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11:02:36 <Vero> zakim, MarkA is me
11:02:36 <Zakim> +Vero; got it
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11:03:52 <raphael> trackbot, start telecon
11:03:55 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs public
11:03:57 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be MAWG
11:03:57 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_MAWG()7:00AM already started
11:03:58 <trackbot> Meeting: Media Annotations Working Group Teleconference
11:03:58 <trackbot> Date: 19 October 2010
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11:04:05 <Joakim> chair: Joakim
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11:04:57 <Joakim> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0091.html
11:05:01 <raphael> zakim, aabb is raphael
11:05:01 <Zakim> +raphael; got it
11:05:04 <Joakim> zakim, who's here?
11:05:04 <Zakim> On the phone I see Vero, joakim, +33.9.53.85.aaaa, raphael
11:05:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, Joakim, daniel, raphael, trackbot
11:05:14 <Zakim> +??P4
11:05:50 <Joakim> rrsagent, make log public
11:05:57 <Joakim> Meeting: MAWG
11:06:56 <Joakim> scribers?
11:07:19 <Joakim> scribe: Veronique
11:07:27 <Joakim> http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html
11:07:36 <Joakim> http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html
11:07:42 <Vero> minutes of last meeting
11:07:45 <raphael> scribenick: Vero
11:07:59 <Vero> propose to accept  http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-mediaann-minutes.html
11:08:12 <Vero> accepted
11:08:30 <Vero> still one telecon before the next face to face
11:09:00 <Joakim>  http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/open
11:09:17 <Vero> ITEM: open action items
11:10:04 <Vero> action 273 ongoing
11:10:04 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - 273
11:10:35 <Vero> Thierry: Silvia Pfeiffer proposed to fill in missing information
11:10:57 <Vero> ... for Flash could not find missing info, as it is not a totally open standard
11:11:22 <Vero> Raphael: some parts of Flash are open, the ones we are interested in
11:11:35 <Vero> Thierry: I will contact Adobe for that
11:12:06 <Vero> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/275
11:12:33 <Vero> the document would not be improved by removing the "normative" sections
11:13:45 <Vero> Joakim: propose to keep them in the document, adds clarity
11:14:30 <Vero> ... there has been editorial changes to remove them from the text
11:14:53 <Vero> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/294
11:15:26 <Vero> Raphael: has edited the table, will push it at the end of the teleconference
11:17:10 <Vero> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309
11:17:41 <Vero> Thierry: the css is ready, but we should discuss whether we want this markup
11:18:08 <raphael> ACTION-309?
11:18:08 <trackbot> ACTION-309 -- Thierry Michel to improve markup of nomative/informative, probably with specific class to visualise -- due 2010-09-16 -- OPEN
11:18:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/309
11:18:26 <Vero> close ACTIO 311
11:18:42 <Vero> s/ACTIO/ACTION/
11:19:05 <Vero> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/319
11:19:25 <Vero> Thierry: sent the email but we do not have an agreement from James
11:19:38 <Vero> close ACTION 319
11:21:20 <Vero> http://www.w3.org/2008/WebVideo/Annotations/track/actions/321
11:21:36 <Vero> Thierry: sent the email to James and he did not respond
11:22:26 <Vero> ... so we either consider that he is satisfied or, if he does not remove the formal objection, we will follow the W3C process and get the director's approval
11:24:11 <Vero> Raphael: if he attends the F2F, it would be a good opportunity to solve the problems
11:24:32 <Vero> action on Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F
11:24:32 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - on
11:24:46 <Vero> action Thierry to check out whether James attends the F2F
11:24:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-324 - Check out whether James attends the F2F [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
11:25:32 <Vero> ITEM: LC document publication schedule
11:25:54 <Vero> Thierry: lacking behind, but was to be expected
11:26:16 <Vero> ... if we want to have a good quality of document for the 2nd last call
11:26:36 <Vero> Joakim: would be good to make a new scedule
11:27:05 <tmichel> the LC Comments status is as follows:
11:27:05 <Vero> action Thierry to make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones
11:27:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-325 - Make a new schedule of working plan during f2f and following milestones [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
11:27:08 <tmichel> =====
11:27:10 <tmichel> Agreed: Commenter approved disposition
11:27:12 <tmichel> ******
11:27:14 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2389 on Media Ontology spec
11:27:16 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2398 on Media Ontology spec (jose)
11:27:18 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2403 on Media Ontology spec
11:27:20 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2404 on Media Ontology spec
11:27:22 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2417 on Media Ontology spec (PLING Renato)
11:27:24 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2410 on Media API spec Jo Rabin 
11:27:25 <Vero> ITEM LC comments tracking
11:27:26 <tmichel> -- LC Comment -2394 on Media API spec (timeless : need to send final draft for review.).
11:27:28 <tmichel> On going (response from commenter- partial or no agreement):
11:27:30 <tmichel> ***********************************************************
11:27:32 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2393 on Media Ontology spec (deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)
11:27:34 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0245.html
11:27:38 <tmichel> --> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.
