15:52:07 RRSAgent has joined #soap-jms 15:52:07 logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/07/27-soap-jms-irc 15:52:09 RRSAgent, make logs public 15:52:09 Zakim has joined #soap-jms 15:52:11 Zakim, this will be SJMS 15:52:11 ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes 15:52:12 Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference 15:52:12 Date: 27 July 2010 15:58:28 WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started 15:58:36 +[IBM-Hursley] 15:58:58 +alewis 16:01:19 + +1.512.286.aaaa 16:01:21 padams2 has joined #soap-jms 16:01:50 + +1.209.474.aabb 16:02:26 eric has joined #soap-jms 16:02:46 Chair: Eric 16:03:58 Derek has joined #SOAP-JMS 16:04:01 TOPIC: Administrative items 16:04:33 + +1.708.246.aacc 16:04:46 Eric: Chair will be absent for meeting during week of Aug. 9-13 - shall we skip the meeting? 16:04:57 Mark: I'll be out too - happy to skip 16:05:02 Phil: +1 16:05:16 Amy: (Will be out next week ) 16:06:07 RESOLUTION: We will skip the meeting from 9-13 August 16:06:18 TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe 16:06:22 Scribe: Mark 16:06:30 TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes 16:06:43 The minutes are approved 16:06:51 TOPIC: Review the agenda 16:07:57 Agenda approved without modification 16:08:08 TOPIC: URI Scheme 16:09:06 Eric: Sent updated draft of URI scheme to the list. Main changes are to make it a provisional draft, and to make the JMS reference a normative reference 16:10:38 Mark: A number of RFC2119 words are lower case, but I'm happy with that 16:11:25 Eric: Could take a run at changing 16:12:17 Phil: Agree with Mark - doesn't seem very important - using the words without capitalisation is clear enough 16:12:43 Eric: OK - will submit as a provisional scheme today. 16:12:56 TOPIC: Review action items 16:13:15 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/146 - Eric - no action 16:13:36 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/181 - Eric - can't close (this is the issue of moving to CR) 16:13:57 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/189 - Eric - done resolution for issue 40 16:14:08 close action-189 16:14:08 ACTION-189 Apply resolution for issue 40 closed 16:14:40 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/190 - Eric - done - issue 59 raised 16:14:45 close action-190 16:14:45 ACTION-190 Review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied closed 16:14:54 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/191 - Derek - no progress 16:15:12 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/192 - Mark - done 16:15:21 close action-192 16:15:21 ACTION-192 Send list of known JMS URI formats to the SOAP/JMS list closed 16:16:02 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/193 - Eric - investigate provisional URI process - still needs further investigation 16:16:06 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/194 - Eric 16:16:14 done 16:16:18 close action-194 16:16:18 ACTION-194 Apply the resolutions to Issues 41-46 closed 16:16:54 TOPIC: Raised spec issues: 16:17:19 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/47 - 16:17:55 Eric: topicReplyToName has two unflagged RFC2119 assertions, some inappropriate 16:19:44 Mark: Proposal looks good 16:19:52 Phil: Fine with rewording like this 16:20:42 RESOLUTION: Issue 47 is opened 16:21:49 Eric: proposal is to rewrite the text to eliminate the keywords 16:22:15 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 47 is accepted as written 16:22:29 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/48 16:24:24 Eric: Four unflagged 2119 assertions about message body and content type - more appropriate to move to definition of contentType 16:24:41 RESOLUTION: Issue 48 is opened 16:25:57 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/49 16:26:46 Eric: Section 2.4.1: Another MUST statement without an assertion - describing the intended behaviour of XML parser 16:27:12 RESOLUTION: Issue 49 is opened 16:32:20 Eric: XML parsers will already ignore the encoding 16:32:30 Discussion on whether the bullet is required at all 16:32:52 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 49 is accepted as written 16:33:09 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/50 16:34:46 Eric: The first paragraph in Section 2.5 does not make it clear that SOAP 1.1 must follow the patterns defined in this document 16:35:12 RESOLUTION: Issue 50 is opened 16:37:17 Mark: Suggest the proposal is modified to make it clear that the MEP is specified in this document 16:37:52 Mark: Moving the third paragraph up above the SOAP 1.2 statement 16:38:25 Phil: Agreed - merging the first and 3rd paragraphs 16:38:49 Eric: OK - we need an action for an alternative proposal 16:39:13 action mark to propose an alternative resolution to issue 50 16:39:13 Created ACTION-195 - Propose an alternative resolution to issue 50 [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-08-03]. 16:39:31 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/51 16:44:39 Eric: normative statements are redundant in 2.4 (assertion 2027) and 2.6.1.1 (assertion 2034) and 2.7.1 (assertion 2040) 16:44:52 RESOLUTION: Issue 51 is opened 16:45:46 Eric: Propose rewording and removing assertions 2034 and 2040 16:46:05 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 51 is accepted as written 16:46:19 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/52 16:47:46 Eric: Lower case RFC2119 "must" keyword for JMSReplyTo in 2.6.1.1 16:48:03 RESOLUTION: Issue 52 is opened 16:49:10 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 52 is accepted as written 16:49:33 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/53 16:50:34 Eric: Missing description for failure behaviour in 2.6.1.3 16:52:35 RESOLUTION: Issue 53 is opened 16:53:09 Phil: Suggest we revise the proposal to spell the word fail as "Fail" 16:54:03 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 53 is accepted with the amendment to the word fail as suggested by Phil 16:54:19 http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/54 16:55:33 Eric: In 2.6.2.3 JMSDeliveryMode has an unflagged SHOULD 16:56:31 RESOLUTION: Issue 54 is opened 16:57:26 Eric: Proposal is that SHOULD changes to "ought to" 16:57:54 RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 54 is accepted as stated in the issue text 16:58:41 Out of time 16:58:59 Action Eric: To apply resolutions for the resolved issues above 16:58:59 Created ACTION-196 - Apply resolutions for the resolved issues above [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-08-03]. 16:59:23 TOPIC: AOB? 16:59:39 Phil: Do we have outstanding changes that will affect the test cases? 17:00:11 Eric: The test cases will be simplified by removal of normation assertions and Issue 59 will add test cases for Correlation ID 17:01:05 Phil: Would be good to get the test cases sorted as soon as we can 17:01:09 Eric: Agreed 17:01:47 -alewis 17:01:49 - +1.708.246.aacc 17:01:49 - +1.209.474.aabb 17:01:50 - +1.512.286.aaaa 17:01:50 WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has ended 17:01:53 Attendees were [IBM-Hursley], alewis, +1.512.286.aaaa, +1.209.474.aabb, +1.708.246.aacc 17:01:59 rrsagent, make minutes 17:01:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/27-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip 17:02:52 padams has left #soap-jms 17:03:03 eric has left #soap-jms 17:53:25 Zakim has left #soap-jms