00:01:52 janina, judy - OK, I have it reverted now 00:02:31 RRSAgent, bye 00:02:31 I see no action items 14:59:43 RRSAgent has joined #html-a11y 14:59:44 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-irc 14:59:57 zakim, this will be WAI_PFWG(HTML 14:59:57 ok, janina, I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM already started 15:00:05 zakim, call janina 15:00:05 ok, janina; the call is being made 15:00:07 +Janina 15:00:12 eric_carlson has joined #html-a11y 15:00:21 JF has joined #html-a11y 15:00:28 zakim, mute me 15:00:28 Janina should now be muted 15:00:34 +Gregory_Rosmaita 15:00:35 zakim, who's here? 15:00:36 +[IPcaller] 15:00:38 On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina (muted), Gregory_Rosmaita, [IPcaller] 15:00:42 On IRC I see JF, eric_carlson, RRSAgent, Zakim, jongund, oedipus, MikeSmith, MichaelC, janina, sideshow, trackbot 15:00:51 +Eric_Carlson 15:00:56 kliehm has joined #html-a11y 15:00:59 +Michael_Cooper 15:01:00 zakim, drop janina 15:01:03 Janina is being disconnected 15:01:07 -Janina 15:01:23 zakim, call janina 15:01:27 ok, janina; the call is being made 15:01:28 zakim, ipcaller is Everett_Zufelt 15:01:29 +Janina 15:01:33 +Everett_Zufelt; got it 15:01:35 +??P12 15:01:49 zakim, ??P12 is jongund 15:01:49 +jongund; got it 15:02:31 Meeting: HTML-A11Y telecon 15:02:32 Chair: Mike 15:02:32 agenda: this 15:02:32 agenda+ Identify Scribe http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List 15:02:32 agenda+ Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open 15:02:32 agenda+ clarify proper handling of ARIA issues vs. ARIA-in-HTML mapping 15:02:34 agenda+ Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Media; Canvas; ARIA Mappings 15:02:36 agenda+ next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe 15:02:38 agenda+ be done 15:02:40 15:02:43 Marco_Ranon has joined #html-a11y 15:02:46 +kliehm 15:03:27 zakim, who's here? 15:03:27 On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Everett_Zufelt, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, jongund, kliehm 15:03:29 On IRC I see Marco_Ranon, kliehm, JF, eric_carlson, RRSAgent, Zakim, jongund, oedipus, MikeSmith, MichaelC, janina, sideshow, trackbot 15:03:58 +Marco_Ranon 15:05:00 zakim, who's noisy? 15:05:11 oedipus, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Michael_Cooper (56%), Marco_Ranon (39%) 15:05:14 Zakim, mute me 15:05:14 Marco_Ranon should now be muted 15:06:12 ok 15:06:20 no worries 15:06:31 scribe: Marco_Ranon 15:06:40 scribenick: Marco_Ranon 15:07:20 zakim, move to agendum 2 15:07:20 agendum 2. "Actions Review http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open" taken up [from janina] 15:08:28 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus 15:09:32 MC: all action are complete 15:09:48 zakim, move to agendum 3 15:09:48 agendum 3. "clarify proper handling of ARIA issues vs. ARIA-in-HTML mapping" taken up [from janina] 15:10:08 JS: deadline for AIRA. not strictly HTML matter but there is the mapping to HTML5 15:10:12 +Cynthia_Shelly 15:10:21 s/AIRA/ARIA/ 15:10:41 regrets+ Laura_Carlson,Joshue_O'Connor,Sylvia_Pfieffer,Denis_Boudreau,Kenny_Johar 15:10:51 MikeSmith has joined #html-a11y 15:11:06 JS: if anybody want to raise questions, bear in mind that the mapping is a separate process 15:11:30 Zakim, call Mike-good 15:11:30 I am sorry, MikeSmith; I do not know a number for Mike-good 15:11:33 Zakim, call Mike-goog 15:11:33 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:11:34 +Mike 15:11:56 Zakim, drop Mike 15:11:56 Mike is being disconnected 15:11:58 -Mike 15:12:03 Zakim, call Mike 15:12:03 ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made 15:12:05 +Mike 15:12:21 RRSAgent, make minutes 15:12:21 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith 15:12:36 JS: if somebody is looking at ARIA, be aware that there is a deadline coming in a week time 15:13:14 MS: did we decide what process should be followed? 