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18:02:08 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be DOM3
18:02:08 <Zakim> ok, trackbot, I see IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM already started
18:02:09 <trackbot> Meeting: Web Applications Working Group Teleconference
18:02:09 <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2010
18:02:10 <shepazu> Zakim, call shepazu 
18:02:10 <Zakim> ok, shepazu; the call is being made
18:02:12 <Zakim> +Shepazu
18:07:24 <smaug_> shepazu: we have the meeting?
18:07:57 <smaug_> and sorry, I'm a bit late
18:09:56 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
18:10:16 <smaug_> Zakim, [IPcaller] is Olli_Pettay
18:10:16 <Zakim> +Olli_Pettay; got it
18:10:59 <Travis> scribe: Travis
18:11:03 <Travis> scribeNick: Travis
18:11:08 <Travis> Hi, and welcome.
18:11:16 <Travis> shepazu: I know of two outstanding issues
18:11:41 <Travis> ... 1) ContextInfo sections need to be checked and fixed if necessary
18:11:52 <Travis> ... 2) composition events implementation feedback
18:12:01 <Travis> ... other than that, I think we're ready to publish.
18:12:28 <Travis> ... I expect there will be feedback that we'll need integrate after last call, and possibly a second last call.
18:12:44 <Travis> ... but we can take these comments and integrate them.
18:13:03 <Travis> smaug_: We had talked earlier about publishing a WD first, then issuing the Last Call
18:13:33 <Travis> shepazu: Yes, we could that because WD get better review than editor's draft.
18:13:52 <Travis> smaug_: I see in many bugs, that people are looking at the last (outdated) WD.
18:14:15 <Travis> shepazu: It would be ideal to go from WD to LastCall, but to get this shipped it makes sense to go straight there.
18:14:31 <Travis> ... we should have been pushing every three months, but haven't kept up.
18:15:16 <Travis> ... I will ask the working group to go to last call, with certain known issues, and the expectation that we will take last-call comments seriously.
18:15:28 <Travis> smaug_: How are last call comments different from WD comments?
18:16:15 <Travis> shepazu: Last call comments need to be tracked and resolved by the group. We have to ensure that we close the loop on commenters.
18:17:12 <Travis> ... We understand that there are potential (old) issues, that we'd like to make official last call comments. 
18:17:58 <Travis> ... Timing is a factor here too, relative to Doug's upcoming schedule.
18:18:19 <Travis> ... We want to make sure we collect the comments.
18:18:56 <Travis> ... We will probably have a second last call (shorter) becuase hopefully we have addressed all the issues.
18:19:34 <Travis> ACTION: shepazu to update composition events and contextinfo sections before this Friday (8/27/2010)
18:19:34 <trackbot> Created ACTION-571 - Update composition events and contextinfo sections before this Friday (8/27/2010) [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-09-01].
18:19:57 <Travis> ACTION: shepazu to request Last Call transition from the Web Apps Working Group
18:19:57 <trackbot> Created ACTION-572 - Request Last Call transition from the Web Apps Working Group [on Doug Schepers - due 2010-09-01].
18:24:06 <Travis> shepazu: I added a definition for event order and a section that relates to event loops.
18:24:21 <Travis> Travis: That section looks good to me.
18:26:42 <Travis> smaug_: The event loop does not seem relevant to the DOM Events spec
18:27:42 <Travis> ... We should be careful that we don't imply that the event loop concept is a DOM Events spec feature.
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18:41:20 <Travis> shepazu: Are there any other outstanding issues that need to be addressed (other than the two aforementioned ones)?
18:41:42 <Travis> Travis: None. I expect we'll have a few last call comments
18:41:51 <Travis> smaug_: No
18:43:31 <Zakim> -Olli_Pettay
18:43:37 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
18:43:43 <Zakim> -Shepazu
18:43:44 <Zakim> IA_WebApps(DOM3)2:00PM has ended
18:43:46 <Zakim> Attendees were [Microsoft], Shepazu, Olli_Pettay
19:03:29 <shepazu> trackbot: end telcon
19:03:29 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
19:03:29 <Zakim> sorry, trackbot, I don't know what conference this is
19:03:30 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
19:03:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/25-webapps-minutes.html trackbot
19:03:31 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
19:03:31 <RRSAgent> I see 2 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/25-webapps-actions.rdf :
19:03:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to update composition events and contextinfo sections before this Friday (8/27/2010) [1]
19:03:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/25-webapps-irc#T18-19-34
19:03:31 <RRSAgent> ACTION: shepazu to request Last Call transition from the Web Apps Working Group [2]
19:03:31 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/25-webapps-irc#T18-19-57