IRC log of mediaann on 2010-10-19

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zakim, MarkA is me

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+Vero; got it

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trackbot, start telecon

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Zakim, this will be MAWG

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ok, trackbot, I see IA_MAWG()7:00AM already started

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Meeting: Media Annotations Working Group Teleconference

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Date: 19 October 2010

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chair: Joakim

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agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0091.html

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zakim, aabb is raphael

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+raphael; got it

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zakim, who's here?

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On the phone I see Vero, joakim, +33.9.53.85.aaaa, raphael

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On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, Joakim, daniel, raphael, trackbot

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+??P4

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Meeting: MAWG

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scribers?

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scribe: Veronique

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http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html

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http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html

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minutes of last meeting

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scribenick: Vero

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propose to accept http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html

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accepted

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still one telecon before the next face to face

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open

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ITEM: open action items

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action 273 ongoing

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Sorry, couldn't find user - 273

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Thierry: Silvia Pfeiffer proposed to fill in missing information

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... for Flash could not find missing info, as it is not a totally open standard

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Raphael: some parts of Flash are open, the ones we are interested in

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Thierry: I will contact Adobe for that

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/275

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the document would not be improved by removing the "normative" sections

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Joakim: propose to keep them in the document, adds clarity

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... there has been editorial changes to remove them from the text

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/294

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Raphael: has edited the table, will push it at the end of the teleconference

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309

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Thierry: the css is ready, but we should discuss whether we want this markup

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ACTION-309?

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ACTION-309 -- Thierry Michel to improve markup of nomative/informative, probably with specific class to visualise -- due 2010-09-16 -- OPEN

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309

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close ACTIO 311

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s/ACTIO/ACTION/

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/319

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Thierry: sent the email but we do not have an agreement from James

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close ACTION 319

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http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/321

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Thierry: sent the email to James and he did not respond

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... so we either consider that he is satisfied or, if he does not remove the formal objection, we will follow the W3C process and get the director's approval

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Raphael: if he attends the F2F, it would be a good opportunity to solve the problems

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action on Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F

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Sorry, couldn't find user - on

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action Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F

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Created ACTION-324 - Check out whether James attends the F2F [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].

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ITEM: LC document publication schedule

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Thierry: lacking behind, but was to be expected

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... if we want to have a good quality of document for the 2nd last call

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Joakim: would be good to make a new scedule

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the LC Comments status is as follows:

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action Thierry to make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones

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Created ACTION-325 - Make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].

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=====

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Agreed: Commenter approved disposition

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******

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-- LC Comment -2389 on Media Ontology spec

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-- LC Comment -2398 on Media Ontology spec (jose)

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-- LC Comment -2403 on Media Ontology spec

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-- LC Comment -2404 on Media Ontology spec

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-- LC Comment -2417 on Media Ontology spec (PLING Renato)

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-- LC Comment -2410 on Media API spec Jo Rabin

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ITEM LC comments tracking

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-- LC Comment -2394 on Media API spec (timeless : need to send final draft for review.).

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On going (response from commenter- partial or no agreement):

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***********************************************************

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** LC Comment -2393 on Media Ontology spec (deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0245.html

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--> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.

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** LC Comment -2405 on Media Ontology spec (Doug)

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satisfied by our response but would like to see it in the spec.

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Confused by your solution around the "ma" prefix, and would like to

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see it in writing.

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0021.html

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--> ACTION: Véronique to see with Raphael or Wonsuk about new wording in the spec

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** LC Comment -2418 on Media Ontology spec (need to respond to 3 unsolved issues) see to do

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html

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--> ACTION: Véronique to investigate 3 unsolved issues

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** LC Comment -2395 on Media API spec(deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html

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--> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.

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** LC Comment -2419 on Media API spec (need to respond to unsolved issues)

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0233.html

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Proposal from Chris:

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0045.html

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--> ACTION: Chris to investigate unsolved issues)

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** LC Comment -2406 on Media API spec (Doug)

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Should discuus this further with Doug during a telecon. Doug should provide Scenario. Doug kind of agree ... s

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html

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Ongoing responses to commenters with partial or no agreement

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LC 2393

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Thierry: last email

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html

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no further answer from James

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Thierry: Silvia has sent some answers to his emails and she proposed to fill in some of the info we would need in the table

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... first will check out if James comes to TPAC

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... if no answer do we consider that he agrees?

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... James is the only one with formal objection

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... we could wait that we have the WebM container mapping information provided by Silvia and point him to this table

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... and ask him then for his approval, stating that we think that we have covered his request

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action Thierry to check out with Silvia about the WebM container mapping table

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Created ACTION-326 - Check out with Silvia about the WebM container mapping table [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html

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still ongoing, have to check out

11:37:10 [tmichel]

As of today James Salsman is not registered at TPAC

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0077.html

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html

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-Vero

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+Vero

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Thierry: does not have any response to the latest emails

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Joakim: will resolve the ongoing formal objection the same way as for the other of his formal objections

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Raphael: can we conteact him by another mean than email?

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Thierry: can ivite him to a telecon or tpac

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s/conteact/contact/

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Joakim: we also have to coordinate with Doug, Wonsuk, Joakim and Chris

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... have not found proper time slot yet

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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html

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Joakim: will send an email to API editors, propose 2 options this week

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... otherwise next telecon or TPAC

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... Doug should send a draft scenario, which we did not get yet

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ITEM: discuss the TPAC agenda

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Joakim: we do not have a draft yet

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Thierry: I can send a draft tomorrow

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Joakim: I can help you finilize it

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RSS Agent, draft minutes

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-Felix

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Bye bye!

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RSSAgent, draft minutes

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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rrsagent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html Joakim

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RRSAgent, make logs public

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RRSAgent, draft minutes

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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html raphael

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- +33.9.53.85.aaaa

11:58:11 [raphael]

zakim, who is here?

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On the phone I see joakim, raphael, Vero

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On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, daniel, raphael, trackbot

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-Vero

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-raphael

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-joakim

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IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended

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Attendees were joakim, Vero, +33.9.53.85.aaaa, +34.93.00.aabb, raphael, Felix

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exit

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