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19:54:47 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, this will be inc_ssn 
19:54:47 <Zakim> ok, laurent_lefort_cs; I see INC_SSN()4:00PM scheduled to start in 6 minutes
19:54:57 <laurent_lefort_cs> Meeting:   SSN XG
19:55:52 <laurent_lefort_cs> Agenda:  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0023.html
19:56:14 <laurent_lefort_cs> Previous: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0020.html
19:58:19 <laurent_lefort_cs> Regrets: Simon, Andriy 
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20:00:57 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has now started
20:01:04 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
20:01:36 <Zakim> + +1.206.662.aaaa
20:01:38 <Arthur> zakim, IPcaller is me
20:01:38 <Zakim> +Arthur; got it
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20:04:45 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, [IPCaller] is me
20:04:45 <Zakim> +laurent_lefort_cs; got it
20:06:56 <Zakim> +??P3
20:07:18 <michael> zakim, ??P3 is me
20:07:18 <Zakim> +michael; got it
20:09:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> ScribeNick: Arthur
20:09:23 <Zakim> +krp
20:10:50 <krp> sounds fine
20:11:06 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Modelling discussion for Deployments Systems Devices 
20:11:28 <michael> http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/Deployments,_Systems_and_Devices
20:15:15 <Arthur> michael: summing up the "Deployments as Processes" on the webpage
20:18:38 <laurent_lefort_cs> +q
20:18:43 <Arthur> ... main idea is to have DOLCE alignement
20:18:57 <laurent_lefort_cs> Question from Andriy: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xg-ssn/2010Jul/0019.html
20:21:32 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack q
20:22:27 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack laurent
20:23:55 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: how to connect "site" with a "deployment"?
20:28:16 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: for Andriy question, we can link deployment to platform via a composition of the relation from deployment to sensor and from sensor to platform 
20:29:30 <krp> I think the later version captures everything from the earlier discussions, doesn't it?
20:29:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> For Laurent's question (how to handle site information - put it in deployment or as a special case of platform) we'll get an example to clarify
20:32:07 <laurent_lefort_cs> Vote on: okay for Michael to publish this version
20:32:11 <laurent_lefort_cs> +1
20:32:14 <michael> +1
20:32:15 <krp> +1
20:32:30 <Arthur> +q
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20:33:21 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack arthur
20:34:03 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: stopping the vote to answer to Arthur's question
20:36:14 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... which is to have a direct relation between platform and deployment
20:36:18 <krp> Deployed System is just a System subclass that has a Deployment
20:37:03 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: DeployedSystem in the diagram is here to illustrate the model but is not part of the model
20:37:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: onPlatform corresponds to the physical relationship
20:38:20 <laurent_lefort_cs> ... The other one (which is not a physical) could be here as well
20:41:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: examples where you deploy lots of things (e.g. buoys and platforms which as gliding robots)
20:50:28 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: the model allows for different uses (one sensor to one platform relation via onPlatform) or relations between bigger deployments and their sites / platforms (could be even regions) 
20:51:36 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: the model allows cases like sensors attached to fish
20:52:12 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack Arthur 
20:52:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> Vote (pass 2): okay for Michael to publish this version 
20:52:58 <laurent_lefort_cs> +1
20:53:01 <david> +1
20:53:05 <Arthur> +1
20:53:06 <krp> +1
20:53:13 <michael> +1
20:54:04 <david> *where* will the ontology be published?  Do we have resolution on where the ontology will live after the XG ends?
20:54:31 <laurent_lefort_cs> Topic: Progress towards the XG deliverables (Laurent)
20:56:51 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: explaining that with PURL urls we  will have more flexibility to continue but the first version should be published on the W#C Incubator web site
20:57:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> Example of ontology documentation: http://www.w3.org/2005/Incubator/ssn/wiki/SensorOntology2009
20:58:32 <krp> yes
21:02:30 <david> what was used to generate the documentation?
21:02:56 <david> Documentation generated using a generation tool derived from the vocab.org toolchain.
21:03:39 <laurent_lefort_cs> Laurent: explaining the principles behind the documentation 
21:08:46 <Arthur> ...this automatically generated documentation contains explanations and links to wiki pages with more information to help with ontology review
21:08:52 <michael> +q
21:09:00 <laurent_lefort_cs> ack michael
21:10:42 <laurent_lefort_cs> Michael: do we want to have the paraphrase (need to answer before Laurent uploads all the other docs)
21:14:41 <Arthur> laurent_lefort_cs: there many things we have discussed before which are not in the wiki. 
21:16:02 <Arthur> ... we have to document how we came to specific solution/decision.
21:17:36 <Arthur> ... the current page represents the current state, but we also need to document the previous steps.
21:19:40 <michael> bye
21:19:43 <Zakim> -michael
21:19:45 <Zakim> - +1.206.662.aaaa
21:19:47 <laurent_lefort_cs> Bye
21:19:49 <Zakim> -Arthur
21:19:51 <Zakim> -krp
21:20:44 <Zakim> -laurent_lefort_cs
21:20:45 <Zakim> INC_SSN()4:00PM has ended
21:20:47 <Zakim> Attendees were +1.206.662.aaaa, Arthur, laurent_lefort_cs, michael, krp
21:21:22 <laurent_lefort_cs> Attendees: David, Arthur, Laurent, Michael, Kevin
21:22:53 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, make log public
21:23:13 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
21:23:13 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:25:55 <laurent_lefort_cs> s/W#C/W3C/
21:26:01 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
21:26:01 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:26:43 <laurent_lefort_cs> Chair: Laurent
21:26:48 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please draft minutes
21:26:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:29:06 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, please generate minutes
21:29:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/28-ssn-minutes.html laurent_lefort_cs
21:29:25 <laurent_lefort_cs> zakim, bye
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21:30:06 <laurent_lefort_cs> rrsagent, bye
21:30:06 <RRSAgent> I see no action items