IRC log of html-a11y on 2010-09-29

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22:34:45 [Judy]
all: initial look through of sean's mapping to wcag 2 a, aa, aaa
22:35:07 [Judy]
http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Media_Accessibility_Checklist#Technical_Requirements_Prioritizations_and_Dependencies
22:35:12 [Judy]
(the link again)
22:35:31 [Judy]
jb: pls remind me the source of the must/should/may
22:35:37 [Judy]
jf: my informal review
22:35:51 [Judy]
jb: then the wcag 2 mapping should have more authority
22:36:10 [Judy]
jf: but may not be sufficient to address the importance for media
22:36:44 [Judy]
sh: my sense as well is that because we're dealing with increased granularity here, the results may be different
22:37:08 [Judy]
jf: is there some validity with my gut reaction must/should/may assignments?
22:37:25 [Judy]
...sean did my mappings make sense to you?
22:38:01 [Judy]
sh: i didn't focus on that a lot, and a fair amount of it looked on target
22:38:11 [Judy]
jf: frank how did this look?
22:38:31 [Judy]
fo: i'll comment if I see something
22:38:57 [Judy]
kj: i'll review it as well
22:40:27 [Judy]
jf: straw poll yet?
22:40:36 [Judy]
jb: hmmm....
22:40:40 [Judy]
jb: what's the plus?
22:40:45 [Judy]
sh: going beyond....
22:42:27 [Judy]
jb: and the "tbd" -- would discussion here benefit?
22:42:34 [Judy]
sh: derived from uaag
22:45:09 [Judy]
jb: thoughts about time-sensitive coordination; could coordinate also w/ jeanne spellman and kelly ford if jim allan is not available
22:45:21 [Judy]
jb: could we be missing bugs on this
22:45:25 [Judy]
jf: good question
22:45:34 [Judy]
sh: wouldn't that be their responsibility?
22:45:43 [Judy]
jb: on this timeframe, need to work with them on this
22:46:29 [Judy]
jf: will getting the placeholder text in place help?
22:47:06 [Judy]
jb: might
22:47:33 [Judy]
jf: if text comes in after oct 1, we should be able to file bugs against new text should be able to come in by then
22:47:59 [Judy]
... to be clear, that is what i'm proposing...
22:48:34 [Judy]
jb: suggests that jf checks w/ janina
22:53:18 [Judy]
jb: on the mapping, let's nail down the follow-ups w/ uawg
22:53:21 [Judy]
jf: i will
22:53:42 [Judy]
jb: what else would accelerate this?
22:56:27 [Judy]
sh: next stage would be specifying the format?
22:56:46 [Judy]
jb: what about that straw poll that john was suggesting, maybe proceed on that afterall?
22:57:03 [Judy]
jf: yes would help vet the must/should/mays
22:57:36 [Judy]
sh? jf? : and we need the uaag input
22:57:52 [Judy]
jf: can do a straw poll before TF meeting tomorrow
22:58:12 [Judy]
jb: let's keep it moving, great
23:00:17 [Judy]
s/specifying the format?/putting columns into the table to indicate support for the granular requirements/
23:03:38 [Judy]
jb: how get those in place?
23:04:27 [Judy]
jf: two urgent things: straw poll on snapshot of must/should/may, and bug filing by friday
23:06:47 [Judy]
jb: could we plan how to get the formats in place
23:06:56 [Judy]
sh: i could plug in ttml
23:07:15 [Judy]
jb: would be good to have a model
23:07:35 [Judy]
jf: concerned about not biasing with one sample
23:07:56 [Judy]
jb: new pages for each format
23:08:05 [Judy]
s/jb/sh/
23:10:23 [Judy]
jb: wondering if we lose an opportunity to open-mindedly cross-compare
23:10:46 [Judy]
sh: wiki table is hard to work w/; perhaps condensed cross-ref table?
23:11:05 [Judy]
sh: might work
23:11:09 [Judy]
jf: might work
23:11:40 [Judy]
jf: so we create a number of new pages
23:11:53 [Judy]
sh: could create the page, may not get all the detail in
23:12:48 [Judy]
... may leave out the sections where there are gaps
23:13:04 [Judy]
jf: i'll create the cross-ref page
23:14:11 [Judy]
sh: might be difficult to show all the gaps
23:14:36 [Judy]
...focus tables on text format
23:15:35 [JF]
JF: are there any other concerns that need to be addressed today
23:16:57 [Judy]
q+
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q-
23:17:59 [Judy]
action: jb will review threads on getting spec text in
23:17:59 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-65 - Will review threads on getting spec text in [on Judy Brewer - due 2010-10-06].
23:20:22 [Judy]
zakim, who's here?
23:20:22 [Zakim]
On the phone I see no one
23:20:24 [Zakim]
On IRC I see RRSAgent, Zakim, sean, Judy, JF, MichaelC, trackbot
23:23:22 [Judy]
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confirming that we're meeting next week, and the following
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WAI_PFWG(A11Y)6:00PM has ended
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Attendees were
23:24:32 [Judy]
we may have gaps the week after next
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