11:36:18 RRSAgent has joined #mw4d 11:36:18 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/08/23-mw4d-irc 11:36:23 zakim, this will be mw'd 11:36:24 I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, Steph 11:36:27 zakim, this will be mw4d 11:36:27 ok, Steph; I see MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM scheduled to start in 24 minutes 11:36:40 Meeting: MW4D IG bi-monthly call 11:37:07 Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Aug/0014.html 11:37:13 Present:Stephane 11:37:17 Chair:Steph 11:37:23 zakim, make log public 11:37:23 I don't understand 'make log public', Steph 11:37:37 rrsagent, make log public 11:55:23 stephanierieger has joined #mw4d 11:56:19 Shwetank has joined #mw4d 11:58:10 zakim, code ? 11:58:10 the conference code is 6493 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), Steph 11:58:29 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has now started 11:58:37 + +358.160.aaaa 11:58:52 zakim, aaaa is me 11:58:52 +Steph; got it 11:58:57 zakim, who is here ? 11:58:57 On the phone I see Steph 11:58:58 On IRC I see Shwetank, stephanierieger, RRSAgent, Zakim, Steph, Adesina 11:59:12 raphael has joined #mw4d 11:59:34 +[IPcaller] 11:59:51 zakim, IPcaller is Shwetank 11:59:51 +Shwetank; got it 11:59:58 Present+Shwetank 12:01:06 +??P2 12:01:17 zakim, ??P2 is Stephanie 12:01:17 +Stephanie; got it 12:01:28 Present+Stephanie 12:01:30 betty has joined #mw4d 12:02:07 + +41.22.730.aabb 12:02:16 zakim, aabb is Raphael 12:02:16 +Raphael; got it 12:02:25 Present+Raphael 12:03:36 Hello All! 12:04:40 Hi Adesina 12:05:13 + +44.750.070.aacc 12:05:20 zakim, aacc is Betty 12:05:20 +Betty; got it 12:05:25 Present+Betty 12:06:01 http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-mw4d/2010Aug/0014.html 12:06:15 Topic: Tools 12:06:30 http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_tools 12:07:09 Stephanie: updated the wiki 12:07:18 transcribed everythign i had so far 12:07:25 asked for comments 12:07:35 received 5-6 answers 12:07:47 tried to capture all the discussions 12:08:05 created a large table with a series of criteria 12:08:11 with sub-criteria 12:08:53 Will update after the discussion today and send it to the list 12:09:18 I have 12:09:22 quickly 12:09:41 raphael: went go through quickly 12:09:47 will add directly in the wiki 12:10:32 Stephanie: criteria different for user and deployment 12:10:36 different categorie 12:10:45 might be good to separate in two different pieces 12:10:51 different type of information 12:11:22 might be good to differentiate 12:12:00 I agree. We may need more categories 12:12:28 stephane: +1 to separate end-user and those who will deploy 12:13:06 raphael: good to capture the difference between plug&play and those who needs integration 12:13:12 good to structure 12:13:44 stephanie: right. interesting to see how oteh rpeople are structuring tools 12:14:06 my next step 12:15:22 steph: capturing use cases is important too 12:16:25 q+ 12:16:38 steph: also applying the method to a set of tools 12:16:57 Spoken Web from IBM India? 12:16:58 christellescharff has joined #mw4d 12:17:10 yes, spoken web work is done in india 12:17:10 betty: example spoken web ? 12:17:16 at least part of it 12:17:17 going to be analyzed 12:18:17 Is there is report on the spoken web work in India? 12:18:21 shwetank: research project for now 12:18:25 not a tool 12:18:50 @Adesina: I can e-mail list of papers about spoken Web. 12:19:03 Kindly do Betty. Thanks 12:19:24 Adesina, links to spoken web are on the wiki 12:19:46 shwetank: things are ambiguous 12:20:00 certain tools are not gears to mobile 12:20:06 but might be useful 12:21:04 q+ 12:21:09 things like task manager or alike 12:21:14 ack betty 12:21:20 ack stephanierieger 12:21:23 a should be smthg one can use on a mobile 12:21:28 no? 12:21:35 stephanie: anything that can someone use from a mobile 12:21:38 is ok 12:22:26 +1 12:22:29 +1 12:22:29 good to know 12:23:24 j2me apps and mobile web apps are tools, I guess 12:23:42 stephane: licensed ones too ? 