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19:58:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be WAI_WCAG
19:58:15 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_WCAG()4:00PM scheduled to start in 2 minutes
19:58:16 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Content Accessibility Guidelines Working Group Teleconference
19:58:16 <trackbot> Date: 30 September 2010
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19:59:27 <Zakim> WAI_WCAG()4:00PM has now started
19:59:33 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
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20:00:02 <Zakim> + +1.410.972.aaaa
20:00:12 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
20:00:43 <jamesn> zakim, Oracle is James_Nurthen
20:00:43 <Zakim> +James_Nurthen; got it
20:01:03 <Zakim> + +1.774.316.aabb
20:01:07 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
20:01:23 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:01:32 <MichaelC> zakim, aaaa is Drew_LaHart
20:01:32 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
20:01:35 <Zakim> +David_MacDonald
20:01:37 <Zakim> +Wendy
20:01:38 <Zakim> + +1.650.214.aacc
20:01:43 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Mary_Utt
20:01:43 <Zakim> +Mary_Utt; got it
20:01:54 <MichaelC> zakim, aacc is Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:01:54 <Zakim> +Loretta_Guarino_Reid; got it
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20:02:16 <MichaelC> zakim, who's on the phone?
20:02:16 <Zakim> On the phone I see James_Nurthen, Drew_LaHart, Bruce_Bailey, Mary_Utt, Michael_Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, David_MacDonald, Wendy, Loretta_Guarino_Reid
20:02:40 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:03:18 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/w3c-wai-gl/2010JulSep/0074.html
20:03:32 <Zakim> +Andrew_Kirkpatrick
20:03:43 <MichaelC> regrets: Chris_Beer
20:03:59 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
20:04:18 <MichaelC> zakim, Microsoft is Wolf_Schmidt
20:04:18 <Zakim> +Wolf_Schmidt; got it
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20:05:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:06:42 <bengtf3> this is bengt
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20:07:00 <Zakim> + +1.703.761.aadd
20:07:02 <MichaelC> zakim, IPcaller is Bengt_Farre
20:07:02 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
20:07:06 <Drew_LaHart> scribe: Drew
20:07:14 <MichaelC> zakim, aadd is Katie_Haritos-Shea
20:07:14 <Zakim> +Katie_Haritos-Shea; got it
20:09:22 <Zakim> -Drew_LaHart
20:09:25 <Zakim> + +1.443.494.aaee
20:09:41 <MichaelC> zakim, aaee is Drew_LaHart
20:09:41 <Zakim> +Drew_LaHart; got it
20:11:25 <Drew_LaHart> Topic: Document updates
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20:16:23 <Drew_LaHart> Resolution: Publish latest version of Understanding WCAG 2.0 and Techniques for WCAG 2.0 Document as modified by the Working Group
20:16:50 <Zakim> + +1.425.822.aaff
20:18:12 <Drew_LaHart> Topic: SC 3.2.1 and Survey PopUps
20:44:40 <Loretta> zakim, who is making noise?
20:44:50 <Zakim> Loretta, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (5%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (31%)
20:49:58 <Drew_LaHart> Resolution: The violation is of AAA 3.2.5, we will add this to the errata list of things to be considered for the next version of WCAG. It is not the consent of the working group that this violates 3.2.1
20:51:50 <Loretta> add this -> add consideration of an additional SC covering this type of situation
20:54:29 <Drew_LaHart> s/we will add this to the errata list of things to be considered for the next version of WCAG/The working group will consider adding an additional SC covering this type of situation
20:57:44 <MichaelC> me /me 
20:58:30 <Drew_LaHart> Resolution: Discuss adding new SC to address issue of popup web components, overlays or viewports that are not triggered by user action
21:00:18 <AWK> brb
21:00:26 <Drew_LaHart> Action: Katie to write up a new failure relating to popups, overlays, and viewports.
