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12:57:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn 
12:57:25 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs; I see INC_SSN()9:00AM scheduled to start in 3 minutes
12:57:42 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has now started
12:57:49 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
12:58:11 <Zakim> +??P2
12:58:28 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim +??P2 is me
12:58:32 <Payam> zakim, IPCaller is me
12:58:32 <Zakim> +Payam; got it
12:58:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, +??P2 is me
12:58:38 <Zakim> sorry, laurent_lefort_cs, I do not recognize a party named '+??P2'
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12:59:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, IPCaller is me
12:59:59 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
13:00:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:  SSN XG
13:00:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair: Laurent
13:01:46 <Zakim> +??P5
13:02:18 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Oct/0002.html
13:02:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/09/29-ssn-minutes.html
13:04:04 <Zakim> + +1.937.775.aaaa
13:04:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets: Raul, Oscar, Kevin, Alexandre, Myriam, Andriy, Kerry, Amit
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13:05:01 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets+: Michael
13:05:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Arthur
13:06:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Status of report
13:06:55 <Payam> it looks nice!
13:07:15 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Incubator_Report
13:07:28 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Work_on_the_SSN_ontology
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13:09:57 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Review_of_Sensor_and_Observations_Ontologies#Sensei_Observation_and_Measurement_Ontology
13:11:06 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: some ontology reviews are not described using the questionar (we used for reviewing). So those need to be put into same format.
13:12:03 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Ontology_Scope
13:13:53 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Ontology_Structure
13:14:55 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: the picture (http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Ontology_Scope) shows the use of the ontology by the different use cases
13:15:19 <Payam> This page is very clear with the new figures
13:15:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Upper
13:16:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Model
13:16:53 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: using proces as a specification of a menthod
13:16:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Sensor
13:17:40 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: this one is finished too.
13:18:18 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Observation
13:18:40 <Arthur> action: laurent_lefort_cs to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor
13:18:40 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - laurent_lefort_cs
13:19:14 <Payam> bottom of the page- the figure has question makrs??
13:19:20 <Payam> is this correct?
13:19:21 <Zakim> +??P0
13:19:22 <Arthur> action: laurent to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor
13:19:22 <trackbot> Created ACTION-60 - Remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-10-19].
13:19:50 <Payam> same the bullet points shoud go
13:20:41 <laurent_lefort_cs> Put three dots
13:21:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Deploy
13:22:06 <Payam> deploy- there is a mistake in the last example snippet : XMLSchema#string">21 μA</DUL:hasDataValue>
13:22:29 <Payam> it shoud be aligned with DOLCE unit and value
13:22:42 <Payam> I must fix it :)
13:23:08 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Base
13:24:05 <Arthur> action: to Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value
13:24:05 <trackbot> Sorry, couldn't find user - to
13:24:16 <Arthur> action: Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value
13:24:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-61 - Fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [on Payam Barnaghi - due 2010-10-19].
13:24:52 <Payam> +q
13:25:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack payam
13:25:19 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: condition example is important because it is tricky to use 
13:27:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Module_Data
13:28:03 <Payam> I think a short description and link to data papge will do
13:28:13 <Payam> s/papge /page
13:29:09 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: two other parts are missing energy and communication
13:29:29 <Payam> +q
13:29:36 <laurent_lefort_cs> Ack Payam
13:30:18 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:SSN-kitchen-example-obs-value.jpg
13:30:52 <Arthur> Payam: we should not add to many details like this to the ontology, some examples using this parts would be enough.
13:31:40 <Payam> if the figure is updated; I will also add the text - I agree with a simpler example
13:32:43 <Payam> agree!
13:33:08 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Uni_deployment
13:33:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Smart_product
13:33:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Agriculture_Meteorology_Sensor_Network
13:35:21 <pramod> hi this is Amit
13:35:27 <pramod> see http://knoesis.org/library/resource.php?id=780
13:35:36 <pramod> there is a prior work on Linked Sensor Data 
13:35:40 <Payam> this is good that we have examples with different levels of granularity...
