00:00:50 <JF> I am back, and here as well as dialed into the conference bridge
00:00:58 <janina> zakim, who's here?
00:00:59 <Judy> rrsagent, bye
00:00:59 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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00:01:31 <janina> zakim, this will be WAI_PF(a11y)
00:01:31 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
00:01:46 <Judy> janina, i don't think we need to minute
00:01:51 <Judy> oh -- 
00:01:57 <Judy> you need it to call you, right?
00:02:07 <Judy> ummm, lemme try something...
00:02:09 <janina> zakim, this will be WAI_PFWG(A11Y)
00:02:09 <Zakim> I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, janina
00:02:23 <janina> OK, old conference setup is history
00:02:48 <janina> I can call in.
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14:56:30 <MikeSmith> trackbot, start meeting
14:56:32 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
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14:56:34 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2119
14:56:34 <Zakim> ok, trackbot; I see WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM scheduled to start in 4 minutes
14:56:35 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:56:35 <trackbot> Date: 22 July 2010
14:56:48 <MikeSmith> zakim, code?
14:56:48 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), MikeSmith
14:57:21 <MikeSmith> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0101.html
14:57:26 <MikeSmith> chair: MikeSmith
14:57:41 <Zakim> WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM has now started
14:57:48 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
14:58:04 <Zakim> + +49.179.103.aaaa
14:58:05 <MikeSmith> 11http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/index.php?title=Scribe_List
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14:59:39 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
14:59:39 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
14:59:41 <Zakim> +Mike
14:59:45 <janina> zakim, call janina
14:59:45 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
14:59:46 <Zakim> +Janina
15:00:47 <MikeSmith> kliehm, thanks much
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15:00:56 <MikeSmith> scribenick: kliehm 
15:01:03 <Zakim> + +1.514.312.aabb
15:01:09 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
15:01:19 <MichaelC> zakim, aabb is Denis_Boudreau
15:01:19 <Zakim> +Denis_Boudreau; got it
15:01:21 <dboudreau> Hi everyone
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15:02:33 <Zakim> + +44.207.391.aacc
15:02:54 <MichaelC> zakim, aacc is Marco_Ranon
15:02:54 <Zakim> +Marco_Ranon; got it
15:04:06 <MikeSmith> zakim, who's on the phone?
15:04:06 <Zakim> On the phone I see kliehm (muted), Eric, Gregory_Rosmaita, Mike, Janina, Denis_Boudreau (muted), Michael_Cooper, John_Foliot, Marco_Ranon
15:05:00 <MichaelC> regrets+ Laura_Carlson
15:05:09 <MichaelC> agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0101.html
15:05:41 <MikeSmith> Topic: Actions Review
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15:05:48 <MikeSmith> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/open
15:06:15 <MikeSmith> action-51?
15:06:15 <trackbot> ACTION-51 -- Steve Faulkner to document rationale for why having aria-labelledby should be an exception for not allowing alt (rebuttal to "layering violation" argument) -- due 2010-07-08 -- OPEN
15:06:15 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/51
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15:06:57 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:07:03 <kliehm> Yes, labelled-by and role rationale is in.
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15:07:29 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0038.html
15:07:30 <MikeSmith> action-51: labelled-by and role rationale appear to be in, and seems we can close this action
15:07:30 <trackbot> ACTION-51 Document rationale for why having aria-labelledby should be an exception for not allowing alt (rebuttal to "layering violation" argument) notes added
15:07:43 <Stevef> zakim, IPcaller is Stevef
15:07:43 <Zakim> +Stevef; got it
15:07:50 <Zakim> +??P8
15:07:57 <Ben> zakim, ??P8 is Ben_Caldwell
15:07:57 <Zakim> +Ben_Caldwell; got it
15:08:02 <MikeSmith> action-51: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0038.html
15:08:02 <trackbot> ACTION-51 Document rationale for why having aria-labelledby should be an exception for not allowing alt (rebuttal to "layering violation" argument) notes added
15:08:55 <MikeSmith> close action-51
15:08:56 <trackbot> ACTION-51 Document rationale for why having aria-labelledby should be an exception for not allowing alt (rebuttal to "layering violation" argument) closed
15:09:05 <MikeSmith> action-50?