15:13:19 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0546.html 15:13:35 -> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/comments/instructions ARIA comment instructions 15:14:39 public-pfwg-comments@w3.org 15:15:16 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-pfwg-comments 15:15:17 MS: for clarity, comments about ARIA specs for semantic, etc, go to the PF, using the form (currently down) 15:16:41 MS: issues related to use of ARIA attributes in HTML, should go through the HTML bug reporting procedure 15:17:04 HTML WG bugzilla entry form: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/enter_bug.cgi?product=HTML%20WG 15:17:24 List of HTML5 ARIA bugs: http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?product=HTML+WG&keywords=aria 15:17:29 zakim, move to agendum 4 15:17:29 agendum 4. "Subteam Reports: Bug Triage; Media; Canvas; ARIA Mappings" taken up [from janina] 15:18:15 minutes of 2010-10-19 bug triage team meeting: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0519.html 15:18:39 MK: Bug Triage, we checked a number of bugs adding the a11ytf keyword 15:18:59 MK: at TPAC we should decide what to do next and how to proceed next 15:19:31 I'll be there 15:19:35 GJR will be there virtually 15:19:48 MR, MK, MC will be at TPAC 15:20:56 JF: Media, met yesterday after three weeks 15:20:58 media sub-team telecon minutes from 20 October 2010: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0539.html 15:21:24 JF: concern about integration of media text in HTML specs 15:21:50 rrsagent, make minutes 15:21:50 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm 15:22:03 media: spec text additions update from janina: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Oct/0524.html 15:22:14 JS: we need to file bugs regarding reference to WebSRT 15:22:48 JS: we are looking at timestamp format and multiple tracks 15:25:40 JF: WebSRT is currently into the draft so we can file bugs 15:25:44 zakim, who's on the phone? 15:25:44 On the phone I see John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Everett_Zufelt, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, jongund, kliehm (muted), Marco_Ranon (muted), Cynthia_Shelly, Mike 15:25:51 rrsagent, make minutes 15:25:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm 15:26:14 http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#timed-tracks-0 15:26:20 http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#websrt-cue-text-rendering-rules 15:26:23 MS: Canvas, skip because Richard is not on 15:26:27 http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/rendering.html#applying-css-properties-to-websrt-node-objects 15:26:37 MS: ARIA mapping, already discussed, nothing to add 15:26:57 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/ 15:27:13 http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/results 15:27:15 JF: poll for canvas expirtes today 15:27:33 table summary poll: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-32-objection-poll/ closes today 15:27:51 table summary poll: http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issue-32-objection-poll/results 15:28:15 MS: not many responses 15:28:50 s/expirtes/expires/ 15:29:00 MS: anybody that hasn't responded yet, please take your time to respond to the poll if you have anything you want to say about canvas 15:29:20 frankolivier has joined #html-a11y 15:30:24 frankoliver, could you please review and respond to http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/40318/issues-74-and-105-objection-poll/ 15:30:36 will do 15:30:40 thanks 15:30:46 CS: please ask directly to who could be interested to answer, to do so 15:31:01 zakim, move to agendum 5 15:31:01 agendum 5. "next meetings, confirm date/time, choose scribe" taken up [from janina] 15:31:08 MS: both canvas and table summary 15:31:43 MS: meeitng next wekk? 15:31:51 MikeSmith, when is the publishing TPAC moritorium in effect? 15:32:13 oedipus, can't remember for sure 15:32:17 will check right now 15:32:20 JS: we should meet, even if we are close to TPAC 15:32:44 JF: would like to participate virtually. 15:32:58 MS: we can discuss it formally next week 15:33:41 AOB 15:33:54 CS: call for help for mapping work 15:33:57 TOPIC: New Business 15:34:18 JF: what kind of help 15:34:39 CS: HTML: check the document and make suggestions 15:35:03 CS: ARIA mapping: go through issues raised on the document 15:35:14 CS to send links to documents 15:36:21 -Cynthia_Shelly 15:36:23 Zakim, drop Mike 15:36:23 Mike is being disconnected 15:36:23 -Mike 15:36:24 -jongund 15:36:24 -Everett_Zufelt 15:36:26 -Eric_Carlson 15:36:26 -Michael_Cooper 15:36:27 zakim, unmute me 15:36:27 -John_Foliot 15:36:28 Marco_Ranon should no longer be muted 15:36:30 -Janina 15:36:30 eric_carlson has left #html-a11y 15:36:36 -kliehm 15:36:47 -Gregory_Rosmaita 15:36:49 -Marco_Ranon 15:36:49 WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has ended 15:36:51 Attendees were John_Foliot, Janina, Gregory_Rosmaita, Eric_Carlson, Michael_Cooper, Everett_Zufelt, jongund, kliehm, Marco_Ranon, Cynthia_Shelly, Mike 15:36:56 zakim, please part 15:36:56 Zakim has left #html-a11y 15:37:01 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/21-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus 15:48:57 janina has left #html-a11y 15:54:42 I see no action items