IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-08-24

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Zakim, this will be SJMS
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Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 24 August 2010
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+alewis
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+ +1.512.918.aaaa
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Zakim, aaaa is padams
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+padams; got it
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+[IBM-Hursley]
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16:02:27 [mphillip]
Chair: Eric
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TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe
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Scribe: Mark
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TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes
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Minutes approved with no amendments
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TOPIC: Review the agenda
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Mark: A couple of new issues raised in mailing list
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Agenda approved with no amendments
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TOPIC: Administrative items
16:07:16 [mphillip]
Eric: Any value in F2F? May be useful to finish CR.
16:10:06 [mphillip]
East coast / central US would be best, but it seems likely that travel restrictions would prohibit this.
16:11:05 [mphillip]
Eric: Suggest we check whether travel approvals from our organisations are likely to be forthcoming, and how much lead time would be required. Two days should be sufficient.
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TOPIC: Review action items
16:13:44 [mphillip]
Eric: Some investigation done, but none complete
16:14:41 [mphillip]
Derek: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/191 - discussed in list, and mail sent to list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0015.html
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Derek: There will be some cases where a service provider would know that expected properties- e.g. targetService - have not been specified and so a fault could be thrown in these circumstances
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Eric: Suggest Derek raises as a new issue
16:19:33 [mphillip]
Mark: Originally thought that missing targetService would be untestable, but now agree with Derek that there are cases where a fault would be useful
16:25:00 [mphillip]
Phil: soapAction is different from targetService - it's usually specified in the WSDL - could restrict the fault to properties specified in the WSDL
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Eric: Discussion is centred around the clarity of the text and whether it would be solved by a fault
16:26:06 [mphillip]
Derek: Will keep action open and raise an issue
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Phil: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/197 - done
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close action-197
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ACTION-197 Create an alternate proposal for issue-55 resolution closed
16:27:01 [mphillip]
Mark: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/199 - done
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close action-199
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ACTION-199 Review the proposal for issue 48 and make a counter proposal if he does not agree closed
16:27:25 [mphillip]
Mark: action200 done
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close action-200
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ACTION-200 Apply the changes for issue 50 closed
16:28:06 [mphillip]
Mark: Action 201 - still pending
16:28:25 [mphillip]
Eric: Action 202 - still pending
16:28:47 [mphillip]
Eric: Will make the necesary changes once all issues have been resolved
16:29:00 [mphillip]
TOPIC: Raised spec issues
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0016.html
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Mark: New issue - complete WSDL example
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RESOLUTION: No objections to opening this as an issue
16:32:04 [mphillip]
NEW ISSUE: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0017.html
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Phil: Good idea - we should probably scrub the SOAP messages in the test cases too to check that they are using consistent encoding
16:35:20 [mphillip]
Phil: Suggest we review the test cases once the issues are resolved
16:35:40 [mphillip]
action Phil to check the SOAP encoding in the test cases once the issues are resolved
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Created ACTION-203 - Check the SOAP encoding in the test cases once the issues are resolved [on Phil Adams - due 2010-08-31].
16:36:21 [mphillip]
RESOLUTION: No objections to opening this as an issue
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TOPIC: Accepting proposals to close open issues
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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/27 - leaving open
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Eric: http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/48
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RESOLUTION: The proposal for Issue 48 is approved as written
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action eric to apply the resolution for issue 48
16:38:54 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-204 - Apply the resolution for issue 48 [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-08-31].
16:39:11 [mphillip]
http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/55 -
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RESOLUTION: The proposal for Issue 55 is approved as written
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action eric to apply the resolution for issue 55
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Created ACTION-205 - Apply the resolution for issue 55 [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-08-31].
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TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions:
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TOPIC: Accepting proposals to close open issues
16:42:37 [eric]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0016.html
16:47:07 [mphillip]
Eric: The WSDL contains some spurious periods and incorrect angle bracket positions
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Mark: Email seems to have been mangled - will send the WSDL file as an attachment to the list
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RESOLUTION: The proposal for the Issue in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0016.html is approved - subject to the WSDL being correctly formed - see attached WSDL
16:49:21 [mphillip]
action Eric to apply the resolution for the issue described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0016.html
16:49:21 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-206 - Apply the resolution for the issue described in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0016.html [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-08-31].
16:49:43 [mphillip]
SOAP samples issue : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0017.html
16:50:27 [mphillip]
Mark: Needs more complete proposal - example messages
16:50:39 [mphillip]
action mark to finish proposal for issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0017.html
16:50:39 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-207 - Finish proposal for issue http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0017.html [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-08-31].
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TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions:
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http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/50
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http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0009.html
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RESOLUTION: The application of the resolution for issue 50 is accepted
16:56:22 [mphillip]
Issue 56 & 57 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/56
16:56:29 [eric]
http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Aug/0010.html
16:58:35 [mphillip]
RESOLUTION: The application of the resolutions for issues 56 and 57 have been accepted
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TOPIC: URI scheme
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Eric: Sent email to the list - intent is to develop another draft of the URI scheme spec. for feedback
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TOPIC: AOB:
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None
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-padams
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-eric
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/24-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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-alewis
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