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17:23:54 <jeanne> Meeting: Gallery of Accessible Templates & Widgets, Tech Challenge 
17:24:07 <jeanne> Chair: Judy_Brewer
17:24:14 <jeanne> scribe: Jeanne_Spellman
17:24:27 <jeanne> Agendaagenda+ agenda overview
17:24:27 <jeanne> agenda+ review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal
17:24:27 <jeanne> agenda+ discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery
17:24:27 <jeanne> agenda+ mailing list options
17:24:27 <jeanne> agenda+ next meetings
17:24:42 <jeanne> zakim, agenda?
17:24:42 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
17:24:44 <Zakim> 1. review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal [from jeanne]
17:24:46 <Zakim> 2. discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery [from jeanne]
17:24:48 <Zakim> 3. mailing list options [from jeanne]
17:24:50 <Zakim> 4. next meetings [from jeanne]
17:25:05 <jeanne> agenda+ overview
17:25:18 <jeanne> zakim, order will be 5,1,2,3,4
17:25:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'order will be 5,1,2,3,4', jeanne
17:27:59 <Judy> Judy has joined #gallery
17:29:52 <Judy> agenda+ agenda overview
17:29:52 <Judy> agenda+ review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal
17:29:52 <Judy> agenda+ discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery
17:29:52 <Judy> agenda+ mailing list options
17:29:52 <Judy> agenda+ next meetings
17:30:22 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 6
17:30:22 <Zakim> agendum 6, agenda overview, dropped
17:30:28 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 7
17:30:28 <Zakim> agendum 7, review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal, dropped
17:30:31 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 8
17:30:31 <Zakim> agendum 8, discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery, dropped
17:30:33 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 9
17:30:33 <Zakim> agendum 9, mailing list options, dropped
17:30:37 <Judy> zakim, drop agendum 10
17:30:37 <Zakim> agendum 10, next meetings, dropped
17:31:24 <Judy> zakim, who's here?
17:31:24 <Zakim> sorry, Judy, I don't know what conference this is
17:31:25 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne
17:31:38 <jeanne> zakim, this will be Gallery
17:31:38 <Zakim> ok, jeanne, I see Team_(gallery)17:00Z already started
17:31:53 <jeanne> zakim, code?
17:31:53 <Zakim> the conference code is 26631 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), jeanne
17:31:55 <Zakim> +Deborah
17:32:12 <Zakim> +Jeanne
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17:40:15 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 5
17:40:15 <Zakim> agendum 5. "overview" taken up [from jeanne]
17:40:18 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
17:40:21 <jeanne> zakim, close this item
17:40:21 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
17:40:22 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:40:23 <Zakim> 1. review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal [from jeanne]
17:40:30 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 1
17:40:30 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review of "Draft questions for accessible template developers" from Jamal" taken up [from jeanne]
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17:41:43 <korn> Is this room live?
17:43:40 <jeanne> [group reviews Jamal's proposal]
17:46:10 <jeanne> JB: template as a term that includes widget may be somewhat confusing, since template usually is static and widget is dynamic. 
17:46:54 <jeanne> JM: I'm not attached to the word to use. 
17:47:15 <Zakim> -[Oracle]
17:47:37 <Zakim> +[Oracle]
17:48:01 <Judy> zakim, -[Oracle] is Peter_Korn
17:48:01 <Zakim> sorry, Judy, I do not recognize a party named '-[Oracle]'
17:48:13 <Judy> zakim, [Oracle] is Peter_Korn
17:48:13 <Zakim> +Peter_Korn; got it
17:49:14 <jeanne> PK: If it is in a open source repository, where it is located, if it is commercial, what are the terms that it can be downloaded. 
17:49:26 <jeanne> zakim, close this item
17:49:26 <Zakim> agendum 1 closed
17:49:27 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
17:49:28 <Zakim> 2. discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery [from jeanne]
17:49:33 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 2
17:49:33 <Zakim> agendum 2. "discussion of considerations and options for hosting gallery" taken up [from jeanne]
17:52:09 <jeanne> DK: Frank Bateman asked that it be hosted in the Council of CIOs.  I am waiting to hear back from SSA. There are several CIO Council initiatives hosted there.  
