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16:18:48 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
16:18:48 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 12 minutes
16:19:03 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:19:11 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
16:19:19 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:19:20 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:19:21 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:19:43 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Oct/0003.html
16:19:47 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix
16:19:52 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:19:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:20:18 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:20:25 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:20:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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16:29:32 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
16:29:39 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
16:29:43 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
16:29:50 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:29:50 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:29:51 <Zakim> +Richard
16:30:12 <Zakim> +Mati
16:30:27 <Zakim> +David
16:31:28 <Zakim> +??P30
16:31:38 <kennyluck> Zakim, ??P30 is kennyluck
16:31:38 <Zakim> +kennyluck; got it
16:33:08 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
16:33:23 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:33:32 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:33:58 <aphillip> David: set up doodle poll for when this meeting will be held following dst transition 
16:33:59 <aphillip> DONE
16:34:11 <aphillip> richard: file 'translate' attribute request as a bug with HTML5 
16:34:15 <aphillip> DONE (yawn)
16:34:25 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:35:05 <aphillip> Unicode Version 6.0 has been released
16:35:17 <aphillip> the text next year, but the data is now posted
16:35:34 <aphillip> richard: UniView 6.0 has been updated, including all of the images
16:35:38 <aphillip> IUC34 next week
16:35:46 <aphillip> richard looks forward to writing his talk
16:36:06 <aphillip> http://www.unicodeconference.org/conference-at-a-glance.htm
16:36:28 <aphillip> addison: my have regrets next week: talking about IRIs there
16:36:38 <kennyluck> q+
16:36:46 <aphillip> ack kennyluck
16:36:59 <aphillip> Welcome Kenny to our group
16:37:15 <David> zakim, mute David
16:37:15 <Zakim> David should now be muted
16:37:19 <aphillip> kenny: taiwanese, interested in CJK issues, especially CSS
16:37:23 <aphillip> team member
16:37:34 <aphillip> kenny: unicode 6 has emoji
16:37:58 <aphillip> ... listening to talk about emoji and issue that Earth symbol---which country in the middle?
16:38:21 <aphillip> ... (joking) need variant selector for which country in the middle
16:39:42 <aphillip> richard: another new member who may work with JLTF
16:40:06 <aphillip> Topic: What time is this call at?
16:40:28 <r12a> Koan-Sin Tan , ITRI
16:40:35 <aphillip> ... is the new member
16:40:48 <David> Zakim, unmute me
16:40:48 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
16:40:49 <r12a> "ITRI is involved in EPUB
16:40:49 <r12a> stuff and want work with people interested in vertical-writing mode
16:40:49 <r12a> to push the progress of CSS writing modes and other stuff a bit, so
16:40:49 <r12a> that we can have standard conformed ebooks. 
16:40:49 <r12a> "
16:40:52 <aphillip> ... related to ePub group
16:41:19 <aphillip> Topic: What time is this call at?
16:41:25 <David> http://doodle.com/participation.html?pollId=fhnhyyfm84fnyshy
16:41:55 <aphillip> four time slots tied in the top tier
16:42:01 <r12a> Regrets: Norbert, Felix
16:42:10 <aphillip> ... but only one is not blocked at all
16:42:16 <aphillip> Wednesday 1500 UTC
16:43:32 <aphillip> ... appears to be the top non-blocked vote getter
16:43:41 <aphillip> ... Asia at a disadvantage here
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16:44:11 <aphillip> other top times
16:44:17 <aphillip> 1400 and 1900Z on Wednesday
16:44:22 <aphillip> 1800 Tuesday
16:44:24 <Zakim> + +972.2.993.aaaa
16:45:17 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:45:17 <Zakim> sorry, Aharon, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
16:46:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
16:46:53 <aphillip> Topic: Widgets
16:47:05 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010OctDec/0068.html
16:47:08 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:47:08 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:47:22 <David> zakim, mute me
16:47:22 <Zakim> David should now be muted
16:49:59 <aphillip> addison introduces topic...