21:00:26 <trackbot> Created ACTION-111 - Write up a new failure relating to popups, overlays, and viewports. [on Katie Haritos-Shea - due 2010-10-07].
21:01:20 <Zakim> -Wendy
21:03:04 <Drew_LaHart> Topic: Sufficient PDF Technique for SC 3.1.4: Providing definitions for abbreviations by setting expansion text
21:05:34 <AWK> back
21:14:54 <jamesn> zakim, who is noisy?
21:15:06 <Zakim> jamesn, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Mary_Utt (41%)
21:18:35 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:20:21 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
21:21:32 <Zakim> +??P2
21:21:59 <bengtf3> zakim, ??P2 is Bengt_Farre
21:21:59 <Zakim> +Bengt_Farre; got it
21:23:33 <Loretta> Providing definitions for abbreviations by Providing an E entry in the structure element dictionary of a structure element
21:23:47 <Zakim> + +1.608.721.aagg
21:24:09 <MichaelC> zakim, aagg is Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:24:09 <Zakim> +Gregg_Vanderheiden; got it
21:24:43 <David> scribe: David
21:26:19 <jamesn> zakim, who is noisy?
21:26:32 <Zakim> jamesn, listening for 12 seconds I heard sound from the following: Andrew_Kirkpatrick (23%), Gregg_Vanderheiden (100%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (20%), Wolf_Schmidt (12%)
21:26:39 <Loretta> Providing definitions for abbreviations via an E entry for a structure element
21:26:45 <jamesn> zakim, mute Gregg
21:26:45 <Zakim> Gregg_Vanderheiden should now be muted
21:27:53 <jamesn> zakim, who is noisy?
21:28:03 <Zakim> jamesn, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: James_Nurthen (7%), David_MacDonald (50%), Loretta_Guarino_Reid (9%)
21:28:07 <Zakim> +Bruce_Bailey
21:28:34 <David> resolution: accept as amended (including new title) Sufficient PDF Technique for SC 1.1.1: Hiding decorative images in PDF
21:29:16 <David> s/PDF/PDF new title Providing definitions for abbreviations via an E entry for a structure element
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21:29:17 <Zakim> -Andrew_Kirkpatrick
21:29:20 <Zakim> -Katie_Haritos-Shea
21:29:22 <Zakim> -sofia_celic
21:29:23 <Zakim> -James_Nurthen
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21:29:25 <Zakim> -Wolf_Schmidt
21:29:27 <Zakim> -Bruce_Bailey
21:29:29 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
21:29:30 <Zakim> -Bengt_Farre
21:29:32 <Zakim> -David_MacDonald
21:29:36 <Zakim> -Mary_Utt
21:29:40 <Zakim> -Gregg_Vanderheiden
21:30:09 <MichaelC> chair: Loretta_Guarino_Reid
21:30:12 <MichaelC> rrsagent, end meeting
21:30:12 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'end meeting', MichaelC.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
21:30:21 <MichaelC> trackbot, end meeting
21:30:21 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
21:30:21 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been +1.410.972.aaaa, Bruce_Bailey, James_Nurthen, +1.774.316.aabb, Michael_Cooper, Andrew_Kirkpatrick, Drew_LaHart, David_MacDonald, Wendy,
21:30:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
21:30:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/30-wai-wcag-minutes.html trackbot
21:30:23 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
21:30:23 <RRSAgent> I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/30-wai-wcag-actions.rdf :
21:30:23 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Katie to write up a new failure relating to popups, overlays, and viewports. [1]
21:30:23 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/30-wai-wcag-irc#T21-00-26
21:30:25 <Zakim> ... +1.650.214.aacc, Mary_Utt, Loretta_Guarino_Reid, Wolf_Schmidt, +1.703.761.aadd, Bengt_Farre, Katie_Haritos-Shea, +1.443.494.aaee, sofia_celic, +1.608.721.aagg,
21:30:27 <Zakim> ... Gregg_Vanderheiden
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