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12:59:15 <RRSAgent> See http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T12-59-15
12:59:24 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn 
12:59:24 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs, I see INC_SSN()9:00AM already started
12:59:33 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:   SSN XG
12:59:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:   SSN XG
13:00:01 <Arthur> Arthur has joined #ssn
13:00:02 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:00:34 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda:   http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0024.html
13:00:47 <Payam> zakim, IPcaller is me
13:00:47 <Zakim> +Payam; got it
13:00:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/08/25-ssn-minutes.html
13:01:42 <Zakim> +??P5
13:01:43 <Zakim> + +44.190.827.aabb
13:01:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
13:01:58 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
13:02:04 <Arthur> zakim, ??P5 is me
13:02:04 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
13:02:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
13:02:10 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
13:02:13 <Andriy> zakim, aabb is me
13:02:13 <Zakim> +Andriy; got it
13:02:52 <kerry> zakim, ipcaller.a is me
13:02:53 <Zakim> +kerry; got it
13:03:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets: Simon, David, Kevin
13:03:38 <Zakim> +??P10
13:03:46 <michael> zakim, ??P10 is me
13:03:46 <Zakim> +michael; got it
13:04:14 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets: Jano
13:04:17 <kerry> laurent, I am on skype and i can hear but i think you cant hear me.
13:04:34 <kerry> no...
13:06:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> Scribenick: Arthur
13:06:41 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Final version of the ontology 
13:07:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> New version: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0025.html
13:08:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:SSN.png
13:08:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> (arthur's picture)
13:08:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> and a second picture by Laurent (CMAP OE) http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/File:DUL_ssn.jpg 
13:09:08 <Arthur> MIchael: New ssn ontology is alligned with DOLCE ontology.
13:11:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> New documentation: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN
13:12:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/DUL_ssn
13:15:19 <kerry> no q from me
13:15:31 <kerry> but its lokkong really nice!
13:17:55 <michael> +q
13:18:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack michael
13:19:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/lokkong/looking/
13:21:25 <kerry> +q
13:22:04 <Arthur> Payam: my example contains also alignements with DOLCE. 
13:22:48 <Arthur> Andrly: replaced the properties in his example with DOLCE properties.
13:23:47 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: does someones example contain oparating model, survival mode?
13:24:47 <Payam> +q
13:24:57 <kerry> quick question regarding the image (from arthur?  - the 2nd link above): it looks like sesnorinput and stimulus are equivalent-- is that right/deliberate?
13:25:25 <kerry> ok - ta
13:25:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack kerry
13:25:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
13:27:19 <Payam> +q
13:27:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
13:29:24 <Arthur> Payam: need to cover more the measurtement capabilities
13:31:29 <Zakim> -Andriy
13:31:53 <Payam> Creating example on how one can use the ontology to: describe a sensor device (Laurent's example), senser deployment (Payam's example), relate sensor description to features of interest (Andiy's example), relating sensor description to O&M data (?)
13:32:11 <Arthur> Andrly: we need a mixed example containing measurement capabiliets and oparation range
13:32:36 <Zakim> +Andriy
13:33:47 <Arthur> Michael: example: Battery life time effects sensing capabilities
13:33:50 <Andriy> +q
13:33:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Andriy
13:34:40 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/senser/sensor/
13:34:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/Andrly/Andriy/
13:35:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/capabiliets/capabilities/
13:35:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/measurtement/measurement/
13:36:13 <Pramod> q
13:36:20 <Pramod> +q
13:36:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/sesnorinput/sensor input/
13:39:29 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/Andiy/Andriy/
13:39:39 <Arthur> Michael: in DOLCE there is a concept Temperature its instances represent particular measuremtns with values etc.
13:40:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/measuremtns/measurements/
13:41:44 <laurent_lefort_cs> See WonderWeb Deliverable D18 page 16 to 18
13:42:54 <Arthur> http://wonderweb.semanticweb.org/deliverables/documents/D18.pdf
13:43:15 <Payam> operational model?
13:44:23 <laurent_lefort_cs> Question from Pramod is answered here: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Modelling_of_Accuracy,_etc
13:47:40 <Arthur> Krzysztof (email): a new version of the stimulus-sensor-observation pattern based on DOLCE and used for the alignment is online at http://www.personal.psu.edu/kuj13/OuM/OuM.owl
13:49:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Wrap up of the XG and closure
13:51:46 <laurent_lefort_cs> Table: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Net_Ontology#Ontology
13:53:10 <kerry> I cam take one of thos modules
13:53:20 <kerry> maybe device?
13:53:29 <Arthur> What is the deadline for the report?
13:53:50 <kerry> +q
13:53:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack q
13:54:00 <kerry> the deadline is sofft...
