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16:20:45 <aphillip> zakim, this will be I18N
16:20:45 <Zakim> ok, aphillip; I see I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM scheduled to start in 10 minutes
16:20:53 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs world-visible
16:21:08 <aphillip> Meeting: Internationalization Core Teleconference
16:21:12 <aphillip> Chair: Addison Phillips
16:21:19 <aphillip> Scribe: Addison Phillips
16:21:20 <aphillip> ScribeNick: aphillip
16:21:37 <aphillip> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2010Aug/0000.html
16:21:43 <aphillip> Regrets: Felix, Mati
16:21:52 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:21:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
16:22:13 <aphillip> RRSAgent, set logs public
16:22:19 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
16:22:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
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16:30:10 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has now started
16:30:14 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:30:14 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:30:27 <Zakim> +aphillip
16:30:34 <Zakim> +David
16:30:43 <r12a> zakim, hurry up and call me please
16:30:43 <Zakim> I don't understand 'hurry up and call me', r12a
16:30:57 <r12a> zakim, dial richard please
16:30:57 <Zakim> ok, r12a; the call is being made
16:30:59 <Zakim> +Richard
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16:35:55 <Norbert> zakim, mute norbert
16:35:55 <Zakim> Norbert should now be muted
16:36:13 <aphillip> Topic: Agenda
16:36:29 <aphillip> Topic: Action Items
16:36:41 <aphillip> Aharon: publish latest text of input locale to public core list for approval and then forward if no objections 
16:37:00 <Norbert> zakim, unmute norbert
16:37:00 <Zakim> Norbert should no longer be muted
16:37:13 <aphillip> norbert thought it looked good
16:37:29 <aphillip> Addison to review Media Fragments URI 
16:38:20 <aphillip> ACTION: Aharon: forward text of input locale comment to WG for DOM3 key events
16:38:23 <Norbert> zakim, mute norbert
16:38:23 <Zakim> Norbert should now be muted
16:38:48 <aphillip> addison: comments by next week on media frags
16:38:59 <aphillip> Topic: Info Share
16:39:24 <Norbert> * nothing
16:39:59 <aphillip> Topic: Work on Character Tutorial 
16:40:11 <Zakim> + +1.718.673.aaaa
16:40:16 <aphillip> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-i18n-core/2010JulSep/0097.html
16:40:17 <Norbert> * did see
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16:40:31 <David> zakim. mute David
16:40:54 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/tutorials/tutorial-char-enc/temp
16:41:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
16:42:47 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:42:47 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:43:06 <aphillip> richard: started on this earlier this year
16:43:11 <aphillip> ... but it needs to get finished
16:43:20 <aphillip> ... worked the past few days and now want to share
16:43:44 <aphillip> ... how soon can I take this to next level adn what level should it be?
16:43:48 <aphillip> s/adn/and
16:44:07 <aphillip> ... could go to wide review or just publish and ask for comments
16:44:12 <aphillip> ... change on fly?