17:53:23 <jeanne> What is going to be easy to find? We can make recommendations how we would like that to be. 
17:54:06 <jeanne> How to make sure it stays "unburied"? 
17:54:39 <jeanne> DK: We can say that we want it on the home page. 
17:55:21 <jeanne> JB: What will help it get noticed, used, and have long-term persistence. 
17:56:30 <jeanne> What about Accessibility.gov?
17:57:05 <jeanne> JB: Let's pick a place with longevity for hosting and has a virtual presence for the longer term. 
17:57:59 <Judy> s/Let's pick/What about picking/
17:58:45 <jeanne> Challenge is popular with the Administration now. It is hosted by a company that has done all the legal research for privacy, security, etc. 
17:59:40 <jeanne> ... there are so many rules for the different agencies, and it is now made available for all agencies to use. 
18:02:31 <jeanne> JB: There are White House staff that have offered to be helpful.  
18:02:45 <korn> http://www.appsforhealthykids.com/
18:03:50 <jeanne> http://www.appsforhealthykids.com/application-gallery
18:04:10 <korn> http://www.challengepost.com/
18:04:20 <jeanne> It is one of the applications on the server.  
18:06:33 <korn> http://challenge.gov/
18:06:52 <jeanne> GSA operates Challenge.gov.  It would be a publically available URL.  We could get a domain name that would route to it. 
18:07:26 <jeanne> there would be more flexibility if it were hosted by a private organization. 
18:09:15 <jeanne> JB: The name is one issue, who is hosting us is another. We have a gracious offer from the CIO Council, or we can do it through Challenge.gov (White House).
18:10:03 <jeanne> If we want it to be more international, we may want to go to a .com rather than a .gov that is US-centric. 
18:13:14 <jeanne> JM: The permanence issue certainly be guarenteed for the first term of the Obama administration [laughter]. But it would not disappear due to regulations on persistence and archive. 
18:13:29 <jeanne> DK: But our ability to maintain and update it may be gone. 
18:17:17 <korn> Judy - I'm afraid I need to drop off the call.  
18:17:27 <Judy> straw proposal: 
18:17:51 <Zakim> -Peter_Korn
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18:19:18 <jeanne> It could be layered and phased over time. 
18:19:52 <jeanne> We can ask someone appropriate from GSA to be on our next call so we can ask these questions. 
18:23:13 <jeanne> learn or teach accessible.gov or .com.  easyaccessibility.com or .gov
18:25:29 <jeanne> accessiblebuildingblocks - modular and easy
18:27:16 <jeanne> "component" means part of an agency.  We can't use a lot of gov-speak if we want it to be understandable to the public. 
18:29:34 <jeanne> accessiblewebgallery
18:29:42 <jeanne> templatesgallery
18:30:28 <jeanne> accessibletemplatesgaller - self explanatory, but some think it is too long 
18:32:34 <jeanne> accessiblecodegallery
18:32:44 <jeanne> accessiblewebcomponents
18:32:50 <jeanne> accessiblewebtemplates
18:32:56 <jeanne> accessiblewebcode
18:33:15 <jeanne> accessiblecode.gov
18:33:54 <jeanne> accessible code implies open source
18:35:18 <jeanne> it could start as web code but could expand into other things as well. 
18:35:24 <jeanne> zakim, who is here?
18:35:24 <Zakim> On the phone I see John, Jamal, Judy, Deborah, Jeanne
18:35:26 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, RRSAgent, Zakim, jeanne
18:36:21 <jeanne> rrsagent, make logs public
18:36:26 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
18:36:26 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/01-gallery-minutes.html jeanne
18:38:14 <jeanne> accessibleweb - too broad
18:38:35 <Judy> current possibilities:
18:38:49 <Judy> - accessible_web_templates
18:38:58 <Judy> - accessible_code
18:39:06 <Judy> accessible_web
18:39:15 <Judy> - accessible_web
18:39:46 <Judy> accessible_templates
18:39:54 <Judy> - accessible_templates
18:41:01 <jeanne> we should put the ideas out to the list.  
