IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-07-27

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Zakim, this will be SJMS
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ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 27 July 2010
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Chair: Eric
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TOPIC: Administrative items
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Eric: Chair will be absent for meeting during week of Aug. 9-13 - shall we skip the meeting?
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Mark: I'll be out too - happy to skip
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Phil: +1
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Amy: (Will be out next week )
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RESOLUTION: We will skip the meeting from 9-13 August
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TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe
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Scribe: Mark
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TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes
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The minutes are approved
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TOPIC: Review the agenda
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Agenda approved without modification
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Eric: Sent updated draft of URI scheme to the list. Main changes are to make it a provisional draft, and to make the JMS reference a normative reference
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Mark: A number of RFC2119 words are lower case, but I'm happy with that
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Eric: Could take a run at changing
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Phil: Agree with Mark - doesn't seem very important - using the words without capitalisation is clear enough
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Eric: OK - will submit as a provisional scheme today.
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TOPIC: Review action items
16:13:15 [mphillip] - Eric - no action
16:13:36 [mphillip] - Eric - can't close (this is the issue of moving to CR)
16:13:57 [mphillip] - Eric - done resolution for issue 40
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close action-189
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ACTION-189 Apply resolution for issue 40 closed
16:14:40 [mphillip] - Eric - done - issue 59 raised
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close action-190
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ACTION-190 Review the test cases once the changes for issue 39 have been applied closed
16:14:54 [mphillip] - Derek - no progress
16:15:12 [mphillip] - Mark - done
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close action-192
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ACTION-192 Send list of known JMS URI formats to the SOAP/JMS list closed
16:16:02 [mphillip] - Eric - investigate provisional URI process - still needs further investigation
16:16:06 [mphillip] - Eric
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close action-194
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ACTION-194 Apply the resolutions to Issues 41-46 closed
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TOPIC: Raised spec issues:
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Eric: topicReplyToName has two unflagged RFC2119 assertions, some inappropriate
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Mark: Proposal looks good
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Phil: Fine with rewording like this
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RESOLUTION: Issue 47 is opened
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Eric: proposal is to rewrite the text to eliminate the keywords
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 47 is accepted as written
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Eric: Four unflagged 2119 assertions about message body and content type - more appropriate to move to definition of contentType
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RESOLUTION: Issue 48 is opened
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Eric: Section 2.4.1: Another MUST statement without an assertion - describing the intended behaviour of XML parser
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RESOLUTION: Issue 49 is opened
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Eric: XML parsers will already ignore the encoding
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Discussion on whether the bullet is required at all
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 49 is accepted as written
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Eric: The first paragraph in Section 2.5 does not make it clear that SOAP 1.1 must follow the patterns defined in this document
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RESOLUTION: Issue 50 is opened
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Mark: Suggest the proposal is modified to make it clear that the MEP is specified in this document
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Mark: Moving the third paragraph up above the SOAP 1.2 statement
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Phil: Agreed - merging the first and 3rd paragraphs
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Eric: OK - we need an action for an alternative proposal
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action mark to propose an alternative resolution to issue 50
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Created ACTION-195 - Propose an alternative resolution to issue 50 [on Mark Phillips - due 2010-08-03].
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16:44:39 [mphillip]
Eric: normative statements are redundant in 2.4 (assertion 2027) and (assertion 2034) and 2.7.1 (assertion 2040)
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RESOLUTION: Issue 51 is opened
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Eric: Propose rewording and removing assertions 2034 and 2040
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 51 is accepted as written
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Eric: Lower case RFC2119 "must" keyword for JMSReplyTo in
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RESOLUTION: Issue 52 is opened
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 52 is accepted as written
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Eric: Missing description for failure behaviour in
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RESOLUTION: Issue 53 is opened
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Phil: Suggest we revise the proposal to spell the word fail as "Fail"
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 53 is accepted with the amendment to the word fail as suggested by Phil
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Eric: In JMSDeliveryMode has an unflagged SHOULD
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RESOLUTION: Issue 54 is opened
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Eric: Proposal is that SHOULD changes to "ought to"
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RESOLUTION: The proposal to resolve Issue 54 is accepted as stated in the issue text
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Action Eric: To apply resolutions for the resolved issues above
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Created ACTION-196 - Apply resolutions for the resolved issues above [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-08-03].
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Phil: Do we have outstanding changes that will affect the test cases?
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Eric: The test cases will be simplified by removal of normation assertions and Issue 59 will add test cases for Correlation ID
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Phil: Would be good to get the test cases sorted as soon as we can
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Eric: Agreed
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