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13:57:13 <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
13:57:13 <trackbot> Date: 11 August 2010
13:57:21 <ChrisL> Chair: Vlad
13:57:51 <ChrisL> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webfonts-wg/2010Aug/0024.html
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14:01:01 <ChrisL> zakim, who is here?
14:01:01 <Zakim> On the phone I see jfkthame, jdaggett, +1.510.816.aaaa, Vlad, ChrisL
14:01:05 <Zakim> On IRC I see cslye, tal, Vlad, Zakim, RRSAgent, ChrisL, John, jfkthame, jdaggett, trackbot
14:01:07 <ChrisL> zakim, +1 is cslye
14:01:15 <Zakim> +cslye; got it
14:01:22 <ChrisL> zakim, who is noisy?
14:01:25 <Zakim> +tal
14:01:38 <Zakim> ChrisL, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: cslye (63%), ChrisL (4%), tal (4%)
14:01:53 <Zakim> + +1.250.247.aabb
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14:02:10 <ChrisL> zakim, +1 is John
14:02:10 <Zakim> +John; got it
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14:02:39 <ChrisL> zakim, +1 is erik
14:02:40 <Zakim> +erik; got it
14:02:54 <jdaggett> zakim, mute me
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14:03:09 <ChrisL> zakim, mute cslye
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14:03:12 <jdaggett> sure
14:03:16 <ChrisL> zakim, unmute cslye
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14:03:26 <ChrisL> scribe: ChrisL
14:03:38 <ChrisL> Vlad: agenda ok?
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14:04:36 <ChrisL> Topic: Review and finalize the TypeCon WOFF presentation draft
14:04:46 <ChrisL> http://static.typesupply.com/downloads/typecon/2010-08-10_WOFF_TypeCon.pdf
14:04:50 <Zakim> + +1.415.796.aaee
14:04:55 <ChrisL> Vlad: any comments?
14:05:08 <ChrisL> zakim, +1 is Dave
14:05:08 <Zakim> +Dave; got it
14:05:44 <ChrisL> Vlad: presntation good, hits all the major points needed and is nicely concise
14:06:26 <ChrisL> Tal: seems to be 10-15 mins with rapid slide runthrough
14:07:43 <ChrisL> Vlad: on a historical point, the initial proposal and the current work should be distinguished
14:08:05 <ChrisL> ... work of the WG should be noted
14:08:47 <ChrisL> Tal: what would you change?
14:09:07 <ChrisL> Vlad: should be careful to indicate who is currently working on it
14:10:02 <ChrisL> ChrisL: speaker notes not typically for public consumption
14:10:13 <ChrisL> tal: ok, point taken
14:10:41 <ChrisL> Maybe on slide 7, change 'we' to 'the WG'
14:11:11 <ChrisL> jdaggett: so its a transition from three people to the wg; presentation seems to say that
14:13:08 <ChrisL> ChrisL: about the logos
14:13:24 <ChrisL> tal: no objections to logos on the WG slide
14:13:34 <ChrisL> sergeym: browser logos in there too
14:14:21 <ChrisL> Vlad: do we need permission for browser logos
14:15:08 <ChrisL> ChrisL: have the version numbers handy so people know where the support is shipping and where its in development
14:15:36 <ChrisL> tal: add version numbers?
14:15:47 <ChrisL> ChrisL: clutter. just be ready to answer questions
14:15:58 <ChrisL> John: time for a quick demo?
14:16:21 <ChrisL> tal: pulling up a terminal slows things down
14:16:41 <ChrisL> John: UI on the tool?
14:17:13 <ChrisL> John: good to convey usability - typecon panel last year, many of the audience make fonts.
14:17:38 <ChrisL> ... useful to convey a workflow, how easy it is
14:18:12 <ChrisL> ChrisL: screenshot of sfnt2woff foo.otf :)
14:18:56 <ChrisL> John: coordinating the session, what is the best order for speakers
14:19:27 <ChrisL> ChrisL: 10 mins fine for me, and tal should go before me
14:19:59 <ChrisL> ChrisL: on tools slide, add fontforge
14:20:51 <ChrisL> ChrisL: also good to encourage other font creation tools to support woff export
14:21:26 <ChrisL> fontforge   http://fontforge.sourceforge.net/
14:22:23 <ChrisL> Tal: pdf export does not fully represent the slides
14:23:20 <ChrisL> Vlad: other comments on the draft?
14:23:47 <ChrisL> cslye: when introducing the acronym, good to have the full name written on a slide, rather than just speaking it
14:24:03 <Zakim> +sylvaing
14:24:13 <ChrisL> Vlad: on first slide, as it often stays up for a while
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14:24:41 <jdaggett> http://static.typesupply.com/downloads/typecon/2010-08-10_WOFF_TypeCon.pdf
14:25:18 <ChrisL> Dave: just sent a list of company logos, couple missing in high quality
14:25:31 <ChrisL> Topic: F2F logistics
14:26:30 <ChrisL> Vlad: quote for drinks and snacks was pretty high; there is a starbucks in the lobby
14:26:58 <ChrisL> ... also a mall across the street with a food court, so fine for lunch
14:27:48 <ChrisL> Vlad: projector rental is also expensive. anyone can bring one?