13:54:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack kerry
13:54:03 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: official end of the project is end of this week
13:54:11 <kerry> we were told " a couple of weeks would be alright"
13:54:21 <kerry> I think a month could be conisdered max
13:54:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/conisdered/considered/
13:54:55 <kerry> s/sofft/soft
13:55:03 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Pramod
13:55:05 <Pramod> no
13:55:46 <kerry> +1 -- but count me in
13:57:09 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN#Section_Deploy
13:58:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Deploy#Deployment
14:00:07 <Payam> +q
14:00:15 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack payam
14:01:59 <Payam> same here
14:04:17 <kerry> o can hear laurent
14:04:36 <kerry> s/o/i
14:06:57 <Pramod> yes, but on mute
14:07:14 <kerry> I can contribute to that -- but please r emind me next week
14:07:47 <kerry> +q
14:07:56 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack kerry 
14:10:06 <kerry> 2 things. 1. the SSn workshop at ISWC closes to paper submission on FRIDAY. A best paper award funding has just been offered -- watch the web page
14:10:22 <kerry> 2. follow up meeting at ISWC for the XG?
14:10:35 <kerry> ok -- will do
14:10:41 <kerry> I think it is a good idea
14:11:57 <kerry> korea has its advantage! only 11pm!
14:12:07 <kerry> bye to all
14:12:09 <Zakim> -Payam
14:12:11 <Zakim> -michael
14:12:13 <kerry> and thanks for all the fish!!!!
14:12:13 <michael> bye
14:12:13 <Payam> bye
14:12:16 <Zakim> -Andriy
14:12:20 <Zakim> - +1.937.708.aaaa
14:12:39 <kerry> -kerry
14:12:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: wiki changes
14:13:12 <Zakim> -kerry
14:13:23 <laurent_lefort_cs> Checklist: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Incubator_Report
14:16:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> Report (strawman) extended http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Network_Reading_list
14:17:35 <Arthur> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Network_Reading_list#2.5_Use_cases
14:19:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> Page with mappings use case - ontology http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Semantic_Sensor_Network_Ontology
14:33:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> Review: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SSN_Ontologies_Attributes
14:56:24 <Zakim> -Arthur
14:56:25 <Zakim> -laurent_lefort_cs
14:56:25 <Zakim> INC_SSN()9:00AM has ended
14:56:27 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.937.708.aaaa, Payam, +44.190.827.aabb, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, Andriy, kerry, michael
15:03:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
15:03:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:03:35 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:03:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
15:04:05 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:04:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:05:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/thos /those /
15:06:24 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/alignement/alignment/
15:06:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/r emind/remind/
15:07:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/oparation/operation/
15:08:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets+ Simon, David, Kevin
15:09:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:09:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:09:35 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair: Laurent
15:09:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:09:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:11:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/I cam/I can/
15:11:10 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:11:10 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:11:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/SSn workshop/SSN workshop/
15:12:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:12:11 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:15:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> ACTION: Kerry to propose a XG-follow up meeting at ISWC
15:15:02 <trackbot> Created ACTION-44 - Propose a XG-follow up meeting at ISWC [on Kerry Taylor - due 2010-09-07].
15:17:17 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Payam to provide "SSN_Deploy" report snippet 
15:17:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-45 - Provide "SSN_Deploy" report snippet  [on Payam Barnaghi - due 2010-09-07].
15:18:01 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Andriy to provide "SSN_Sensor" report snippet 
15:18:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-46 - Provide "SSN_Sensor" report snippet  [on Andriy Nikolov - due 2010-09-07].
15:19:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Laurent to recruit volunteers for "SSN_Upper" (Jano?), "SSN_Observation" (Kerry?) report snippets
15:19:55 <trackbot> Created ACTION-47 - Recruit volunteers for "SSN_Upper" (Jano?), "SSN_Observation" (Kerry?) report snippets [on Laurent Lefort - due 2010-09-07].
15:20:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Michael to harmonise and put together all the "SSN" report snippets 
15:20:52 <trackbot> Created ACTION-48 - Harmonise and put together all the "SSN" report snippets  [on Michael Compton - due 2010-09-07].
15:21:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> For each snippet, we need:
15:22:29 <laurent_lefort_cs> - Intro to the sub-part of the ontology using the overview figures provided by Raul 
15:23:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> - Answer to the bullet points provided by Andriy on the basis of available examples
15:28:34 <laurent_lefort_cs> Action: Arthur to create a bullet points list of priority content for the final report (linkage between use cases and deliverables, lessons learned for future work)
15:28:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-49 - Create a bullet points list of priority content for the final report (linkage between use cases and deliverables, lessons learned for future work) [on Arthur Herzog - due 2010-09-07].
15:30:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
15:30:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:31:49 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
15:32:24 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please generate minutes
15:32:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
15:32:37 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, bye
15:32:37 <Zakim> Zakim has left #ssn
15:32:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bye
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> I see 6 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-actions.rdf :
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Kerry to propose a XG-follow up meeting at ISWC [1]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-15-02
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Payam to provide "SSN_Deploy" report snippet  [2]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-17-17
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Andriy to provide "SSN_Sensor" report snippet  [3]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-18-01
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Laurent to recruit volunteers for "SSN_Upper" (Jano?), "SSN_Observation" (Kerry?) report snippets [4]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-19-55
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Michael to harmonise and put together all the "SSN" report snippets  [5]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-20-52
15:32:45 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Arthur to create a bullet points list of priority content for the final report (linkage between use cases and deliverables, lessons learned for future work) [6]
15:32:45 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/31-ssn-irc#T15-28-34