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16:11:52 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
16:11:58 <David> David has joined #core
16:11:58 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:12:03 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:12:07 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:12:28 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Aug/0003.html
16:12:38 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
16:12:38 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 18 minutes
16:12:45 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:12:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
16:13:09 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:13:16 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:13:16 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
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16:25:06 <David> Hello Addison & Andrew
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16:28:18 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
16:28:26 <Zakim> + +972.5.424.5aaaa
16:29:13 <Zakim> + +44.141.888.aabb
16:29:17 <Zakim> +Addison_Phillips
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16:29:37 <David> zakim, +44 is David
16:29:37 <Zakim> +David; got it
16:29:55 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:30:03 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:30:03 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
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16:30:54 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
16:31:19 <Aharon> I will only be able to stay on for about half an hour.
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16:32:18 <Zakim> + +972.5.225.5aacc
16:32:19 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:32:19 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:32:21 <Zakim> +Richard
16:33:03 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
16:33:11 <aphillip> richard had one agenda add on
16:33:17 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
16:33:17 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
16:33:22 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:33:27 <Zakim> + +1.415.283.aadd
16:33:39 <aphillip> Addison to review Media Fragments URI 
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16:33:57 <aphillip> addison: write back to Unicode/Mark Davis seeking further information on UTR#20 future requirements and indicating that we don't wish to sever relationship between W3C and TUC documents 
16:34:00 <Norbert> zakim, mute norbert
16:34:00 <Zakim> sorry, Norbert, I do not know which phone connection belongs to norbert
16:34:06 <aphillip> Aharon: forward text of input locale comment to WG for DOM3 key events 
16:34:12 <aphillip> DONE
16:34:20 <aphillip> Aharon: publish meeting minutes from bidi meeting 
16:34:22 <aphillip> DONE
16:34:42 <aphillip> Richard: announce charset tutorial as draft for review on winter list for Official Announcement in two weeks 
16:34:52 <Norbert> zakim, help
16:34:52 <Zakim> Please refer to http://www.w3.org/2001/12/zakim-irc-bot for more detailed help.
16:34:55 <Zakim> Some of the commands I know are:
16:34:57 <Zakim>  xxx is yyy       - establish yyy as the name of unknown party xxx
16:35:01 <Zakim>                     if yyy is 'me' or 'I', your nick is substituted
16:35:03 <Zakim>  xxx may be yyy   - establish yyy as possibly the name of unknown party xxx
16:35:06 <Zakim>  I am xxx         - establish your nick as the name of unknown party xxx
16:35:08 <Zakim>  xxx holds yyy [, zzz ...] - establish xxx as a group name and yyy, etc. as participants within that group
16:35:11 <Zakim>  xxx also holds yyy - add yyy to the list of participants in group xxx
16:35:14 <Zakim>  who's here?      - lists the participants on the phone
16:35:16 <Zakim>  who's muted?     - lists the participants who are muted
16:35:16 <aphillip> zakim, who is here?
16:35:18 <Zakim>  mute xxx         - mutes party xxx (like pressing 61#)
16:35:20 <Zakim>  unmute xxx       - reverses the effect of "mute" and of 61#
16:35:23 <Zakim>  is xxx here?     - reports whether a party named like xxx is present
16:35:25 <Zakim>  list conferences - reports the active conferences
16:35:27 <Zakim>  this is xxx      - associates this channel with conference xxx
16:35:29 <Zakim>  excuse us        - disconnects from the irc channel
16:35:32 <Zakim> I last learned something new on $Date: 2010/03/15 18:49:04 $
16:35:33 <Zakim> On the phone I see Aharon, David, aphillip, andrewc, Felix (muted), matial, Richard, +1.415.283.aadd
16:35:36 <Zakim> On IRC I see Norbert, r12a, fsasaki, matial, Aharon, andrewc, David, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip
16:35:41 <aphillip> zakim, +1 is Norbert
16:35:41 <Zakim> +Norbert; got it
16:35:56 <aphillip> DONE
16:36:06 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:36:22 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:36:23 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:36:37 <r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/myanmar/
16:36:38 <aphillip> richard: WOFF and TT webfonts
16:36:49 <r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/urdu/
16:36:50 <Norbert> zakim, mute norbert
16:36:50 <Zakim> Norbert should now be muted
16:36:53 <aphillip> ... put links in above documents
16:37:01 <aphillip> ... that allow you to view with an embedded WOFF font
16:37:24 <aphillip> ... been testing WOFF and will update results
16:37:30 <r12a> http://rishida.net/scripts/uniview6beta/
16:37:35 <aphillip> richard: if interested in Unicode 6.0 characters
16:37:59 <aphillip> richard: secret Unicode 6 Beta has graphics for everything
16:38:12 <aphillip> ... (a few ugly symbols in alchemical symbols)
16:38:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
16:38:37 <aphillip> Topic: MathML directionality
16:38:45 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
16:38:45 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
16:39:04 <aphillip> addison: do we have anything to add to this topic?