15:09:05 <trackbot> ACTION-50 -- Janina Sajka to add some introductory text to requirement docs clarifying that these are user requirements, not necessarily UA requirements -- due 2010-07-08 -- OPEN
15:09:05 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/50
15:09:43 <kliehm> Janina: It's overcome by events, everybody is clear that these are UA requirements.
15:09:44 <MikeSmith> action-50: overcome by events, everybody is quite clear on this
15:09:44 <trackbot> ACTION-50 Add some introductory text to requirement docs clarifying that these are user requirements, not necessarily UA requirements notes added
15:09:52 <MikeSmith> close action-50
15:09:52 <trackbot> ACTION-50 Add some introductory text to requirement docs clarifying that these are user requirements, not necessarily UA requirements closed
15:10:13 <MikeSmith> action-47?
15:10:13 <trackbot> ACTION-47 -- Steve Faulkner to file a bug with HTML 5 about making autocomplete consistent with ARIA, per comment 289 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/comments/update?comment_id=289 -- due 2010-07-08 -- OPEN
15:10:13 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/47
15:11:06 <kliehm> Steve F.: Not done yet, adding another week.
15:11:19 <MikeSmith> action-47 due 2010-07-29
15:11:19 <trackbot> ACTION-47 File a bug with HTML 5 about making autocomplete consistent with ARIA, per comment 289 http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/Group/comments/update?comment_id=289 due date now 2010-07-29
15:11:46 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:11:47 <MikeSmith> action-28?
15:11:47 <trackbot> ACTION-28 -- Gregory Rosmaita to - prepare text for SteveF's guidance document about future of data-mining using RDFPic methodology outlined in post to list -- due 2010-07-15 -- OPEN
15:11:47 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/track/actions/28
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15:12:30 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Alt_tech_appendix
15:12:35 <cyns> Zakim, who is on the phone?
15:12:35 <Zakim> On the phone I see kliehm (muted), Eric, Gregory_Rosmaita, Mike, Janina, Denis_Boudreau (muted), Michael_Cooper, John_Foliot, Marco_Ranon, Stevef, Ben_Caldwell, [IPcaller]
15:12:38 <oedipus> action-28: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Alt_tech_appendix
15:12:38 <trackbot> ACTION-28 - prepare text for SteveF's guidance document about future of data-mining using RDFPic methodology outlined in post to list notes added
15:12:39 <kliehm> Gregory: Will be done on the weekend.
15:12:45 <cyns> Zakim, IPCaller is me
15:12:45 <Zakim> +cyns; got it
15:12:51 <MikeSmith> action-28: http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/HTML/wiki/Alt_tech_appendix
15:12:51 <trackbot> ACTION-28 - prepare text for SteveF's guidance document about future of data-mining using RDFPic methodology outlined in post to list notes added
15:12:54 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:13:13 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:13:14 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
15:13:28 <kliehm> Gergory: Work consists mainly of getting it on the wiki and cross-checking it against the spec.
15:13:29 <MikeSmith> action-28 due 2010-07-29
15:13:29 <trackbot> ACTION-28 - prepare text for SteveF's guidance document about future of data-mining using RDFPic methodology outlined in post to list due date now 2010-07-29
15:13:59 <kliehm> s/Gergory/Gregory/
15:14:21 <MikeSmith> Topic: canvas subteam report
15:15:10 <MikeSmith> q?
15:15:39 <kliehm> Mike: There haven't been any subgroup calls recently, but discussions on the mailing list. Rich has been in contact with the people who wrote a proposal.
