IRC log of mediaann on 2010-10-19

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zakim, MarkA is me
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+Vero; got it
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+ +
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trackbot, start telecon
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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Zakim, this will be MAWG
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ok, trackbot, I see IA_MAWG()7:00AM already started
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Meeting: Media Annotations Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 19 October 2010
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chair: Joakim
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+ +34.93.00.aabb
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zakim, aabb is raphael
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+raphael; got it
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zakim, who's here?
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On the phone I see Vero, joakim, +, raphael
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On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, Joakim, daniel, raphael, trackbot
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rrsagent, make log public
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Meeting: MAWG
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scribe: Veronique
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minutes of last meeting
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scribenick: Vero
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propose to accept
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still one telecon before the next face to face
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ITEM: open action items
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action 273 ongoing
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Sorry, couldn't find user - 273
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Thierry: Silvia Pfeiffer proposed to fill in missing information
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... for Flash could not find missing info, as it is not a totally open standard
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Raphael: some parts of Flash are open, the ones we are interested in
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Thierry: I will contact Adobe for that
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the document would not be improved by removing the "normative" sections
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Joakim: propose to keep them in the document, adds clarity
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... there has been editorial changes to remove them from the text
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Raphael: has edited the table, will push it at the end of the teleconference
11:17:10 [Vero]
11:17:41 [Vero]
Thierry: the css is ready, but we should discuss whether we want this markup
11:18:08 [raphael]
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ACTION-309 -- Thierry Michel to improve markup of nomative/informative, probably with specific class to visualise -- due 2010-09-16 -- OPEN
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11:18:26 [Vero]
close ACTIO 311
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11:19:05 [Vero]
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Thierry: sent the email but we do not have an agreement from James
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close ACTION 319
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Thierry: sent the email to James and he did not respond
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... so we either consider that he is satisfied or, if he does not remove the formal objection, we will follow the W3C process and get the director's approval
11:24:11 [Vero]
Raphael: if he attends the F2F, it would be a good opportunity to solve the problems
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action on Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F
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Sorry, couldn't find user - on
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action Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F
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Created ACTION-324 - Check out whether James attends the F2F [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
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ITEM: LC document publication schedule
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Thierry: lacking behind, but was to be expected
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... if we want to have a good quality of document for the 2nd last call
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Joakim: would be good to make a new scedule
11:27:05 [tmichel]
the LC Comments status is as follows:
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action Thierry to make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones
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Created ACTION-325 - Make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
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Agreed: Commenter approved disposition
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11:27:14 [tmichel]
-- LC Comment -2389 on Media Ontology spec
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-- LC Comment -2398 on Media Ontology spec (jose)
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-- LC Comment -2403 on Media Ontology spec
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-- LC Comment -2404 on Media Ontology spec
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-- LC Comment -2417 on Media Ontology spec (PLING Renato)
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-- LC Comment -2410 on Media API spec Jo Rabin
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ITEM LC comments tracking
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-- LC Comment -2394 on Media API spec (timeless : need to send final draft for review.).
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On going (response from commenter- partial or no agreement):
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** LC Comment -2393 on Media Ontology spec (deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)
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--> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.
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** LC Comment -2405 on Media Ontology spec (Doug)
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satisfied by our response but would like to see it in the spec.
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Confused by your solution around the "ma" prefix, and would like to
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see it in writing.
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--> ACTION: Véronique to see with Raphael or Wonsuk about new wording in the spec
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** LC Comment -2418 on Media Ontology spec (need to respond to 3 unsolved issues) see to do
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--> ACTION: Véronique to investigate 3 unsolved issues
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** LC Comment -2395 on Media API spec(deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)
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--> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.
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** LC Comment -2419 on Media API spec (need to respond to unsolved issues)
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Proposal from Chris:
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--> ACTION: Chris to investigate unsolved issues)
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** LC Comment -2406 on Media API spec (Doug)
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Should discuus this further with Doug during a telecon. Doug should provide Scenario. Doug kind of agree ... s
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Ongoing responses to commenters with partial or no agreement
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LC 2393
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Thierry: last email
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no further answer from James
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Thierry: Silvia has sent some answers to his emails and she proposed to fill in some of the info we would need in the table
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... first will check out if James comes to TPAC
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... if no answer do we consider that he agrees?
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... James is the only one with formal objection
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... we could wait that we have the WebM container mapping information provided by Silvia and point him to this table
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... and ask him then for his approval, stating that we think that we have covered his request
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action Thierry to check out with Silvia about the WebM container mapping table
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Created ACTION-326 - Check out with Silvia about the WebM container mapping table [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
11:36:17 [Vero]
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still ongoing, have to check out
11:37:10 [tmichel]
As of today James Salsman is not registered at TPAC
11:44:37 [tmichel]
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11:44:41 [Zakim]
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11:46:53 [Vero]
Thierry: does not have any response to the latest emails
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Joakim: will resolve the ongoing formal objection the same way as for the other of his formal objections
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Raphael: can we conteact him by another mean than email?
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Thierry: can ivite him to a telecon or tpac
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Joakim: we also have to coordinate with Doug, Wonsuk, Joakim and Chris
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... have not found proper time slot yet
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Joakim: will send an email to API editors, propose 2 options this week
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... otherwise next telecon or TPAC
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... Doug should send a draft scenario, which we did not get yet
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ITEM: discuss the TPAC agenda
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Joakim: we do not have a draft yet
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Thierry: I can send a draft tomorrow
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Joakim: I can help you finilize it
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RSS Agent, draft minutes
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Bye bye!
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RSSAgent, draft minutes
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate raphael
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate Joakim
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RRSAgent, make logs public
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RRSAgent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate raphael
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- +
11:58:11 [raphael]
zakim, who is here?
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On the phone I see joakim, raphael, Vero
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On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, daniel, raphael, trackbot
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IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended
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Attendees were joakim, Vero, +, +34.93.00.aabb, raphael, Felix
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