14:28:07 <ChrisL> ... especially soneone local, or driving to LA
14:28:14 <ChrisL> cslye: I will be
14:28:35 <ChrisL> .... maybe can get a projector, will ask around
14:29:13 <ChrisL> ... a portable one like sales folk use
14:30:04 <ChrisL> John: what about a screen?
14:30:20 <ChrisL> Vlad: can buy a screen, cheaper than to rent
14:30:34 <ChrisL> sylvaing: white wall can be fine
14:30:44 <cslye> I will report back on projector status at the end of day (PDT).
14:30:44 <ChrisL> jdaggett: paper?
14:31:26 <ChrisL> Vlad: room is being used for several sessions, including css3 font on weds - bigger room, not sure if it has a screen
14:31:40 <ChrisL> sylvaing: do we have a room name/number?
14:31:44 <ChrisL> Vlad: not yet
14:32:05 <ChrisL> ... but rooms are allocated now
14:32:25 <ChrisL> sylvaing: please mail out the room number once we know it
14:33:04 <ChrisL> Vlad: we could all chip in for a screen maybe
14:33:31 <ChrisL> John: cslye please let me know about a projector, impacts the av for the css session too
14:33:51 <ChrisL> ChrisL: networking I assume?
14:34:03 <ChrisL> John: yes, typecon network should be there ...
14:34:24 <ChrisL> cslye: recall that the smaller room has no wireless but larger room does
14:34:29 <erik> otherwise we relocate to starbucks for the meetings as well as the breaks..
14:34:42 <cslye> :)
14:34:44 <ChrisL> Vlad: right next to the lobby
14:35:26 <ChrisL> Vlad: 10-18:30 ok?
14:35:38 <ChrisL> ... anyone arriving that morning?
14:36:01 <sylvaing> arriving the night before as well so this is fine
14:36:46 <ChrisL> jdaggett: is there a phone in the room, so we can get jfkthame on the phone?
14:37:04 <ChrisL> Vlad: not sure, didn't ask. can skype if there is wirelesss
14:37:10 <cslye> Just wondering if we anticipate actually filling the full timeslot. Anybody thought about that?
14:37:48 <sylvaing> (we can use my iPhone as long as we hold it properly)
14:38:06 <ChrisL> cslye: will we use the whole time?
14:38:11 <jdaggett> wise guy...
14:38:48 <ChrisL> ChrisL: depends on the agenda actually
14:38:52 <ChrisL> Topic: Review and approval of the proposed F2F agenda
14:40:12 <ChrisL> Chris: (wordy way of saying its fine)
14:40:37 <ChrisL> jdaggett: one person should take lead on test suite
14:41:18 <ChrisL> ChrisL: thats me
14:41:34 <ChrisL> ChrisL: what about review of CSS3 @fontface tests
14:42:19 <ChrisL> jdaggett: test cases for things where conformance is on browser , an automated or reftest format .... good thing but we have a lot to cover already
14:42:50 <ChrisL> Vlad: would fit under joint work with css/xsl/svg. includes joint tests as well as planning liaisons
14:43:22 <ChrisL> resolved: agenda is approved
14:43:54 <ChrisL> jdaggett: need to nail down a tie for discussion of cooments so jfkthame can know when to call in
14:44:01 <ChrisL> Vlad: starts at 10
14:44:29 <ChrisL> Vlad: 10:30 to 11:30
14:45:03 <John> Another option for projector (and screen?): http://compurentinc.net/default.aspx
14:45:18 <ChrisL> Vlad: so 18:30-19:30 in the UK
14:45:51 <ChrisL> Vlad: maybe assume 10:15 start
14:46:06 <ChrisL> jfkthame: sounds fine, good to have the number to call
14:47:07 <ChrisL> Vlad: we can call jfkthame
14:49:24 <ChrisL> Vlad: observers are permitted, as observers
14:50:10 <ChrisL> jdaggett: please send a message with the exact location
14:50:15 <ChrisL> Vlad: will do
14:50:34 <ChrisL> jfkthame: will make a round of edits so we have a fresher draft
14:51:07 <ChrisL> meeting adjourned
14:51:14 <ChrisL> zakim, list attendees
14:51:14 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been jfkthame, jdaggett, +1.510.816.aaaa, Vlad, ChrisL, cslye, tal, +1.250.247.aabb, +31.70.360.aacc, John, +1.425.882.aadd, erik,
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14:51:23 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
14:51:23 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-webfonts-minutes.html ChrisL
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14:52:01 <Zakim> Attendees were jfkthame, jdaggett, +1.510.816.aaaa, Vlad, ChrisL, cslye, tal, +1.250.247.aabb, +31.70.360.aacc, John, +1.425.882.aadd, erik, +1.415.796.aaee, Dave, sylvaing
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