13:26:31 RRSAgent has joined #bpwg 13:26:31 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-bpwg-irc 13:26:33 RRSAgent, make logs public 13:26:33 Zakim has joined #bpwg 13:26:35 Zakim, this will be BPWG 13:26:35 ok, trackbot; I see MWI_BPWG()9:30AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes 13:26:36 Meeting: Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group Teleconference 13:26:36 Date: 19 October 2010 13:27:07 Chair: Jo 13:27:20 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-bpwg/2010Oct/0004.html 13:28:06 zakim,code? 13:28:06 the conference code is 2794 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), adam 13:28:21 MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has now started 13:28:28 + +1.585.475.aaaa 13:28:40 zakim, aaaa is me 13:28:41 + +44.207.881.aabb 13:28:41 +jeffs; got it 13:28:48 zakim, aabb is me 13:28:48 +adam; got it 13:29:37 + +44.203.141.aacc 13:29:44 zakim, aacc is me 13:29:44 +jo; got it 13:30:23 +francois 13:30:24 EdC has joined #bpwg 13:31:12 zakim, mute me 13:31:12 francois should now be muted 13:32:31 + +41.31.972.aadd 13:33:04 zakim, aadd is EdC 13:33:04 +EdC; got it 13:33:11 zakim, aadd is EdC 13:33:11 sorry, jo, I do not recognize a party named 'aadd' 13:33:13 one of our graduate students (Yerbol Yembergenov) is getting ready to start up with the SVG WG, and if no one minds he will be observing today's BPWG WG meeting 13:33:20 ack me 13:33:45 +Kai_Dietrich 13:33:58 zakim, mute me 13:33:58 francois should now be muted 13:34:28 Kai has joined #bpwg 13:34:39 SeanP has joined #bpwg 13:35:31 + +1.630.414.aaee 13:35:35 yes 13:35:42 zakim, aaee is SeanP 13:35:42 +SeanP; got it 13:36:17 one of our graduate students (Yerbol Yembergenov) is getting ready to start up with the SVG WG, and if no one minds he will be observing today's BPWG WG meeting 13:36:25 scribe: francois 13:36:34 Topic: Observer 13:36:46 jo: Jeff has an observer. Any objection to that? 13:36:49 [none heard] 13:37:01 Topic: Charter extension 13:37:25 jo: Good news is that transition of MWABP to Proposed Recommendation has been approved. 13:37:40 ... Congratulations to the group and the editor, Adam! 13:37:44 ack me 13:39:25 francois: @@short discussion on PR 13:39:29 zakim, mute me 13:39:29 francois should now be muted 13:39:51 jo: in short, Adam, you may not entirely be done, beware! 13:40:25 ... One thing is sure, the PR review period will go after our charter end date (end of this month). 13:40:51 ... What I propose is that we request extension to the end of the year. 13:40:52 ack me 13:41:23 zakim, mute me 13:41:23 francois should now be muted 13:41:39 francois: No need to meet, no need to have calls indeed during the PR review period. 13:41:53 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The BPWG requests extension of its charter to 13:41:53 2010-12-31 solely in order to allow Mobile Web Application Best Practices 13:41:53 to complete its transition to Rec. The WG does not intend to meet other than to review any pR comments and resolve them. 13:41:55 ... We'll precise that charter extension is solely to assist MWABP to rec 13:42:11 +1 13:42:13 +1 13:42:14 +1 13:42:17 +1 13:42:22 +1 13:42:23 +1 13:42:25 RESOLUTION: The BPWG requests extension of its charter to 2010-12-31 solely in order to allow Mobile Web Application Best Practices to complete its transition to Rec. The WG does not intend to meet other than to review any PR comments and resolve them. 13:42:33 +1 13:42:45 jo: Great! (Copyright DKA©2010) 13:43:08 Topic: Guidelines for Web Content Transformation Proxies 13:43:22 jo: We are to publish the guidelines as a WG Note. 13:43:38 +1 for CT Guidelines for publication as a WG Note 13:43:42 ... francois and I have prepared the updated draft. Only nits in the Status of this document section. 13:43:53 -> http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/TaskForces/CT/editors-drafts/Guidelines/NOTE-ct-guidelines-20101026/ Latest draft of CT guidelines 13:44:20 Most important changes: 13:44:23 [[ The Mobile Web Best Practices Working Group eventually resolved to discontinue the work on this document and to publish it as a Working Group Note. The Working Group hopes that this Note may serve as a basis for discussion and negotiation among players. 13:44:23 Other than changes to this section, the document has not changed since its publication as a W3C Candidate Recommendation. In particular, the use of normative language has been kept as-is. ]] 13:44:32 ack me 13:45:16 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The BPWG requests publication of the CT Guidelines dated 18 October 2010 as a WG Note 13:45:20 +1 13:45:23 +1 13:45:28 +1 13:45:28 +1 works for me as written 13:45:29 jo: If everyone agrees here, I suggest we simply resolve to publish that draft as a WG Note. 13:45:37 +1 13:45:42 +1 13:45:53 RESOLUTION: The BPWG requests publication of the CT Guidelines dated 18 October 2010 as a WG Note 13:46:07 jo: So CT Guidelines done. 13:46:14 ... Anything else on that topic? 13:46:17 [none heard] 13:46:21 Topic: AOB 13:46:34 jo: As mentioned on the agenda, we are basically done. 13:46:43 ... waiting for comments on the MWABP PR 13:47:14 ... I suggest that we don't meet in the meantime. 