11:27:40 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2405 on Media Ontology spec (Doug)
11:27:42 <tmichel> satisfied by our response but would like to see it in the spec.
11:27:44 <tmichel> Confused by your solution around the "ma" prefix, and would like to 
11:27:46 <tmichel> see it in writing. 
11:27:48 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0021.html
11:27:50 <tmichel> --> ACTION: Véronique to see with Raphael or Wonsuk about new wording in the spec
11:27:52 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2418 on Media Ontology spec (need to respond to 3 unsolved issues) see to do
11:27:54 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html
11:27:56 <tmichel> --> ACTION: Véronique to investigate 3 unsolved issues
11:27:58 <tmichel> --------------
11:28:00 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2395 on Media API spec(deasagree for speex or VP8 and codec)
11:28:02 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html
11:28:04 <tmichel> --> ACTION: Thierry to investigate.
11:28:08 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2419 on Media API spec (need to respond to unsolved issues)
11:28:10 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0233.html
11:28:12 <tmichel> Proposal from Chris:
11:28:14 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0045.html
11:28:16 <tmichel> --> ACTION: Chris to investigate unsolved issues)
11:28:18 <tmichel> ** LC Comment -2406 on Media API spec (Doug)
11:28:20 <tmichel> Should discuus this further with Doug during a telecon. Doug should provide Scenario. Doug kind of agree ... s
11:29:10 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html
11:29:14 <Vero> Ongoing responses to commenters with partial or no agreement
11:29:45 <Vero> LC 2393
11:30:01 <Vero> Thierry: last email
11:30:10 <Vero> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html
11:30:31 <Vero> no further answer from James
11:31:35 <Vero> Thierry: Silvia has sent some answers to his emails and she proposed to fill in some of the info we would need in the table
11:31:53 <Vero> ... first will check out if James comes to TPAC
11:32:20 <Vero> ... if no answer do we consider that he agrees?
11:32:47 <Vero> ... James is the only one with formal objection
11:34:26 <Vero> ... we could wait that we have the WebM container mapping information provided by Silvia and point him to this table
11:35:00 <Vero> ... and ask him then for his approval, stating that we think that we have covered his request
11:35:36 <Vero> action Thierry to check out with Silvia about  the WebM container mapping table
11:35:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-326 - Check out with Silvia about  the WebM container mapping table [on Thierry Michel - due 2010-10-26].
11:36:17 <Vero> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0242.html
11:36:26 <Vero> still ongoing, have to check out
11:37:10 <tmichel> As of today James Salsman is not registered at TPAC
11:44:37 <tmichel> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0077.html
11:44:37 <Vero> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Sep/0246.html
11:44:41 <Zakim> -Vero
11:46:01 <Zakim> +Vero
11:46:53 <Vero> Thierry: does not have any response to the latest emails
11:48:03 <Vero> Joakim: will resolve the ongoing formal objection the same way as for the other of his formal objections
11:48:25 <Vero> Raphael: can we conteact him by another mean than email?
11:48:39 <Vero> Thierry: can ivite him to a telecon or tpac
11:49:00 <Vero> s/conteact/contact/
11:49:25 <Vero> Joakim: we also have to coordinate with Doug, Wonsuk, Joakim and Chris
11:49:39 <Vero> ... have not found proper time slot yet
11:50:33 <Vero> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-media-annotation/2010Oct/0088.html
11:53:15 <Vero> Joakim: will send an email to API editors, propose 2 options this week
11:53:30 <Vero> ... otherwise next telecon or TPAC
11:53:51 <Vero> ... Doug should send a draft scenario, which we did not get yet
11:54:55 <Vero> ITEM: discuss the TPAC agenda
11:55:32 <Vero> Joakim: we do not have a draft yet
11:55:44 <Vero> Thierry: I can send a draft tomorrow
11:56:04 <Vero> Joakim: I can help you finilize it
11:56:29 <Vero> RSS Agent, draft minutes
11:56:42 <Zakim> -Felix
11:57:05 <Joakim> Bye bye!
11:57:09 <Vero> RSSAgent, draft minutes
11:57:27 <raphael> RRSAgent, draft minutes
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11:57:32 <Joakim> rrsagent, draft minutes
11:57:32 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html Joakim
11:57:37 <raphael> RRSAgent, make logs public
11:57:41 <raphael> RRSAgent, draft minutes
11:57:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-mediaann-minutes.html raphael
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11:58:11 <raphael> zakim, who is here?
11:58:11 <Zakim> On the phone I see joakim, raphael, Vero
11:58:12 <Zakim> On IRC I see fsasaki, tmichel, RRSAgent, Zakim, Vero, daniel, raphael, trackbot
11:58:14 <Zakim> -Vero
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12:19:10 <Zakim> IA_MAWG()7:00AM has ended
12:19:11 <Zakim> Attendees were joakim, Vero, +33.9.53.85.aaaa, +34.93.00.aabb, raphael, Felix
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