16:45:15 <Norbert> zakim, unmute norbert
16:45:15 <Zakim> Norbert should no longer be muted
16:45:23 <David> zakim, unmute David
16:45:23 <Zakim> David was not muted, David
16:46:11 <aphillip> norbert: impression that it won't be seen until announced
16:46:44 <aphillip> addison: announce as draft or announce as "here's a thing" and ask for comments
16:47:23 <aphillip> david: ought to be announced slowly as draft first
16:47:48 <Norbert> zakim, mute norbert
16:47:48 <Zakim> Norbert should now be muted
16:51:31 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
16:51:31 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
16:53:30 <aphillip> aharon: "quick start guide"
16:53:47 <Zakim> + +1.408.349.aabb
16:53:49 <Zakim> -Norbert
16:53:58 <r12a> http://www.w3.org/International/questions/qa-html-encoding-declarations#answer
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16:56:46 <aphillip> ACTION: Richard: announce charset tutorial as draft for review on winter list for Official Announcement in two weeks
16:57:08 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
16:57:08 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
16:58:23 <aphillip> Topic: UTR#20 Future Revision Plan
16:59:24 <aphillip> http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr20/
16:59:32 <aphillip> http://www.w3.org/TR/2007/NOTE-unicode-xml-20070516/
16:59:43 <Zakim> -David
17:01:25 <Zakim> +David
17:01:46 <aphillip> addison: presents proposal from mark davis and TUC
17:02:17 <aphillip> richard: could have errata page for future minor fixes
17:02:29 <aphillip> ... which could help fix past problems
17:09:27 <aphillip> ACTON: addison: write back to Unicode/Mark Davis seeking further information on UTR#20 future requirements and indicating that we don't wish to sever relationship between W3C and TUC documents
17:09:54 <aphillip> ACTION:  addison: write back to Unicode/Mark Davis seeking further information on UTR#20 future requirements and indicating that we don't wish to sever relationship between W3C and TUC documents
17:11:57 <aphillip> Topic: HTML5
17:12:07 <aphillip> richard: concerned that there are issues in html5
17:12:12 <aphillip> ... such as ruby
17:12:27 <aphillip> ... or overriding browser defaults on forms
17:12:51 <aphillip> ... for example, slider control assumes ltr direction
17:13:05 <Aharon> zakim, umute me
17:13:05 <Zakim> I don't understand 'umute me', Aharon
17:13:16 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
17:13:16 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
17:14:29 <aphillip> aharon: problem is that control might not want to be mirrored
17:15:47 <aphillip> addison: possible to mirror control vs. obligatory
17:16:42 <aphillip> aharon: arabic may be more emphatically rtl? 
17:17:32 <aphillip> richard: also question of defaults
17:18:02 <aphillip> ... example I saw used CSS to set 1 on :before and 11 on :after
17:18:19 <aphillip> richard: html5 needs more attention
17:18:27 <Aharon> zakim, mute me
17:18:27 <Zakim> Aharon should now be muted
17:18:27 <aphillip> ... reading Bruce Lawson's book
17:18:46 <aphillip> Topic: Bidi WG Note progress
17:18:51 <Aharon> zakim, unmute me
17:18:51 <Zakim> Aharon should no longer be muted
17:19:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:19:10 <aphillip> aharon: going slowly at moment
17:19:30 <aphillip> ... will send draft of meeting results to richard for offline discuss
17:19:38 <aphillip> norbert: finish and publish meeting minutes
17:19:52 <aphillip> ... some follow up afterwards, burt having minutes on record would help
17:20:16 <aphillip> ACTION: Aharon: publish meeting minutes from bidi meeting
17:20:41 <aphillip> Topic: AOB?
17:21:05 <Zakim> -Norbert
17:21:07 <Zakim> -aphillip
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17:21:11 <Zakim> I18N_CoreWG()12:30PM has ended
17:21:13 <Zakim> Attendees were aphillip, David, Richard, Norbert, +1.718.673.aaaa, Aharon, +1.408.349.aabb
17:21:35 <aphillip> Present: Addison, David, Richard, Norbert, Aharon
17:21:40 <aphillip> RRSAgent, make minutes
17:21:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-minutes.html aphillip
17:21:43 <aphillip> zakim, bye
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17:21:48 <RRSAgent> I see 4 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-actions.rdf :
17:21:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Aharon: forward text of input locale comment to WG for DOM3 key events [1]
17:21:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-irc#T16-38-20
17:21:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Richard: announce charset tutorial as draft for review on winter list for Official Announcement in two weeks [2]
17:21:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-irc#T16-56-46
17:21:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: write back to Unicode/Mark Davis seeking further information on UTR#20 future requirements and indicating that we don't wish to sever relationship between W3C and TUC documents [3]
17:21:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-irc#T17-09-54
17:21:48 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Aharon: publish meeting minutes from bidi meeting [4]
17:21:48 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2010/08/11-core-irc#T17-20-16