12:23:52 pc-based tools to interact with phones via SMS are toosl too 12:23:55 shwetank: as far as they can be used to provide social value, they are ok 12:24:09 +1 12:26:42 q+ 12:27:04 ack raphael 12:29:28 http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_tools 12:32:05 Topic: I18N discussion 12:32:38 http://rishida.net/blog/?p=445 12:34:39 q+ 12:35:06 raphael: 12:35:13 could be documented on the wiki 12:35:21 motivation behind the discussion 12:35:25 lots of exchange 12:35:30 q+ 12:35:35 might be good to capture that on one of our wiki page 12:35:39 ack raphael 12:35:44 ack shwetank 12:35:48 +1 12:36:05 shwetank: would be good to capture which phones/os supports which type of fonts 12:36:21 but thousand of phones 12:38:13 agree 12:38:23 steph: understanding what information is important is essetial 12:38:30 q+ 12:38:41 gathering lmarket info is harder, particularly as things are getting outdated very quickly 12:39:22 stephanie: doing lots of research on mobile and browser, but don't know yet this info 12:39:31 this is very sensitive with the local context 12:39:52 phones released in different regions have different features 12:40:03 but might be interesting to have more info 12:40:43 I could work a little on this .... as having this kind of info, even a small bit, could be usefull 12:40:47 ACTION: steph to create a wiki page about I81N isue 12:41:19 great 12:41:49 Topic: other MW4D work items 12:44:19 q+ 12:44:32 ack stephanierieger 12:44:37 ack shwetank 12:44:43 q+ 12:44:49 shwetank: i've interest in banking and will look at that 12:45:06 ack raphael 12:45:23 raphael: working on pineapple in beni 12:45:25 n 12:45:34 i would be happy to help in Agriculture 12:45:53 steph: will create a page on agriculture soon 12:46:14 q+ 12:46:43 ACTION: steph to create a wiki page on agriculture, and a page mbanking 12:47:02 ack shwetank 12:48:46 cool, got it 12:48:52 q+ 12:49:02 My research uses social anthropological & statistical approach to analysis the 2-way impact between mobile Web & society. 12:49:04 steph: more domain better, but need more resource 12:49:21 betty: about impact, this is my research 12:49:28 happy to work on that 12:49:40 http://www.w3.org/2008/MW4D/wiki/Mw4d_impact 12:50:29 I can work on Education and have quite a bit of historical data on the subject but less information about initiatives in the past 1-2 years. 12:51:35 Action: steph to create a page about education 12:52:12 Topic: Workshop 12:54:05 q+ 12:54:15 steph: good to do a new workshop ? 12:54:18 ack betty 12:54:22 ack raphael 12:54:34 raphel: great opportunity 12:54:48 but not enough participation from people form target communities 12:55:18 but we might to put more energy ot bring people online 12:56:11 mobilizing people is critical 12:56:46 trying to mobilize people to interact online 12:57:34 more efficient than one time event 12:57:56 steph: target groups ? 12:58:11 raphael: apps developer 12:58:18 they would bring input 12:58:47 more people could participate in the wiki and on the mailing-list 12:58:53 we need more people 12:58:59 particuarly working in Africa 12:59:20 field experience is critical 13:01:14 q+ 13:01:20 ack shwetanl 13:01:24 ack shwetank 13:01:34 shwetank: more participation from dev countries 13:01:49 would be good to outreach to other people like china or indonesia 13:01:56 identifying people and outreaching to them 13:02:06 q+ 13:02:22 I agree with the face-to-face workshop, because it's strengthen bond among people working in MW4D. But travelling can be costly to gather people from various places, so is it possible to arrange representation? Eg someone represents MW4D projects in Sub Saharan countries, South East Asia, etc. 13:02:58 steph: +1 13:03:13 +1 13:03:18 Topic: NExt meeting 13:03:38 september 6 13:03:42 steph: ok ? 13:03:42 OK 13:03:50 Sep 6 is OK with me. 13:04:20 -Shwetank 13:04:22 -Raphael 13:04:23 -Stephanie 13:04:24 -Steph 13:04:26 -Betty 13:04:27 MWI_MW4D IG()8:00AM has ended 13:04:28 Attendees were +358.160.aaaa, Steph, Shwetank, Stephanie, +41.22.730.aabb, Raphael, +44.750.070.aacc, Betty 13:04:29 rrsagent, make minutes 13:04:29 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/23-mw4d-minutes.html Steph 14:12:01 Steph has left #mw4d 15:13:07 Zakim has left #mw4d