16:51:13 <aphillip> addison: propose...
16:51:23 <aphillip> 1. support Marcos's solution of returning LocalizedString
16:51:36 <aphillip> 2. ask again for means of obtaining locale
16:52:02 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010OctDec/0024.html
16:53:18 <r12a> yay
16:53:22 <aphillip> addison: support proposal?
16:53:31 <Aharon> seems ok
16:53:47 <matial> +1
16:54:02 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: reply to widgets in favor of Marcos's solution and asking for locale to be returned to the API
16:54:15 <aphillip> Topic: DOM3 Events
16:54:35 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
16:54:35 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
16:55:17 <aphillip> aharon: raised this issue already?
16:56:02 <aphillip> addison: need to check if they did it as "feature at risk" or not, believe we need to raise as issue
16:56:06 <aphillip> ... need to check on it
16:56:27 <aphillip> aharon: should it be event or global object or both?
16:57:44 <aphillip> ACTION: aharon: check DOM3 events to see if they have included our issue about keyboard locale
16:57:57 <aphillip> Topic: Review HTML5
16:59:03 <aphillip> aharon: items closed were iffy items and don't feel that they are likely to be in HTML spec as a result
16:59:09 <aphillip> .. line separator and scroll bars and such
16:59:32 <aphillip> aharon: ubi, dir are not being rejected as of now, but useful discussion
16:59:53 <aphillip> ... should have opinion on whether attribute or element etc.
17:01:04 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/html5-bidi/
17:01:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
17:01:59 <aphillip> aharon: at least eight issues still under consideration
17:02:41 <aphillip> richard: some items accepted
17:04:18 <aphillip> addison: let's make sure we review the closed list
17:05:04 <aphillip> ACTION: addison: propose time for some facetime at IUC34 to review HTML progress
17:05:30 <aphillip> richard: raised some other bugs
17:05:34 <aphillip> ... one was wontfixed
17:05:40 <aphillip> ... exception for UTF-16
17:05:49 <aphillip> ... to allow it in charset= in <meta>
17:06:04 <aphillip> ... Henri S objected, Hixie wants to close
17:07:11 <aphillip> ... no in-document declaration other than BOM in UTF-16
17:07:24 <aphillip> ... we think this is a problem because can't visually inspect
17:11:06 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
17:11:06 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
17:11:09 <Zakim> -Aharon
17:13:52 <Zakim> +Aharon
17:14:10 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
17:14:10 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
17:19:44 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
17:19:44 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
17:19:45 <aphillip> table utf-16 issue for later consideration
17:20:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
17:20:27 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:20:35 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
17:20:35 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
17:20:40 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010OctDec/0070.html
17:22:04 <David> zakim, unmute me
17:22:04 <Zakim> David should no longer be muted
17:22:15 <Zakim> -Gwyneth
17:22:18 <Zakim> -aphillip
17:22:19 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
17:22:19 <Zakim> -Aharon
17:22:21 <Zakim> -David
17:22:23 <Zakim> -Mati
17:22:29 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:22:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
17:22:30 <Zakim> -Richard
17:22:34 <kennyluck> Zakim, drop kennyluck.
17:22:34 <Zakim> kennyluck is being disconnected
17:22:35 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
17:22:36 <Zakim> Attendees were Richard, aphillip, Gwyneth, Mati, David, kennyluck, [IPcaller], +972.2.993.aaaa, Aharon
17:24:18 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:24:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
17:24:25 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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17:24:29 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
17:24:29 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-actions.rdf :
17:24:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: reply to widgets in favor of Marcos's solution and asking for locale to be returned to the API [1]
17:24:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-irc#T16-54-02
17:24:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: aharon: check DOM3 events to see if they have included our issue about keyboard locale [2]
17:24:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-irc#T16-57-44
17:24:29 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: propose time for some facetime at IUC34 to review HTML progress [3]
17:24:29 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/13-i18n-irc#T17-05-04