <AnetteS> We have a running action to volunteer for a cluster
15:12:29 <jodi> zakim, who is making noise?
15:12:40 <Zakim> jodi, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: antoine (15%), TomB (18%), AnetteS (44%), emma (4%), Andras.a (8%)
15:13:00 <Zakim> -pmurray
15:13:19 <AnetteS> ACTION: People who were not at the face‑to‑face meeting volunteer to join a cluster [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/28‑lld‑minutes.html#a  --done
15:13:36 <antoine> ACTION: People who were not at the face-to-face meeting volunteer to join a cluster [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/28-lld-minutes.html#action03]
15:13:38 <antoine> --DONE
15:14:02 <Zakim> +pmurray
15:14:07 <AnetteS> Topic: Six clusters
15:14:38 <AnetteS> Antoine asks if a representative from one cluster volunteers for next week
15:14:53 <rsinger> next week is the thanksgiving holiday in the US, btw
15:15:12 <emma> not ready, sorry...
15:15:21 <edsu> yeah, i'm not going to be in channel next week
15:15:42 <AnetteS> discussion can be informal; nothing needs to be polished
15:16:06 <edsu> q+
15:16:13 <AnetteS> have to discuss clusters to meet dead line at end of december
15:16:16 <antoine> zakim, ack edsu
15:16:16 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:16:48 <AnetteS> edsu: exchanges emails about citation cluster for today; not ready yet
15:17:11 <AnetteS> ... confused about what we are supposed to be discussing when talking about cluster
15:17:14 <kcoyle> i'm not clear about that either
15:17:50 <AnetteS> Antoine: Focussing on issues in the cluster could be subject of discussion.
15:18:02 <AnetteS> ... what we want to resolve with the use cases
15:18:12 <AnetteS> ... find general goals in the use cases
15:18:17 <antoine> -> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Goals 
15:18:36 <AnetteS> ... extract a list of generic goals from the use cases
15:19:23 <antoine> -> http://obd.jisc.ac.uk/navigate
15:19:50 <AnetteS> ... JISC link: find scenarios for library linked data
15:20:47 <AnetteS> ... we are aiming at something similar: scenarios and use cases
15:21:02 <kcoyle> i also like that they present it in a grid -- it's easy to understand
15:21:52 <AnetteS> koyle: find goals and link back to use cases
15:22:15 <AnetteS> ... their goals are more specific than ours
15:22:28 <emma> q+ on scenarios
15:22:44 <AnetteS> Antoine: Need more discussion on that
15:22:57 <Zakim> -kcoyle
15:23:08 <kcoyle> i got dropped. will come back in
15:23:17 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:23:36 <AnetteS> emma: compare jisc cases with ours; refine them
15:23:49 <emma> s/emma/jodi
15:24:01 <Zakim> +??P40
15:24:16 <jodi> (refine both ours and potentially theirs)
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15:24:22 <antoine> zakim, IPcaller is Asaf
15:24:22 <Zakim> +Asaf; got it
15:24:31 <antoine> zakim, ??P40 is kcoyle
15:24:31 <Zakim> I already had ??P40 as kcoyle, antoine
15:24:39 <antoine> zakim, ack emma
15:24:39 <Zakim> emma, you wanted to comment on scenarios
15:24:40 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:25:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html antoine
15:25:16 <AnetteS> emma: use cases should become more abstract scenarios
15:25:22 <kcoyle> +1
15:25:27 <jeff_> +1
15:25:49 <AnetteS> ... then they can be part of the report
15:26:09 <AnetteS> ... have one or two scenarios per cluster
15:26:50 <edsu> +1
15:27:25 <Asaf> +1 re UC abstraction.
15:27:37 <AnetteS> ACTION: Antoine to ask Monica to lead discussion about JISC use cases 
15:28:24 <AnetteS> Antoine: need shepherds for a few use cases
15:28:46 <AnetteS> ... who will volunteer : need 2 shepherds
15:29:30 <jeff_> q+
15:29:34 <jeff_> zakim, unmute me
15:29:34 <Zakim> jeff_ should no longer be muted
15:30:07 <AnetteS> ... Bridging OWL and UML - Jeff has authored it; not really a use case, more a way of thinking about it
15:30:08 <TomB> q+ to propose that we bend rules and let Jeff shepherd the OWL and UML use case
15:30:22 <TomB> ack jeff_
15:30:42 <AnetteS> ... it can be on its own wiki page, but not as a use case
15:31:12 <AnetteS> TomB: alternative proposal: let Jeff shepherd his own use case
15:31:17 <emma> q+ to ask if it fits a cluster
15:31:23 <TomB> ack TomB
15:31:23 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to propose that we bend rules and let Jeff shepherd the OWL and UML use case
15:31:25 <AnetteS> Jeff: thats okay
15:31:26 <TomB> ack emma
15:31:26 <Zakim> emma, you wanted to ask if it fits a cluster
15:32:21 <AnetteS> ???: Could be part of vocabulary alignment
15:32:26 <marcia> I think that is a good idea
15:32:41 <marcia> +Jeff
15:32:43 <emma> s/???/Jeff
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15:33:11 <marcia> I think it is a higher level, abstract approach
15:33:20 <marcia> to vocabulary alignment
15:33:44 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:33:44 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
15:33:45 <AnetteS> jACTION: Put use case Bridging OWL and UML to Vocabulary Alignment
15:33:57 <AnetteS> ACTION: Put use case Bridging OWL and UML to Vocabulary Alignment
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15:34:24 <antoine> s/Put/Antoine to put/
15:34:46 <AnetteS> Use case: Academic documents: volunteers?