15:16:08 <oedipus> chaals' alternate proposal: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0192.html
15:17:17 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0175.html
15:17:30 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Map4NotAdom
15:18:00 <oedipus> rich questions to chaals: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0181.html
15:18:15 <oedipus> chaals reply to rich and james: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0182.html
15:19:04 <MikeSmith> q?
15:19:06 <oedipus> http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jun/0192.html
15:19:44 <oedipus> paulc, not a fully baked counter-proposal
15:19:45 <kliehm> Gregory: We wanted to push our proposal and Chaals to push his independently until the latter reaches a state where we can integrate both into one.
15:20:23 <paulc> http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-074
15:21:05 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibility
15:21:14 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/canvasaccessibilitynonav
15:21:56 <kliehm> Paul C.: There are two change proposals, July 30 is the deadline for issue 74, it is the responsibility of the TF to come up with a proposal if Chaals fails to update his.
15:22:08 <oedipus> GJR remembers this conversation, given timelag with chaal's proposal we would submit the 2 under issue-74 and let chaals to move forward when submitted to HTML WG
15:22:29 <oedipus> paulc, i gave him a reminder yesterday in person
15:23:12 <MikeSmith> q?
15:24:12 <kliehm> Discussion whether Chaals' proposal is sufficiently complete to merge it with the TF's proposal.
15:24:24 <janina> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/Map4NotAdom
15:24:56 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
15:24:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/22-html-a11y-minutes.html MikeSmith
15:24:57 <oedipus> chaals' latest post: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2010Jul/0072.html
15:25:23 <oedipus> chaals from previous email: "I *think* it's ready"
15:25:30 <kliehm> Steve: Chaals' proposal seeks to maintain the charet tracking idea which is substantial to the TF's proposal.
15:26:29 <MikeSmith> q?
15:27:06 <oedipus> prepare CANVAS for poll (minutes) http://www.w3.org/2010/06/07-html-a11y-minutes.html#item01
15:27:22 <MikeSmith> q?
15:28:14 <kliehm> Paul C.: Will reply to Chaals sending a polite reminder to make sure either proposal is being progressed.
15:28:16 <oedipus> canvas discussion on apple's proposals: http://www.w3.org/2010/06/03-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02
15:28:56 <kliehm> Mike: Our main concern should be Hixie's critics on the feasibility of the caret tracking.
15:28:59 <oedipus> "RESOLUTION: HTML-a11y taskforce supports the proposal  http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/att-0054/2dcontext10-June-7.html  as a resolution for ISSUE-74. Note that we *expect* a counter-proposal (based on image maps) which we would also support, but believe the wider working group should choose between them." http://www.w3.org/2010/06/10-html-a11y-minutes.html#item02
15:29:28 <kliehm> Steve: Rich is in contact with Hixie, there's been conversation on the list.
15:29:49 <Zakim> +Rich
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15:30:19 <MikeSmith> q?
15:31:38 <kliehm> Rich: Ian Hickson and Josh from Opera gave some feedback on the canvas proposal. I'm currently going through addressing their points. Once I'm done with this I will look at Chaals'.
15:31:58 <oedipus> note: it may be easier to track canvas issues by consulting the public-canvas-api email archive (http://lists.w3.org/archives/public/public-canvas-api)
15:31:59 <MikeSmith> RRSAgent, make minutes
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15:32:12 <kliehm> Rich: Seems like people would like both solutions. I'm working on blending it.
15:32:20 <Zakim> -cyns
15:34:30 <kliehm> Paul C.: You should say on the WG telcon we are in the process to review the proposals and that we are working on a single one.
15:35:03 <MikeSmith> zakim, mute me
15:35:03 <Zakim> sorry, MikeSmith, I do not know which phone connection belongs to you
15:35:11 <MikeSmith> zakim, Mike is me
15:35:11 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
15:35:50 <Zakim> +[IPcaller]
15:36:11 <kliehm> Rich: Hixie had a question about the focus rectangle since the drawing path allows all kinds of shapes. I'm working on a solution.
