15:09:20 RRSAgent has joined #prov-xg 15:09:20 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/08/13-prov-xg-irc 15:09:22 RRSAgent, make logs world 15:09:22 Zakim has joined #prov-xg 15:09:24 Zakim, this will be 98765 15:09:24 ok, trackbot; I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM scheduled to start 9 minutes ago 15:09:25 Meeting: Provenance Incubator Group Teleconference 15:09:25 Date: 13 August 2010 15:09:29 Zakim, this will be inc_provxg 15:09:29 ok, Irini, I see INC_PROVXG()11:00AM already started 15:11:26 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/User_Requirements#Disease_Outbreak_Scenario 15:11:33 James will talk abt his ideas on the Disease Outbreak scenario that he has worked out until now 15:11:43 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Disease_Outbreak_Scenario 15:14:30 imagine having a richer provenance infrastructure layer to handle with this problem. 15:14:44 not sure if we can associate this with the other scenarios 15:15:21 for instance the cases in the presence of dynamic data -- might be illustrated by other scenarios but might be more complex in this one. 15:16:15 Tim: how does james see the form of information and how can this interact with structured data 15:16:41 James: info starts as unstructured, but eventually people are interested in asking structured complex queries 15:18:11 James: this observation comes from people in Bioinformatics. from a usability point of view, figuring out a schema is not trivial as data grows in different ways. 15:18:47 James: the provenance infrastructure should be agnostic from the structure below 15:20:26 James: the important parts of the scenario can be found at : http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/User_Requirements#Disease_Outbreak_Scenario and http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Analysis_of_Disease_Outbreak_Scenario 15:21:25 James: on the public policy side-- there is work that automatically record decision making 15:21:54 James: in the UK it is required to produce reports for cost benefit analysis (e.g., what the impact on X is on Y) 15:24:14 James: triangular structure in the scenario (users who are trying to understand, reuse, the data and decision makers) 15:25:42 James: the point is that there are multiple levels of abstraction for the specification of provenance -- different ways of saying / expressing provenance information) 15:28:05 Tagging 15:28:44 Daniel: no substantial progress, 46 untagged papers & relevant papers for the scenario 15:29:46 untagged papers should be tagged in the following weeks. & progress of tagging of relevant papers for the disease outbreak scenario 15:30:10 & we should tag the relevant papers to provenance with the #provenance tag 15:30:14 (this is not done) 15:31:05 James: better to think of the scenario and then tag relevant papers instead of going through the list and tag 15:31:12 +1 from me 15:31:41 Daniel: before uploading entries make sure that the entry does not exist 15:32:36 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Provenance_Dimensions 15:33:17 that url is what I used too ;) 15:33:35 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/Requirements 15:34:25 http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/prov/wiki/User_Requirements#Requirements_for_Provenance_on_the_Web_2 15:36:35 rrsagent, set log public 15:36:35 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:36:35 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/13-prov-xg-minutes.html Irini 15:36:35 trackbot, end telcon 15:36:35 Zakim, list attendees 15:36:35 As of this point the attendees have been +1.518.326.aaaa, +30281039aabb, +30281039aacc 15:36:36 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 15:36:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/13-prov-xg-minutes.html trackbot 15:36:37 RRSAgent, bye 15:36:37 I see no action items