14:57:13 RRSAgent has joined #webperf 14:57:13 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-webperf-irc 14:57:21 trackbot-ng, start telcon 14:57:23 RRSAgent, make logs world 14:57:25 Zakim, this will be 14:57:25 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:57:26 Meeting: Web Performance Working Group Teleconference 14:57:26 Date: 08 September 2010 14:57:34 zakim, list conferences 14:57:34 I see W3C_OrgV(UValue)10:00AM, Team_(voip_test)14:44Z, PP_PSIG(PSIG)11:00AM, I18N_WG(MLW)10:00AM active 14:57:36 also scheduled at this time are Team_W3M(PH CADENCE)11:00AM, XML_XMLCore()11:00AM, Team_(mediaann)08:00Z, SW_HCLS(LODD)11:00AM, WAI_EOWG(BAD TF)11:00AM, W3C_(CHINA)10:00AM, 14:57:40 ... Team_W3M()8:00AM, IA_XForms()11:00AM, IA_Fonts()10:00AM, WAI_(AGE TF)9:30AM, UW_DAP()10:00AM, SW_e-Gov(Chairs)11:00AM, INC_SWXG()11:00AM 14:59:51 zakim, this will be wpwg 14:59:51 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, plh 15:00:04 zakim, this will be wperf 15:00:04 ok, plh; I see RWC_(WPWG)12:00PM scheduled to start in 60 minutes 15:54:13 zhiheng has joined #webperf 15:59:14 AndersonQuach_MSF has joined #webperf 15:59:39 AndersonQuach has joined #webperf 15:59:50 RWC_(WPWG)12:00PM has now started 15:59:53 +Plh 16:00:28 zakim, passcode? 16:00:50 the conference code is 97373 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), plh 16:01:25 +[Microsoft] 16:01:54 agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2010Aug/0031.html 16:01:58 plh has changed the topic to: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-web-perf/2010Aug/0031.html 16:02:05 Zhiheng has joined #webperf 16:02:31 + +1.650.253.aaaa 16:02:58 JasonWeber has joined #webperf 16:03:22 + +1.650.390.aabb 16:03:40 zakim, aaaa is Arvind 16:03:40 +Arvind; got it 16:03:51 zakim, aabb is Zhiheng 16:03:51 +Zhiheng; got it 16:03:56 + +1.415.829.aacc 16:04:11 zakim, aacc is Jason 16:04:11 +Jason; got it 16:04:33 zakim, Microsoft holds Jason, Nick, Anderson 16:04:33 +Jason, Nick, Anderson; got it 16:04:41 scribeNick: plh 16:04:48 Topic: Roll Call 16:06:16 Topic: Introduction of chairs, team contact and participants 16:06:32 JasonWeber: I had the chance to work with everyone on the call 16:07:26 Arvind: web timing is one of the initiatives we're interested 16:07:26 NicJansma has joined #webperf 16:07:34 plh: [...] 16:07:55 Zhiheng: my focus is on performance data structure 16:08:06 JasonSobel: trying to make the site faster 16:08:21 Anderson: focusing on performance in IE 16:08:36 Nick: dev on the IE team, focusing on performance work 16:09:08 Topic: Meeting schedule 16:09:29 Arvind: does this time work for everyone? 16:10:00 Zhiheng: I've been meeting on a weekly basis with MS already 16:10:10 Arvind: is weekly the right frequency for this group? 16:10:35 JasonWeber: we'd like to meet weekly, at least in the early deve 16:10:52 Resolution: weekly meeting, wednesday 9am PT 16:11:05 ACTION: plh to book the Zakim bridge for weekly meeting 16:11:05 Created ACTION-1 - Book the Zakim bridge for weekly meeting [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2010-09-15]. 16:11:15 Topic: F2f meeting schedule 16:11:50 JasonWeber: maybe an early meeting in the bay area 16:13:24 plh: [explanation on TPAC] 16:13:36 Jason: maybe early November is the right time frame 16:13:53 Arvind: let's try to meet in the Bay area in October 16:14:19 ACTION: plh to ask for room for TPAC 2010 16:14:19 Created ACTION-2 - Ask for room for TPAC 2010 [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2010-09-15]. 16:14:51 plh: I'm in the Bay Area on October 6 16:15:28 Arvind: I'll send an email around to settle the dates 16:16:25 Souders has joined #webperf 16:17:13 Jason: for the October meeting, let's go deep into the design, and reserve the November one for coordination 16:17:16 Topic: Editors 16:17:49 Zhiheng: Navigation Timing is in pretty good shape 16:18:05 ... some discussion about security and privacy model for resource timing 16:18:22 ... for user timing, we're still in the brainstorming phase 16:19:31 Arvind: for navigation spec, Zhiheng will be the editor. for resource and user, it will be Zhiheng and Anderson. 16:19:58 s/and user// 16:20:17 Zhiheng: we have a couple of ideas for user timing but nothing settled yet 16:20:40 JasonWeber: Anderson is ready to sign up as editor or co-editor for any of the specification 16:21:11 ... for user timing, it will also shared between Zhiheng and Anderson 16:21:34 Topic: ubmitting Web Performance Issues 16:21:42 s/ubmitting/Submitting/ 16:23:33 plh: I encourage everyone to use the tracker 16:24:49 Topic: First public working drafts 16:25:54 Arvind: first draft for navigation timing, publication after f2f 16:26:45 Zhiheng: I'd like to get some consensus among the members on some of the issues. goal for publication could be end of october as well 16:27:00 JasonWeber: sounds good to me 16:27:20 JasonWeber: User Timing is small enough that we can have a draft for October as well 16:30:14 Steve: what about other timing information? 16:30:27 JasonWeber: there are quite a few gasp like that 16:30:39 ... should try to resolve the ones in the charter first 16:31:46 Steve: only a few people in the call. there are people that will be asking for more. Don't know if there is an FAQ 16:32:21 ... it's fine to leave it for the moment, and maybe we can scramble something later on 16:32:39 ... if we get those 3 specs done, it doesn't even satisfy my first goals 16:32:55 JasonWeber: user timing was included because we had an interface for it 16:33:06 ... I look at the charter of the group as the first step 16:34:50 ... and setting up an IG for broader discussion would be good 16:35:46 ACTION: plh to setup a mercurial server for webperf 16:35:47 Created ACTION-3 - Setup a mercurial server for webperf [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2010-09-15]. 16:35:55 Topic: next week 16:36:16 Jason: objective will be to go through the documents and figure out some of the issues 16:36:53 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-webperf-minutes.html plh 16:37:27 -Jason 16:37:28 [adjourned] 16:37:28 -Arvind 16:37:32 -Plh 16:37:33 -[Microsoft] 16:37:52 zakim, drop zhiheng 16:37:52 Zhiheng is being disconnected 16:37:53 RWC_(WPWG)12:00PM has ended 16:37:55 Attendees were Plh, +1.650.253.aaaa, +1.650.390.aabb, Arvind, Zhiheng, +1.415.829.aacc, Jason, Nick, Anderson 16:37:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-webperf-minutes.html plh 16:38:15 Chair: Arvind 16:38:25 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/08-webperf-minutes.html plh 18:39:12 Zakim has left #webperf 18:43:07 plh has left #webperf