13:36:02 <Arthur> Arthur: I think it makes sense to keep the lanency class since it is directly related to the sensor readings. All the other comunication ralated things can be offered by another specialized communication ontolgy when needed.
13:36:28 <pramod> there is also 1.7billion triple we have already posted 
13:36:33 <pramod> whivh is part of linked sensor data
13:37:57 <pramod> here is the data: http://wiki.knoesis.org/index.php/LinkedSensorData
13:39:53 <Payam> it is good to add a reference to Amit's paper in this page to demonstrate an application of annotated sensor data in this field; ?
13:40:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Agriculture_Meteorology_Sensor_Network
13:44:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Wind_Sensor
13:46:13 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: this page gives an overview how to use our ontology with different level of details
13:48:17 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: things these parts are ready to be reviewed
13:48:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Review organisation
13:48:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43337/SSN-XGR-Review/
13:59:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/43337/SSN-XGR-Review/results
14:02:33 <Arthur> +q
14:02:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Arthur
14:03:36 <Payam> +q
14:03:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
14:04:55 <Payam> +q
14:05:05 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack payam
14:09:30 <Arthur> Discussion on what parts of the review should go to the wiki and whap part to the qustionary
14:12:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> 3 types of entries 
14:12:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> - minor changes directly through the wiki wiki
14:12:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> - major changes through bottom of wiki page or mailing list (same as currently)
14:12:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> - reviewer evaluation of coompletness .. through the questionnaire (to avoid indexing by google - access is limited to XG members)
14:12:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/coomlet/complet/
14:12:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Status of section 5
14:16:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Report_Conclusion_and_Recommendations
14:21:17 <Zakim> - +1.937.775.aaaa
14:21:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> Thanks evryone
14:21:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/evryone/everyone/
14:21:58 <Payam> thanks and bye!
14:22:00 <Zakim> -Arthur
14:22:04 <Zakim> -Payam
14:23:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
14:23:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:23:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:24:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
14:24:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/questionar/questionnaire/
14:25:47 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Laurent to re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments
14:25:47 <trackbot> Created ACTION-62 - Re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-10-19].
14:26:14 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/proces as/process as/
14:26:34 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/menthod/method/
14:27:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/makrs/marks/
14:27:43 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/lanency/latency/
14:28:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/whivh/which/
14:28:24 <Zakim> -??P0
14:28:37 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/whap/what/
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14:29:06 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/coomplet/complet/
14:29:30 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:29:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:30:40 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/billion triple/billion triples/
14:31:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/comunication ralated/communication related/
14:31:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/ontolgy/ontology /
14:31:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/field; ?/field./
14:32:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:32:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:32:28 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/qustionary/questionnaire/
14:32:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/completness/completness, quality/
14:33:03 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:33:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:33:24 <Zakim> disconnecting the lone participant, laurent_lefort_cs, in INC_SSN()9:00AM
14:33:28 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has ended
14:33:30 <Zakim> Attendees were Payam, laurent_lefort_cs, Arthur, +1.937.775.aaaa
14:34:09 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets- Amit
14:34:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:34:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:34:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/Kerry, Amit/Kerry/
14:34:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:34:54 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:35:39 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/+1.937.775.aaaa/Cory, Amit/
14:35:47 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:35:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:36:39 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/laurent_lefort_cs/Laurent/
14:36:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
14:36:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:37:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please generate minutes
14:37:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
14:41:54 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, bye
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14:42:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bye
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-actions.rdf :
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: laurent_lefort_cs to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [1]
14:42:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-irc#T13-18-40
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: laurent to remove a bullet point from SSN Sensor [2]
14:42:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-irc#T13-19-22
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: to Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [3]
14:42:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-irc#T13-24-05
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Payam to fix the example to use DOLCE unit and value [4]
14:42:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-irc#T13-24-16
14:42:02 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Laurent to re-create the questionnaire to record reviewers participation and non-public comments [5]
14:42:02 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/10/12-ssn-irc#T14-25-47