18:42:59 <jeanne> accessible_code
18:43:54 <jeanne> accessible_templates
18:44:04 <jeanne> accessible_web
18:44:24 <jeanne> JB: Thank you for the discussion
18:44:41 <Judy> accessible_web, accessible_code, accessible_templates -- will seek feedback on these three.
18:45:24 <Judy> action wrt hosting:
18:45:59 <Judy> 1) judy contact scott deutchman about tech challenge announcement w/ jamal's input on specifics
18:46:31 <Judy> 2) jb express interest in challenge-post platform hosting, and likely name direction
18:47:10 <Judy> 3) we pursue virtual hosting on other relevant sites, and potentially as initiated by the CIO Council
18:47:46 <jeanne> zakim, close this item
18:47:46 <Zakim> agendum 2 closed
18:47:47 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
18:47:48 <Zakim> 3. mailing list options [from jeanne]
18:47:58 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 4
18:47:58 <Zakim> agendum 4. "next meetings" taken up [from jeanne]
18:48:29 <jeanne> I would like to schedule through the end of October.  I propose that we have a standard day and an alternate day. 
18:50:02 <jeanne> I would like to suggest Wednesday / Friday  1:30 Eastern on Friday
18:51:37 <jeanne> zakim, close this item
18:51:37 <Zakim> agendum 4 closed
18:51:38 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
18:51:39 <Zakim> 3. mailing list options [from jeanne]
18:51:49 <jeanne> zakim, take up item 3
18:51:49 <Zakim> agendum 3. "mailing list options" taken up [from jeanne]
18:52:55 <jeanne> currently, the list is not archived.  If we archive it, we can refer to the specific email, but it does make our mail more public and searchable. 
18:53:05 <jeanne> [no objections]
18:53:16 <jeanne> JB will take it to the others on the list. 
18:54:30 <jeanne> surveys in the W3C require an account (no charge). Any objections? [No objections]
18:54:56 <jeanne> we are also setting up a wiki to use as a sandbox. Any concerns or questions about that? It would be public. 
18:55:27 <jeanne> Would we have to sign in to make edits?  We would not want just anyone to log in and erase what we had been doing. 
18:55:42 <jeanne> zakim, close this item
18:55:42 <Zakim> agendum 3 closed
18:55:43 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
18:56:09 <jeanne> John, do you want to talk about the upcoming unconference? 
18:56:40 <jeanne> JC: Its a reminder of who wants to sign up. I'll be sending it out over Labor Day. 
18:57:11 <jeanne> JB: If the piece that I wanted to have done today, is done for next week, can you send that to the list?
18:57:37 <jeanne> Yes, I want to get people registered for the event. 
18:58:02 <jeanne> send the reminder soon. Then in a couple days, send another reminder with information about the Tech Challenge. 
18:58:52 <jeanne> October 9 (Saturday) is the date. There is a wine & cheese cookout on Sunday. 
18:59:33 <Zakim> -John
18:59:34 <Zakim> -Jamal
18:59:35 <Zakim> -Judy
18:59:36 <Zakim> -Jeanne
18:59:42 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
18:59:42 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/01-gallery-minutes.html jeanne
18:59:57 <Zakim> -Deborah
18:59:58 <Zakim> Team_(gallery)17:00Z has ended
19:00:00 <Zakim> Attendees were John, Jamal, Judy, Deborah, Jeanne, Peter_Korn
19:00:19 <jeanne> zakim, bye
19:00:19 <Zakim> Zakim has left #gallery
19:00:34 <jeanne> rrsagent, make minutes
19:00:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/09/01-gallery-minutes.html jeanne