16:39:15 <aphillip> aharon: don't anticipate anything to add
16:39:39 <r12a>   	
16:39:39 <r12a> Arabic mathematical notation 
16:39:45 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/NOTE-arabic-math-20060131
16:39:46 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:39:46 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:39:52 <aphillip> matial: arabic math note is interesting
16:40:00 <aphillip> ... math ml is good enough to cover
16:40:50 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:40:59 <aphillip> richard: new member from Microsoft
16:41:43 <aphillip> Topic: Keyboard Locale text
16:41:53 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
16:41:53 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
16:42:07 <aphillip> richard: moved thread to winter list for further discussion
16:42:13 <aphillip> ... also on DOM3 list
16:43:14 <aphillip> aharon: only one response
16:43:22 <aphillip> ... concern about fingerprinting
16:43:57 <r12a> from anne van kesteren
16:45:54 <aphillip> aharon: maybe not that big a deal, but not sure what others think
16:46:04 <r12a> zakim, who's making noise?
16:46:12 <aphillip> Topic: Where people should send comments on specs
16:46:13 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:46:13 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:46:15 <Zakim> r12a, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: Aharon (79%), aphillip (58%), Richard (4%)
16:46:30 <aphillip> richard: brought up from the time to time :-)
16:46:50 <aphillip> ... we have been using i18n-comments@ for comments
16:47:09 <aphillip> ... I think it could be problematic because you have to join the list to send to it
16:47:31 <aphillip> ... thinking we could send things to www-international
16:47:38 <aphillip> ... and then distribute
16:48:00 <aphillip> richard: consider eric's comments no JLTF document
16:48:07 <aphillip> ... no one will see on i18n-comments@
16:48:12 <aphillip> ... so have to forward
16:48:26 <aphillip> ... but then it doesn't get more exposure
16:48:37 <aphillip> ... appropriate for that comment perhaps
16:48:44 <aphillip> ... but more general comments?
16:48:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
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16:53:11 <Zakim> + +1.408.349.aaee
16:53:12 <Zakim> -Norbert
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16:55:57 <aphillip> norbert: where to post comments? have to join mailing list nobody reads... so maybe just create a web form?
16:56:22 <aphillip> richard: don't think so, because poster probably wants to respond to comments
16:57:51 <Aharon> Have to go now. Bye, everybody!
16:58:13 <Zakim> -Aharon
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17:00:00 <aphillip> addison: any objection to using winter list unless we deliberately choose another target list (e.g. the bidi list)?
17:00:08 <aphillip> so resolved
17:00:17 <aphillip> s/addison: any/chair: any/
17:00:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:04:15 <aphillip> richard: think first if a conversation should be on winter when considering where to start a thread of conversation?
17:04:36 <aphillip> s/winter/www-international/
17:05:00 <r12a> zakim, who's here ?
17:05:00 <Zakim> On the phone I see David, aphillip, andrewc, Felix (muted), matial, Richard, Norbert
17:05:02 <Zakim> On IRC I see Norbert, najib, r12a, fsasaki, matial, andrewc, David, RRSAgent, Zakim, aphillip
17:05:30 <aphillip> Topic: bidi doucment progress
17:05:36 <aphillip> s/doucment/document/
17:05:58 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:06:22 <aphillip> richard: looked at review comments for P&C
17:06:29 <aphillip> ... looks like we've closed them all!
17:06:46 <aphillip> richard: polyglot, first item closed, but others unaddressed
17:06:53 <aphillip> s/item closed/item addressed/
17:06:59 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/0907-widgets-pc/
17:07:04 <aphillip> richard: changed table slightly
17:07:06 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/reviews/
17:07:50 <aphillip> ... now links better to latest version of spec
17:08:47 <Zakim> -matial
17:08:48 <Zakim> -aphillip
17:08:48 <Zakim> -Norbert
17:08:51 <Zakim> -Richard
17:08:53 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:08:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:08:55 <Zakim> -Felix
17:08:59 <Zakim> -David
17:09:12 <Zakim> -andrewc
17:09:13 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
17:09:15 <Zakim> Attendees were +972.5.424.5aaaa, +44.141.888.aabb, aphillip, David, Aharon, [IPcaller], andrewc, Felix, +972.5.225.5aacc, Richard, matial, +1.415.283.aadd, Norbert, +1.408.349.aaee
17:09:23 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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17:09:41 <aphillip> Present: addison, richard, mati, aharon, david, andrew, felix
17:09:50 <aphillip> rrsagent, make minutes
17:09:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/18-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:09:55 <aphillip> rrsagent, bye
17:09:55 <RRSAgent> I see no action items