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17:00:37 <AndersonQuach> meeting: Web Performance Working Group
17:00:42 <AndersonQuach> scribe: AndersonQuach
17:00:46 <AndersonQuach> present+ AndersonQuach
17:01:16 <AndersonQuach> agenda+ Follow-up on feedback with respect to private domain implementation of same origin.
17:01:22 <AndersonQuach> agenda+ Follow-up on the window.performance namespace.
17:01:26 <AndersonQuach> agenda+ Resource Timing and User Timing.
17:01:30 <AndersonQuach> agenda+ Any other business.
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17:04:02 <AndersonQuach> present+ NicJansma
17:04:04 <AndersonQuach> present+ TonyG
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17:07:38 <AndersonQuach> Present+ Zhiheng
17:07:43 <AndersonQuach> Present+ ArvindJain
17:07:47 <AndersonQuach> Chair: ArvindJain
17:07:50 <AndersonQuach> list the agenda
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17:18:55 <AndersonQuach> move to agenda 2.
17:18:57 <AndersonQuach> move to agenda 2
17:19:09 <AndersonQuach> topic: Follow-up on the window.performance namespace
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17:19:25 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Found low risk with window.performance.
17:21:14 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Looks to be around 0.00993% of top traffic websites.
17:21:36 <AndersonQuach> TonyG: That's one in ten thousound sites.
17:21:57 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Yes, I recommend to with window.performance.
17:22:02 <AndersonQuach> TonyG: Sounds reasonable.
17:22:20 <AndersonQuach> Zhiheng: Sounds good.
17:22:46 <AndersonQuach> Topic: Conformance best practices
17:23:23 <AndersonQuach> Zhiheng: I'll send out notes and best practices to the email group.
17:26:20 <AndersonQuach> Present+ JasonSobel
17:28:49 <AndersonQuach> move to agenda 3
17:28:57 <AndersonQuach> Topic: Resource Timing and User Timing
17:29:29 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Updates to resource timing proposal sent to the email group. Would like to capture the proposals in the spec. So we can review both proposals.
17:29:39 <AndersonQuach> Zhiheng: Sounds good.
17:30:13 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Resource timing shares similar problems with Navigation Timing w.r.t sharing with sites.
17:30:40 <AndersonQuach> AndersonQuach: Options include: document.domain, CORS, or implement our own switch.
17:30:53 <AndersonQuach> NicJansma: Also there's the option to provide less information by default.
17:32:20 <AndersonQuach> JasonSobel: A lot of value would be lost if there's a limited timeline. We should consider an implementation where we can get access to the full timeline.
17:32:39 <AndersonQuach> Zhiheng: Does CORS fit?
17:32:57 <AndersonQuach> JasonSobel: It's a better fit, to allow cross-domain access to resource timings.
17:33:21 <AndersonQuach> Zhiheng: The timing information with resources is more valuable, may warrant a more comprehensive design.
17:35:03 <AndersonQuach> JasonSobel: Let's send a ping on the public list on alternate designs and CORS to allow access to resource timings. I suspect designing an alternate solution may be straightforward. Perhaps we can flush this out fully.
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18:14:53 <AndersonQuach> regrets+ JasonWeber
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18:15:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-webperf-minutes.html AndersonQuach
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18:59:51 <AndersonQuach> topic: Summary of Action Items
19:01:30 <AndersonQuach> 1. Next week's meeting, get together and discuss the feeback on the private domain design decision.
19:01:45 <AndersonQuach> 2. Add resource timing design proposal as a separate section in the spec.
19:02:27 <AndersonQuach> 3. Brainstorm solutions for sharing resource timings across domains.
19:03:41 <AndersonQuach> [decision] Given the current low risks for Internet websites, we'll continue to use window.performance as the global namespace for Web Timings.
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19:03:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-webperf-minutes.html AndersonQuach
19:17:35 <AndersonQuach> 4. Zhiheng to send out conformance tests notes and best practices.
19:17:46 <AndersonQuach> rrsagent, generate minutes
19:17:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/17-webperf-minutes.html AndersonQuach
19:20:44 <AndersonQuach> clear the agenda
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19:20:48 <RRSAgent> I see no action items