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12:55:16 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn 
12:55:16 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs, I see INC_SSN()9:00AM already started
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12:55:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:   SSN XG
12:55:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair:     Laurent
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12:56:24 <david> zakim, +1.206.662.aabb is me
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12:56:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0001.html
12:56:34 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html
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13:02:02 <kerry> laurent --- can you post agenda please?
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13:02:22 <david> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0001.html
13:02:30 <kerry> zakim, who's on the phone?
13:02:30 <Zakim> On the phone I see +1.937.775.aaaa, david, Payam, Andriy, +61.4.097.8.aadd, Arthur
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13:03:28 <david> Per Laurent, Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Aug/0001.html
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13:05:40 <krzysztof_j> i can do it
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13:07:33 <krzysztof_j> can you set the scribenick
13:07:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: SSN Call for papers
13:08:31 <Zakim> +krp
13:09:25 <krzysztof_j> Kerry: any ideas for a keynote speaker for the SSN2010 workshop at ISWC 2010?
13:09:38 <kerry> scribenick: krzysztof_j
13:09:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: XG deliverables/reports 
13:10:36 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Incubator_Report
13:10:56 <krzysztof_j> (@kerry: the SSN deadline is in the first teaching week for most US universities :-( any way to shift it by one week?)
13:11:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> scribenick krzysztof_j
13:12:20 <krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: please check the list for the XG report at: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Incubator_Report
13:15:09 <krzysztof_j> laurent_lefort_cs: we need to integrate the ontology and semantic markup parts with our use cases
13:16:24 <kerry> +q
13:16:46 <krzysztof_j> Andriy: IMO, the main part of the report should be the ontology
13:17:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack kerry
13:19:06 <krzysztof_j> kerry: we should be careful how much (new) topics we add to the final report. it should be rather about the ontology and the markup part
13:20:33 <krp> +q
13:20:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krp
13:21:32 <krp> +q
13:21:47 <krzysztof_j> Kevin: We need to understand first who will read the report before we decide what should go into the report.
13:22:36 <krp> So, beyond a report, I'd hope what we'll end up with is if someone want to use the ontology or the markup, we have a good document to get them going
13:22:53 <kerry> (@krzysztof_j -- ok I'll have a look what we can do. It is pretty tight - I remember when figuring it out - I think it is only 2 weeks allows  for reviews now ..)
13:23:01 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krp
13:23:51 <Payam> +q
13:24:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
13:24:43 <krzysztof_j> Payam: IMO, the most important part should we the ontology, our definition of semantic sensor networks and how ontologiy can help
13:25:15 <krzysztof_j> david: ontology and its *application*
13:26:41 <krp> +q
13:26:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krp
13:27:57 <krzysztof_j> Kevin: we need rather examples for the usefulness of the ontology
13:28:50 <krzysztof_j> Kevin: provide a modeling example like a howTo for the ontology
13:29:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> Jano: Agree with previous points on explaining how to use the ontology
13:29:55 <krp> yes, a howto, that's a good way of thinking about it
13:30:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> Jano: describing the reasoning and the use of SPARQL over the ontology  
13:31:16 <krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j: we also need to show the reasoning part, what do we get from using semantics for the sensor web?
13:32:02 <krzysztof_j> michael: sections 4 and 5 are the crucial parts
13:32:49 <krzysztof_j> Pramod_: examples for the use of the sensor ontology are very important
13:34:23 <krzysztof_j> kerry: a real example that demonstrates the ontology as well as the markup part
13:34:42 <krp> +q
13:35:29 <krzysztof_j> krp:semantic discovery example
13:36:04 <michael> I'll contribute to section 4
13:37:39 <Payam> +q
13:38:12 <Andriy> +q
13:38:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Payam
13:38:21 <krp> -q
13:38:26 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Andriy
13:38:34 <krzysztof_j> Payam: smart products example
13:38:44 <krzysztof_j> Kevin: linked data example
13:39:03 <krzysztof_j> krzysztof_j: we have also linked sensor data examples
13:39:14 <Payam> Linked data example (Payam)
13:39:16 <krp> Is the report deadline the same as the end of the charter?
13:40:06 <krzysztof_j> @kerry: can you put the final deadline here
13:41:04 <krp> it was just a personal practical question -- I'm away from this Friday until after the charter ends
13:41:23 <krp> Oscar's already on leave! :)
13:41:59 <Payam> when is the deadline for contributions? end of this month?
13:42:19 <michael> 3rd September is the deadline
13:44:39 <krp> +q
13:44:50 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krp
13:48:04 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Action plan for DOLCE
13:50:07 <krzysztof_j> we talk by mail :)
13:51:31 <krzysztof_j> I would assume we do it both together
13:52:36 <krzysztof_j> +q
13:53:02 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack krzysztof_j
13:53:07 <michael> +q
13:53:16 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack michael
13:53:33 <krzysztof_j> ok, i am happy to do so
13:54:47 <krzysztof_j> bye bye
13:54:47 <kerry> bye!
13:54:51 <michael> bye
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13:59:40 <laurent_lefort_cs> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Suggested_Ontology_Working_Packages
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14:14:24 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.937.775.aaaa, david, Payam, +44.190.865.aacc, Andriy, Arthur, krzysztof_j, kerry, michael, laurent_lefort_cs, krp
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14:32:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> scribenick: krzysztof_j
14:32:59 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, list attendees
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14:33:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
14:33:43 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
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15:37:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please generate minutes
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