14:58:07 RRSAgent has joined #a11y-bugs 14:58:07 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc 14:58:25 rrsagent, set logs world-visible 14:58:54 Marco_Ranon has joined #a11y-bugs 14:59:34 Joshue has joined #a11y-bugs 15:00:04 meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Bug-Triage Sub-Team 15:00:20 zakim, this will be 2119 15:00:20 ok, MichaelC; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM scheduled to start now 15:01:53 WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has now started 15:01:59 +??P29 15:02:03 +Michael_Cooper 15:02:21 +kliehm 15:02:22 zakim, ??P29 is Marco_Ranon 15:02:22 +Marco_Ranon; got it 15:04:13 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Sep/0577.html 15:04:23 agenda? 15:04:49 agenda+ Identify Scribe 15:04:51 agenda+ 1 October Deadline 15:04:52 agenda+ Review NEEDSINFO bugs (aka. previous homework) 15:04:54 agenda+ Assign homework for next week 15:07:01 scribe: MichaelC 15:08:10 -> http://www.w3.org/2010/09/21-a11y-bugs-minutes Minutes of 21 September 2010 meeting 15:08:27 -> http://www.w3.org/2010/09/14-a11y-bugs-minutes Minutes of 14 September 2010 meeting 15:09:45 zakim, drop item 1 15:09:45 agendum 1, Identify Scribe, dropped 15:09:50 zakim, take up item 2 15:09:50 agendum 2. "1 October Deadline" taken up [from MichaelC] 15:10:22 mk: Would like to read through spec to see if there are bugs to file before 1 Oct 15:10:40 ok, how do I dial in? 15:10:41 i'm calling zakim usa using skype 15:11:00 mc: think it's a good idea but don't see time to do it myself 15:12:11 mk: it's slightly out of scope of the bug triage team 15:12:44 joc: don't see time to troll spec for new bugs, but can respond to existing ones 15:12:48 mr: +1 15:13:30 mk: yes, also difficult for me 15:13:38 we need to consider the February deadline more than the October one 15:13:40 zakim, next item 15:13:40 agendum 3. "Review NEEDSINFO bugs (aka. previous homework)" taken up [from MichaelC] 15:14:41 Bug 8740 - How do pseudo-class selectors interact with WAI-ARIA? 15:14:54 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8740 15:16:14 == 8715 == 15:16:16 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8715 15:16:19 Josh filed bug 15:16:26 Marco recommends Josh provide additional info 15:16:57 action: Josh to provide further information in bug 8715 15:18:08 == 8722 == 15:18:10 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8722 15:20:53 perhaps should be related to other canvas bugs (has keyword but not dependencies) 15:21:35 There don't seem to be any a11y_canvas bugs? 15:23:02 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Sep/0225.html 15:24:10 Sample search for canvas http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=canvas 15:25:27 Bugzilla errors preventing us from finding the set of bugs tagged a11y_canvas 15:25:43 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y_canvas 15:29:14 We may not want to say that focus behaviour should the same for all canvas regions as for elements.? There may be some elements where we don't want this behaviour, and the spec may not need to explicitly state this. We need to understand dependencies between 10249 and 10248. 15:29:42 8722 is superceded by 10249 and 10248 15:31:35 rrsagent, make minutes 15:31:35 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MichaelC 15:32:16 == 8622 == 15:32:18 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8622 15:32:43 rrsagent, make log public 15:33:19 chair: Martin_Kliehm 15:35:11 ACTION, Josh to ping Cyns and Gez on Bug 8622 - Activation behaviour and pre-click activation 15:35:46 action: Josh to ping Cyns and Gez on Bug 8622 - Activation behaviour and pre-click activation 15:36:50 == 8645 == 15:36:52 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8645 15:40:55 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y_text-alt 15:42:28 action: Martin to review if bug 8645 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8645 is addressed by other bugs at http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y_text-alt and if so list the dependencies and mark it as verified 15:42:38 == 8740 == 15:42:39 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8740 15:45:38 The suggestion from HSivonen and Hixie is that ARIA should /not/ effect 15:48:20 action: Gez to ask PFWG about bug 8740, it needs to be addressed as an ARIA question (in coordination with CSS WG, perhaps at TPAC) and then cycled back to this bug 15:49:48 == 8885 == 15:49:50 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8885 15:52:28 II am also at a loss as to what to do here, is this the same as 15:54:18 present: Joshue_O_Connor 15:54:58 Discussed fallback content 31 August 2010 http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-a11y-bugs-minutes.html 15:59:10 action: Michael to prepare description of problem and basic proposed solution for bug 8885 - run first past bug triage team and then take to TF for consideration 15:59:48 Note, HTML chairs have indicated that new bugs that are refinements of existing bugs are likely to be accepted after the 1 October deadline, though the "bar" for acceptance gets higher as time goes on 16:00:38 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=NEEDSINFO 16:02:05 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=INVALID 16:03:49 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y&chfieldfrom=-2w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation] 16:04:16 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y&chfieldfrom=-3w&chfieldto=Now&chfield=[Bug+creation] 16:08:16 topic: Homework 16:09:14 Josh to review whether the following bugs should be should TF priorities: 10591, 10592, 10593, 10594, 10596, 10600, 10603, 10604 16:11:12 Martin to review whether the following bugs should be TF priorities: 10605, 10606, 10614, 10618, 10642, 10645, 10649, 10657 16:11:52 Michael to review whether the following bugs should be TF priorities: 10660, 10661, 10708, 10709, 10710, 10712, 10713, 10772 16:12:24 Unassigned new bugs we'll need to come back to: 10774, 10775, 10776, 10777, 10778, 10779, 10780, 10781, 10782, 10783, 10784 16:13:20 Michael to review 8171 16:13:31 Martin to review 9774 16:13:36 Josh to review 8753 16:14:03 topic: Next meeting 16:14:13 regrets from Marco, so not taking homework this week 16:14:46 Next meeting Tuesday 5 October 15:00 UTC 16:15:42 -kliehm 16:15:43 -Michael_Cooper 16:15:45 WAI_PFWG(HTML_TF)11:00AM has ended 16:15:48 Attendees were Michael_Cooper, kliehm, Marco_Ranon 16:15:51 scribeOptions: -final 16:16:00 rrsagent, make minutes 16:16:00 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MichaelC 16:19:01 present+ Joshue_O_Connor 16:19:18 rrsagent, make minutes 16:19:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-minutes.html kliehm 16:46:24 kliehm has joined #a11y-bugs 16:47:34 Zakim has left #a11y-bugs 16:47:48 rrsagent, please part 16:47:48 I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-actions.rdf : 16:47:48 ACTION: Josh to provide further information in bug 8715 [1] 16:47:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc#T15-16-57 16:47:48 ACTION: Josh to ping Cyns and Gez on Bug 8622 - Activation behaviour and pre-click activation [2] 16:47:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc#T15-35-46 16:47:48 ACTION: Martin to review if bug 8645 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8645 is addressed by other bugs at http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11y_text-alt and if so list the dependencies and mark it as verified [3] 16:47:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc#T15-42-28 16:47:48 ACTION: Gez to ask PFWG about bug 8740, it needs to be addressed as an ARIA question (in coordination with CSS WG, perhaps at TPAC) and then cycled back to this bug [4] 16:47:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc#T15-48-20 16:47:48 ACTION: Michael to prepare description of problem and basic proposed solution for bug 8885 - run first past bug triage team and then take to TF for consideration [5] 16:47:48 recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc#T15-59-10 19:58:02 RRSAgent has joined #a11y-bugs 19:58:02 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-irc 19:58:23 present: Martin_Kliehm, Michael_Cooper, Marco_Ranon, Joshue_O'Connor 19:58:29 rrsagent, make log world 19:58:32 rrsagent, make minutes 19:58:32 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/28-a11y-bugs-minutes.html MichaelC 19:58:54 rrsagent, bye 19:58:54 I see no action items