15:37:47 <oedipus> please consult the threads in http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-canvas-api/2010AprJun/ to get a clear picture of canvas development
15:37:58 <kliehm> Rich: Question was what happens when people select and mark text. Hixie was of the opinion that this won't happen, otherwise they would look on how Windows handles those cases. Rich is going through the mails.
15:38:06 <oedipus> zakim, who is noisy
15:38:06 <Zakim> I don't understand 'who is noisy', oedipus
15:38:25 <oedipus> http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/aria/
15:38:57 <kliehm> Rich: We have to get ARIA out on another last call and have to get ARIA integration done. So there's a bottleneck. With that background, how do we handle the deadline.
15:40:00 <kliehm> Janina: The deadline is for alternative proposals, it doesn't apply to finalizing a solution.
15:40:59 <Zakim> -MikeSmith
15:41:15 <kliehm> Rich: I want to merge this before August 9.
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15:41:43 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, call Mike
15:41:43 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmithX; the call is being made
15:41:45 <Zakim> +Mike
15:42:40 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, code?
15:42:40 <Zakim> the conference code is 2119 (tel:+1.617.761.6200 tel:+33.4.26.46.79.03 tel:+44.203.318.0479), MikeSmithX
15:42:42 <kliehm> Paul: If issues remain open, like caret drawing, just mention that in the proposal and we can create a separate issue.
15:42:53 <Zakim> +[IPcaller.a]
15:43:05 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, [IPcaller.a] is me
15:43:05 <Zakim> +MikeSmithX; got it
15:43:42 <kliehm> Topic: Subgroup reportings - ARIA integration
15:43:54 <Stevef> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ARIAinHTML5
15:45:13 <kliehm> Steve: I think our document is ready to a point to bring it up before the TF, perhaps not ready for the WG yet.
15:45:40 <oedipus> stevef's ARIAinHTML change proposal "Resolves ISSUE-85 and ISSUE -109"
15:46:20 <oedipus> s/stevef's ARIAinHTML/stevef's ARIAinHTML5/
15:46:42 <Stevef> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/wiki/ChangeProposals/ARIAinHTML5
15:46:54 <Stevef> ARIA in HTML5: replace current text of section 3.2.6
15:47:31 <kliehm> Rich: I came up with a change in the ARIA spec to address issues detected by that ARIA integration change proposal.
15:48:13 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
15:48:27 <oedipus> note: http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/HTML5/aria-html5-proposal.html replaces http://dev.w3.org/html5/spec/embedded-content-0.html#annotations-for-assistive-technology-products-aria
15:48:35 <Zakim> +[Microsoft]
15:49:12 <kliehm> Mike: We should try to get further feedback/responses to the proposal by email.
15:49:32 <kliehm> Cynthia: Some editorial work needs to be done.
15:51:27 <paulc> Re issue-74: Charles's change proposal has been added to http://dev.w3.org/html5/status/issue-status.html#ISSUE-074 
15:51:52 <Zakim> -Mike
15:52:23 <kliehm> Steve: Either a survey or a call for consensus should be done soon so that the proposal can be forwarded to the WG.
15:52:34 <MikeSmithX> q?
15:52:35 <oedipus> zakim, who is noisy?
15:52:47 <Zakim> oedipus, listening for 11 seconds I heard sound from the following: Rich (30%), MikeSmithX (66%), Janina (13%)
15:53:15 <oedipus> GJR suggests a 48 or 72 hour CfC
15:53:44 <oedipus> proposed replacement prose (stevef) http://www.paciellogroup.com/blog/misc/HTML5/aria-html5-proposal.html
15:53:55 <kliehm> Mike/Janina: Request people for edits, start CfC late Monday or early Tuesday.
15:56:18 <kliehm> Cynthia: I think it is hard to understand from the spec what the rationale for some elements is, we are explaining it in the text. Feedback welcome how to make our points stronger.
