IRC log of mw4d on 2010-11-15

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12:52:02 [RRSAgent]
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logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/11/15-mw4d-irc
12:52:08 [Steph]
zakim, this will be mw4d
12:52:08 [Zakim]
ok, Steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
12:52:16 [Steph]
Meeting: MW4D bi-monthly call
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Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Nov/0008.html
12:52:55 [Steph]
Chair:Stephane
12:53:02 [Steph]
Scribe:Steph
12:53:08 [Steph]
PResent:Steph, Max
12:53:27 [Steph]
rrsagent, make log public
12:58:37 [Steph]
zakim, code ?
12:58:37 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Steph
12:59:00 [Zakim]
MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started
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+ +33.5.81.60.aaaa
12:59:50 [shwetank]
shwetank has joined #mw4d
12:59:57 [Steph]
zakim, aaaa is me
12:59:57 [Zakim]
+Steph; got it
13:01:00 [Zakim]
+[IPcaller]
13:01:05 [maxf]
zakim, code?
13:01:05 [Zakim]
the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), maxf
13:01:15 [Steph]
zakim, ipcaller is StephR
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+StephR; got it
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+??P2
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13:02:00 [maxf]
zakim, P2 is max
13:02:00 [Zakim]
sorry, maxf, I do not recognize a party named 'P2'
13:02:05 [maxf]
zakim, ??P2 is me
13:02:05 [Zakim]
+maxf; got it
13:02:22 [Steph]
PREsent+Stephanie
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13:02:43 [shwetank]
Zakim, shwetank is me
13:02:43 [Zakim]
sorry, shwetank, I do not recognize a party named 'shwetank'
13:03:16 [Steph]
shwetank you have to call in for zakim to recognize you
13:03:56 [Zakim]
+ +1.212.363.aabb
13:04:11 [Steph]
zakim, aabb is ChrysS
13:04:11 [Zakim]
+ChrysS; got it
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+??P5
13:04:20 [shwetank]
ok, im in now
13:04:24 [Zakim]
+ +44.750.070.aacc
13:04:25 [Steph]
zakim, ??P5 is Shwetank
13:04:25 [Zakim]
+Shwetank; got it
13:04:33 [Steph]
zakim, aacc is Betty
13:04:33 [Zakim]
+Betty; got it
13:04:53 [Steph]
PResent+Shwetank
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PResent+Betty
13:05:02 [Steph]
PResent+Chrystelle
13:05:24 [Steph]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Nov/0008.html
13:05:29 [Steph]
Topic: M4D conference
13:05:50 [Steph]
http://109.73.162.110/~humanito/sites/default/files/proceedingsm4d2010_0.pdf
13:07:00 [maxf]
http://m4d.humanit.org/ <- conference site
13:10:05 [Steph]
Topic: Tools
13:10:13 [Steph]
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_tools
13:18:24 [Steph]
Stephanie: adopted definition, now should move to review
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all: agreed
13:19:46 [Steph]
max: apply methodology on a series of tools ?
13:19:50 [Steph]
steph: yes
13:20:09 [Steph]
steph: propose data collection tools ? sms gateway ?
13:20:18 [Steph]
Christ: both might be interesting
13:20:36 [maxf]
Stephane: other opinions?
13:20:43 [betty]
I agree with both tools.
13:21:06 [maxf]
Stephanie: OK. Can we find 2 or 3 of each?
13:21:15 [maxf]
Stephane: I know of 10 for SMS
13:21:31 [maxf]
FrontlineSMS, Kannel, gnokki, MS, etc.
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for data collection: even more
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... frontlineForms, episurveyor...
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... surveymonkey, openxdata
13:22:22 [shwetank]
+q
13:22:31 [Steph]
ack shwetank
13:22:43 [Steph]
shwetank: might be some tools that are not final or beta
13:22:53 [Steph]
including them ?
13:23:08 [maxf]
Stephane: as far as we're tracking that we can surely integrate them
13:23:17 [maxf]
... that's my feeling
13:23:21 [betty]
Shall we list possible tools on Wiki & mailing list with pros & cons? Later we discuss what we choose.
13:23:26 [betty]
Q+
13:23:38 [maxf]
Stephanie: as long as they're stable
13:23:53 [maxf]
... and as long as we can apply the methodology
13:24:05 [Steph]
ack betty
13:24:37 [maxf]
betty: we can put the possible tools on wiki and we [bad line here]
13:25:24 [maxf]
Steph: [...] when we have a good package we can apply the methodology.
13:25:29 [steph_]
yes
13:25:51 [Steph]
Action: steph to create a page linked from tools to start listing data collection tools and SMS gateway
13:26:50 [Steph]
Topic: Impact Analysis
13:27:06 [Steph]
http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_impact
13:28:35 [shwetank]
* I also cant hear
13:29:12 [shwetank]
ok, now i can make out the voice :)
13:32:03 [betty]
Steph: Minimum requirements for data services.
13:33:12 [betty]
Steph: We should see from the cost perspective.
13:34:39 [betty]
Steph: How many universities do teach how to develop Mobile Web content?
13:36:01 [betty]
Some universities in Kenya offer the course in summer.
13:36:32 [betty]
Q+
13:36:43 [Steph]
ack betty
13:37:09 [betty]
Any comments on the framework?
13:39:15 [betty]
MW supporting enablers: law, regulation, policy.
13:41:15 [Steph]
stephR: what are you going to measure ?
13:41:18 [Steph]
country ? project ?
13:41:37 [Steph]
Betty: region level
13:42:24 [Steph]
measuring in which state is the region
13:42:41 [Steph]
StephR: existing popular web site might be interesting to catch
13:43:04 [Steph]
getting info on what people are using: social network, shopping, etc
13:43:16 [Steph]
Betty: MW easu indicator
13:43:28 [Steph]
s/easu/use/
13:44:32 [Steph]
betty: mobile web readiness, content section has some info
13:45:10 [shwetank]
+q
13:45:21 [Steph]
ack shwetank
13:45:37 [Steph]
shwetank: what will be the source of the indicators ?
13:45:58 [Steph]
per country, there are reports that might be useful
13:46:07 [Steph]
penetration/coverage/reliability
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by regulators
13:46:15 [Steph]
good sources of information
13:47:14 [betty]
next to the indicators, we can list of mw staholders providing sources of the indicators
13:51:19 [Steph]
action: Shwetank to look at TRAI report and see what kind of info provided
13:51:51 [Steph]
action: Betty to look at regulator of indonesia report and analyze provided info
13:52:59 [betty]
q+
13:53:04 [Steph]
ack betty
13:55:15 [shwetank]
we can add/modify later on
13:55:48 [Steph]
Topic: Next Meeting
13:56:20 [steph_]
fine for me
13:56:24 [Steph]
DEcember 6
13:56:28 [maxf]
works for me
13:56:39 [betty]
I can't join on 6 Dec.
13:57:03 [shwetank]
actually, now that i think of it, maybe dec 6 might not work for me too
13:57:32 [maxf]
thanks! bye
13:57:34 [Zakim]
-Steph
13:57:35 [Zakim]
-ChrysS
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-StephR
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-Shwetank
13:57:45 [betty]
quit
13:57:49 [Steph]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/11/15-mw4d-minutes.html Steph
13:57:55 [maxf]
zakim, hangup
13:57:55 [Zakim]
I don't understand 'hangup', maxf
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-maxf
13:58:13 [Zakim]
-Betty
13:58:14 [Zakim]
MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended
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Attendees were +33.5.81.60.aaaa, Steph, StephR, maxf, +1.212.363.aabb, ChrysS, +44.750.070.aacc, Shwetank, Betty