15:34:59 <AnetteS> Andras volunteers
15:35:27 <emma> Action 4 done (just moved it on http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/wiki/Use_Cases)
15:35:41 <AnetteS> Antoine: in which cluster should the UC be moved
15:36:36 <Zakim> -Jodi
15:36:41 <AnetteS> ACTION: People who didn't attend the face‑to‑face should volunteer to shepherd a new use case ‑‑ i.e., the cases marked "needs shepherd" in  --DONE
15:36:48 <TomB> --done
15:37:00 <Zakim> +Jodi
15:37:21 <AnetteS> Topic: TOPICS
15:37:39 <AnetteS> Antoine: do we want to keep track of all discussions in relation to Topics
15:38:11 <TomB> q+
15:38:13 <AnetteS> ... should we link between topics and discussions on the list or is it too much work?
15:38:20 <antoine> zakim, ack TomB
15:38:20 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:38:54 <AnetteS> TomB: we have a lot of valuable discussion on the list, but we should keep an eye on our goals
15:39:32 <AnetteS> ... discussions should be boiled down to a statement of the problem; summarize the state of discussion and solution
15:39:44 <AnetteS> ... link to thread in mailing list
15:40:01 <AnetteS> ... our final report should be more general than the specifics of the discussion
15:40:22 <kcoyle> agree
15:40:25 <AnetteS> ... summary of discussions and leave details on mailing list
15:40:49 <jeff_> q+
15:40:53 <jeff_> ack me
15:41:04 <emma> q+
15:41:39 <AnetteS> Jeff: example: VIAF modelling choices; discussion helped in thinking about it
15:41:53 <AnetteS> ... importance of consensus in modelling choices
15:42:20 <Zakim> -AnetteS
15:42:28 <AnetteS> ... but in the context of the LLD-Group 
15:42:43 <AnetteS> I'm off the telephone, please take over somebody else
15:43:11 <emma> ... someone will have to explain the result & how the decision was made
15:43:33 <Zakim> +AnetteS
15:43:39 <emma> Jeff: I'm  willing to write a document
15:43:41 <TomB> q+ to propose that we give Jeff an action to describe the process of design discussion
15:44:40 <AnetteS> Emma: keeping track of discussion: linking from Wiki pages could be done on the fly, not later
15:45:53 <AnetteS> TomB: propose to summarize discussions in one or two paragraphs that could be used in report
15:46:36 <AnetteS> ... as examples of the dialogs that need to be made
15:46:56 <Asaf> I think the VIAF dilemmas (polylemma?) are and would remain typical for implementations of LLD in the coming couple of years.
15:47:04 <AnetteS> Jeff: agrees
15:47:32 <AnetteS> ACTION: Jeff to  write one or two paragraphs on VIAF design discussions
15:47:39 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:47:39 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
15:48:59 <emma> I suggest that when we spot sth relevant, we link it from the corresponding topic  page on the wiki
15:49:08 <kcoyle> i agree with tomB that we need to keep our eye on our specific goals
15:49:12 <jodi> emma++
15:49:19 <jodi> kcoyle: agreed -- our time is getting short
15:49:26 <AnetteS> Antoine: if someone finds a relevant thread to associate to a topic, please link to topic
15:49:45 <emma> kcoyle++
15:49:58 <kcoyle> ok
15:50:29 <antoine> ACTION: GordonD and Antoine to study use cases that relate to vocabulary merging use case [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/24-lld-minutes.html#action01] 
15:50:32 <antoine> --CONTINUES
15:50:35 <jeff_> zakim, unmute me
15:50:35 <Zakim> jeff_ should no longer be muted
15:50:47 <antoine> ACTION: Jeff to review the UK eGovernment document on identifiers.  [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/24-lld-minutes.html#action03] 
15:50:50 <antoine> --DONE
15:50:56 <antoine> See Jeff's post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-lld/2010Nov/0111.html
15:51:14 <AnetteS> Action: Jeff to review the UK eGovernment document on identifiers.   
