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16:24:15 <MichaelC> 9326: might be a duplicate of 10066
16:24:24 <MichaelC> pinging Cynthia to verify, added note to bug
16:24:43 <MichaelC> (that is, 10066 has taken over the role of ARIA mapping omnibus bug, so 9326 not needed)
16:25:00 <MichaelC> 8673: assigned to cynthia, need info from the mapping sub-team
16:25:06 <MichaelC> no action from us at this time
16:30:15 <MichaelC> 8000: Assigning to Cynthia to address in ARIA mapping sub-team
16:30:25 <Joshue> Just for the record, list of bugs we are working on as of Aug 1 2010 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=NEEDSINFO&resolution=INVALID&resolution=WONTFIX
16:40:22 <MichaelC> 8644: this is an omnibus @alt bug on several elements
16:40:29 <MichaelC> seems primarily related to <embed>
16:40:42 <MichaelC> (fall back for the other elements being addressed separately)
16:41:01 <MichaelC> 10077 separately requests @alt for <embed>
16:41:54 <MichaelC> <object> has a fallback model via being "transparent", but <embed> lacks this
16:43:29 <MichaelC> there's confusion about when to use <embed> and when to use <object>
16:45:48 <MichaelC> and whether fallback content as supported by <object> is browser support fallback or accessibility alternative fallback
16:46:07 <MichaelC> these are two separate use cases, even though sometimes they get confused / blended
16:48:52 <MichaelC> as defined in http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/content-models.html#fallback-content, the fallback for object is for browser support and does not address accessibility
16:50:11 <MichaelC> so this leads us to conclude that both <embed> and <object> do not have accessibility fallback mechanisms at the moment
16:52:19 <MichaelC> this issue turns out to be represented by 8885
16:54:12 <Joshue> 8885 http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=8885
16:57:26 <MichaelC> topic: Homework
16:59:30 <MichaelC> Review the wontfix bugs so we can be more efficient in next triage meeting
16:59:32 <MichaelC> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/buglist.cgi?keywords=a11ytf&bug_status=RESOLVED&resolution=WONTFIX
17:02:33 <MichaelC> Josh to make proposals on 9216, 9437, 9871, 9872
17:03:32 <MichaelC> Michael to make proposals on 9061, 9098, 9212, 9215
17:04:56 <MichaelC> Martin to look at 8674, 8681, 8754
17:05:06 <MichaelC> Marco to look at 8827, 8872
17:05:34 <MichaelC> topic: Next meeting: Tuesday 7 September 2010 at 15:00 UTC
17:14:51 <MichaelC> meeting: Bug Triage sub-team - HTML A11Y TF
17:15:14 <MichaelC> present: Michael_Cooper, Martin_Kliehm, Joshue_O'Connor, Marco_Ranon
17:15:22 <MichaelC> regrets: Laura_Carlson, Sally_Cain
17:15:34 <MichaelC> chair: Michael_Cooper
17:15:36 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
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