15:56:50 <MikeSmithX> Topic: Keyboard Access Requirements from PFWg
15:57:05 <oedipus> Keyboard Access Requirements from PFWG: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-wai-pf/2010JulSep/0058.html -- note these are requirments for which the TF will decide what specific elements or attributes (existing or needed) are necessary for implementation
15:57:42 <oedipus> 2 minute warning
15:57:47 <kliehm> Mike: We'll post that to the wiki.
15:59:03 <kliehm> Michael: Chairs talked about creating a subgroup for bug triage. No response on the mailing list yet. We'd like to see Martin and Marco.
15:59:59 <kliehm> Michael: +Sally
16:00:18 <kliehm> Marco + Martin: ack.
16:00:51 <Zakim> -[Microsoft]
16:01:09 <Zakim> -Eric
16:01:10 <oedipus> i/Michael: Chairs talked/TOPIC: Bug Triage Team Update/
16:01:11 <Zakim> -Stevef
16:01:15 <dboudreau> have a great week all
16:01:18 <Zakim> -Rich
16:01:20 <Zakim> -Ben_Caldwell
16:01:20 <Zakim> -Marco_Ranon
16:01:20 <MikeSmithX> Zakim, drop Mike
16:01:21 <Zakim> MikeSmithX is being disconnected
16:01:21 <Zakim> -MikeSmithX
16:01:22 <kliehm> zakim, unmute me
16:01:22 <Zakim> -John_Foliot
16:01:22 <Zakim> kliehm should no longer be muted
16:01:25 <Zakim> -[IPcaller]
16:01:27 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:01:32 <kliehm> zakim, mute me
16:01:32 <Zakim> kliehm should now be muted
16:01:36 <Zakim> -Janina
16:01:38 <Zakim> -Gregory_Rosmaita
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16:01:51 <Zakim> -Denis_Boudreau
16:02:04 <kliehm> zakim, who participated?
16:02:04 <Zakim> I don't understand your question, kliehm.
16:02:41 <kliehm> zakim, list participants
16:02:41 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Michael_Cooper, +49.179.103.aaaa, Eric, kliehm, Gregory_Rosmaita, Janina, +1.514.312.aabb, Denis_Boudreau, John_Foliot, +44.207.391.aacc,
16:02:44 <Zakim> ... Marco_Ranon, Stevef, Ben_Caldwell, cyns, paulc, Rich, MikeSmith, [IPcaller], Mike, MikeSmithX, [Microsoft]
16:03:12 <kliehm> RRSagent, make minutes
16:03:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/22-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm
16:04:56 <kliehm> RRSagent, stop log
16:04:56 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', kliehm.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:05:14 <kliehm> rrsagent, stop log
16:05:14 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'stop log', kliehm.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:05:42 <kliehm> zakim, please part
16:05:42 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees were Michael_Cooper, +49.179.103.aaaa, Eric, kliehm, Gregory_Rosmaita, Janina, +1.514.312.aabb, Denis_Boudreau, John_Foliot,
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16:06:23 <oedipus> s/I am back, and here as well as dialed into the conference bridge//
16:06:27 <oedipus> s/janina, i don't think we need to minute//
16:06:30 <oedipus> s/oh --//
16:06:33 <oedipus> s/you need it to call you, right?//
16:06:40 <oedipus> s/ummm, lemme try something...//
16:06:46 <oedipus> s/OK, old conference setup is history//
16:06:56 <oedipus> s/I can call in.//
16:07:06 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/22-html-a11y-minutes.html oedipus
16:08:47 <oedipus> present- +49.179.103.aaaa
16:08:52 <oedipus> present- +1.514.312.aabb
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16:10:00 <kliehm> rrsagent, make minutes
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16:11:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/22-html-a11y-minutes.html kliehm
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16:15:39 <RRSAgent> I see no action items