15:51:25 <AnetteS> Jeff would like feedback on it
15:51:54 <AnetteS> Antoine: point from the topic to the discussion
15:52:04 <marcia> ＋Jeff
15:52:10 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:52:10 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
15:52:20 <jeff_> zakim, unmute me
15:52:20 <Zakim> jeff_ should no longer be muted
15:52:26 <AnetteS> ACTION: Alex, Jeff, Martin, MichaelP elaborate on general purpose IT architecture for dealing with linked data with caching feature [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/24‑lld‑minutes.html#action04] 
15:52:32 <AnetteS> -- continues
15:52:45 <jeff_> zakim, mute me
15:52:45 <Zakim> jeff_ should now be muted
15:52:54 <AnetteS> ACTION: Emma and Antoine to create use case DATA.SEARCH‑OPTIMIZATION [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/24‑lld‑minutes.html#action06] 
15:52:58 <AnetteS> -- continues
15:53:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html emma
15:53:21 <digikim> jeff_: I'll take a look at the issue of URIs, might have some comments based on our experiences in Finland
15:53:27 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html TomB
15:53:38 <jeff_> digikim: thanks!
15:54:40 <AnetteS> Antoine: in F2F meeting: long discussion in vocabulary design
15:54:44 <emma> q+
15:55:02 <kcoyle> i don't remember that...
15:55:06 <AnetteS> ... has this been captured in the F2F outcomes
15:55:09 <TomB> ack TomB
15:55:09 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to propose that we give Jeff an action to describe the process of design discussion
15:55:15 <AnetteS> Emma: Yes, has been captured
15:55:52 <AnetteS> ... and distributed
15:56:13 <emma> ack me
15:56:27 <TomB> q+ to clarify whether Jeff's action to review the UK document is closed - in the minutes it has been reopened as a new action
15:56:48 <AnetteS> ACTION: for each use case champion: on the Vocabularies page, link to each URL use case that uses it [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/lld/minutes/2010/10/23‑lld‑minutes.html#action01] 
15:56:56 <AnetteS> -- continues
15:57:02 <kcoyle> ongoing
15:57:24 <antoine> zakim, ack TomB
15:57:24 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to clarify whether Jeff's action to review the UK document is closed - in the minutes it has been reopened as a new action
15:57:27 <Zakim> I see no one on the speaker queue
15:58:19 <AnetteS> Topic : Other wiki pages
15:58:43 <TomB> NOTE: Action on Jeff re: UK eGov is DONE - "NEW" action for the same should be deleted.
15:58:46 <AnetteS> ACTION: William: to summarize options for using CKAN to the list, before next concall [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/11/11‑lld‑minutes.html#action01] 
15:58:49 <AnetteS> -- continues
15:59:26 <AnetteS> Cannot discuss other points. Will discuss next time
15:59:43 <AnetteS> Topic : F2F after SWIB in Cologne
15:59:55 <TomB> q+ to propose that Zakim be reserved for the informal meeting for purposes of scribing
16:00:01 <AnetteS> Joachim has send an email and asked who will attend the meeting
16:00:16 <AnetteS> ... at the moment: eight participants
16:00:41 <AnetteS> ... should work out an agenda what to discuss
16:00:52 <AnetteS> ... maybe: where are open ends?
16:01:07 <AnetteS> Antoine: will be an informal meeting
16:01:17 <AnetteS> ... don't need a formal agenda
16:01:26 <Zakim> -edsu
16:01:29 <Asaf> +1
16:01:59 <Zakim> -AlexanderH
16:02:13 <AnetteS> People who shall participate at SWIB please stay on after the teleconference to discuss meeting
16:02:50 <AnetteS> TomB: proposes that Zakim be reserved for informal meeting
16:03:00 <TomB> ack TomB
16:03:00 <Zakim> TomB, you wanted to propose that Zakim be reserved for the informal meeting for purposes of scribing
16:03:12 <AnetteS> Antoine: adjourns the teleconference
16:03:29 <Zakim> -pmurray
16:03:30 <Zakim> -kcoyle
16:03:31 <jodi> thanks!
16:03:31 <Zakim> -jeff_
16:03:33 <Zakim> -Andras
16:03:34 <antoine> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:03:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html antoine
16:03:34 <Zakim> -Andras.a
16:03:37 <Zakim> -digikim
16:03:38 <Zakim> -Asaf
16:03:38 <emma> rrsagent, please draft minutes
16:03:38 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/18-lld-minutes.html emma
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16:03:42 <Zakim> -rsinger
16:03:44 <Zakim> -kefo
16:03:46 <Zakim> -marcia
16:04:37 <Asaf> Antoine: I am conveying to you best regards from Dov Winer of the National Library of Israel. :)
16:04:42 <Asaf> (and MINERVA)
16:05:49 <jodi> still here, not sure if I'll make it
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16:10:06 <emma> I think we can plan a summary on the next telecon, it would be fine enough maybe
16:11:58 <Zakim> -TomB
16:13:59 <jodi> got to run!
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16:25:08 <Zakim> -antoine
16:25:47 <Zakim> -jneubert
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16:25:51 <Zakim> Attendees were antoine, TomB, AnetteS, aconstan, jeff_, kai, kefo, +aaaa, +1.678.235.aabb, AlexanderH, pmurray, +1.423.463.aacc, +44.361.279.aadd, marcia, Jodi, +49.4.aaee,
16:25:53 <Zakim> ... rsinger, jneubert, edsu, digikim, Andras, +33.1.53.79.aaff, emma, kcoyle, Asaf
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