13:47:21 Informal gathering? 13:47:34 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: The WG will not meet again unless there are comments arising from the PR period on MWABP 13:47:58 +1 13:47:59 +1 13:48:00 +1 13:48:00 +1 13:48:01 +1 13:48:09 RESOLUTION: The WG will not meet again unless there are comments arising from the PR period on MWABP 13:48:51 jo: My heart is filled with sorrow for having to put an end to this, as well as joy! 13:49:07 ACTION-1035? 13:49:07 ACTION-1035 -- Daniel Appelquist to create a plan to raise awareness on mobileOK through some campaign -- due 2009-12-18 -- OPEN 13:49:07 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1035 13:49:36 ACTION-1073? 13:49:36 ACTION-1073 -- Jo Rabin to talk with Francois about what is needed to enact the above resolution on CT Guidelines -- due 2010-10-05 -- OPEN 13:49:36 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1073 13:49:41 jo: Looking at remaining actions. Dan requested that we left action-1035 open, probably as a memorial of some kind. 13:49:52 ... next action is done. 13:49:56 close ACTION-1073 13:49:56 ACTION-1073 Talk with Francois about what is needed to enact the above resolution on CT Guidelines closed 13:50:09 Jo: Jumping to actions that are pending reviews 13:50:14 ACTION-1072? 13:50:14 ACTION-1072 -- François Daoust to prepare distribution of comments for BP2. -- due 2010-10-05 -- PENDINGREVIEW 13:50:14 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1072 13:50:17 close ACTION-1072 13:50:17 ACTION-1072 Prepare distribution of comments for BP2. closed 13:50:22 ACTION-1074? 13:50:22 ACTION-1074 -- François Daoust to send transition request to PR for MWABP -- due 2010-10-05 -- PENDINGREVIEW 13:50:22 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1074 13:50:26 close ACTION-1074 13:50:26 ACTION-1074 Send transition request to PR for MWABP closed 13:50:40 jo: And that, my dears, should be it. 13:50:49 ... No open issues. 13:51:09 ... Looking back at actions. 13:51:11 ACTION-1? 13:51:11 ACTION-1 -- Dean Jackson to test action - ignore -- due 2005-07-17 -- CLOSED 13:51:11 http://www.w3.org/2005/MWI/BPWG/Group/track/actions/1 13:51:40 jo: First action was on 17 July 2005, and we went all the way to action 1074. Great! 13:51:58 ... Are there any business of any sort you'd like to discuss? 13:52:05 Topic: Informal gathering 13:52:21 jo: Kai, you're the party guy, what do you suggest? :) 13:52:41 kai: nothing in particular, did you have anything in mind? 13:53:00 jo: not really, it's not in our power to request another meeting, unfortunately. 13:54:05 ... let's leave that as an open thought 13:54:33 jo: I'd like to add some personal thanks on record. 13:54:44 +1 to applause for W3C team members Dom and Francois 13:54:47 +1 13:54:56 ... First of all, I'd like to thank Dom and Francois for their fantastic support from W3C side. 13:54:57 +1 13:54:59 +1, well done and thank you so much! 13:55:03 [fd: merci!] 13:55:12 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: WG would like to thank FD and preceding Team Reps, especially Dom for their unparalleled support 13:55:21 +1 13:55:22 +1 13:55:23 +1 13:55:30 RESOLUTION: WG would like to thank FD and preceding Team Reps, especially Dom for their unparalleled support 13:56:37 jo: Secondly, I'd like to thank Eduardo and Tom Hume to have contributed as Invited Experts. Eduardo, I'd really like to thank you for the quality of your consistent technical comments 13:56:43 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: WG expresses its sincere thanks to EdC and Tom for their contributions to the WG 13:56:45 +1 13:56:46 +1 13:56:47 +1 13:56:49 +1 13:56:50 +1 13:57:14 RESOLUTION: WG expresses its sincere thanks to EdC and Tom for their contributions to the WG as Invited Experts 13:57:41 jo: With that, I'd like to thank my colleague Dan Appelquist, and I think we're done! 13:57:55 Kai: well, not quite. We'd like to thank you as well! 13:58:05 many thanks to Jo and Dan for their great work keeping the meetings productive and on-track without losing their great senses of humor 13:58:18 [thanks!] 13:58:23 EdC yes! 13:58:28 PROPOSED RESOLUTION: WG expresses its sincere thanks to Dan and Jo to have lead the boat from start to end! 13:58:33 +1 13:58:35 +1 13:58:36 +1 13:58:41 +1 13:58:43 +1 13:58:45 you won't get off that easily :-) 13:58:49 +1 13:58:56 RESOLUTION: WG expresses its sincere thanks to Dan and Jo to have lead the boat from start to end! 13:59:32 -jeffs 13:59:36 -jo 13:59:37 -SeanP 13:59:37 -francois 13:59:38 -Kai_Dietrich 13:59:44 -adam 13:59:46 -EdC 13:59:46 MWI_BPWG()9:30AM has ended 13:59:48 Attendees were +1.585.475.aaaa, +44.207.881.aabb, jeffs, adam, +44.203.141.aacc, jo, francois, +41.31.972.aadd, EdC, Kai_Dietrich, +1.630.414.aaee, SeanP 13:59:52 jo: No further calls from the time being. 14:00:01 [call adjourned] 14:01:17 RRSAgent, draft minutes 14:01:17 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/19-bpwg-minutes.html francois 14:33:01 jo has left #bpwg 15:48:45 RRSAgent, bye 15:48:45 I see no action items