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Michael: Geolocation- showing positions, important for mobile devices, can get real time position of yourself while web browser running
<Kangchan> ScribeNick: Hyejin
Michael: New form field types-
validates type of input in the fields
... client side real time validation
... without Java script
... Audio+Video- part of html dom, can use CSS and other html
codes to control video on the web
<Kangchan> Topic : II. Trends of new Web technology in W3C
Michael: Canvas- Drawing API
supported by most of browsers, IE9, etc.
... WebGL - use Open GL capability of devices; applications
would be mostly games, 3D games
... CSS Selectors - let you easily format and design
webpagew
<Kangchan> Scribe: Hyejin
Michael: Columns- reformats
columns depending on no. of columns you have; automatically
adjusts webpage columns for devices with different
resolutions
... Opacity - allows two levels of opacity; useful for web
designers
... Rounded corners- control corners of borders
... Transitions - example of programming of CSS;
... allows dynamic behavior of objects
... Transforms - dynamic behavior of objects; will be very
popular for web designers; can control objets easily without
using java script
Seungyun: Asking for questions
Kangchan: What is the difference between html4 & 5 from the perspective of device manufactueres?
Michael: instead of just showing
documetns, you can create applications, integrate video; easier
to develop applications by third party developers; using
browsers to interface with applications;
... You can use the kind of features you use from Flash,
Silverlight with html5
... no need to download plug ins
Michael: everyone can use open source instead of using certain vendor applications
Kazuyuki's presentation starts
Kazuyuki: Introducting to W3C
Keio office
... Several difficult issues on html5 being discussed-
... Japanese device vendors mention there should be some kind
of extension for new devices required
... We have open discussions by both W3C members and
non-members
... HTML5, SVG,
... discussed within Local IG which is useful to promote W3C's
presence in local meetings;
... We have strong collaboration with Korea and Chian
... Web on TV Workshop to be held in 2-3 September 2010 in
Tokyo Japan
... purpose of the workshop- identify use cases and
requirements for smarter integration of Web tech, broadcasting
tech, etc.
... Recently proposed WG- Notification WG, Model-based UI WG;
XGs-Audio XG, HTML speech XG
... HTML speech incubator group charter's initiating members -
Voxeo, MS, openstream, google, AT&T
... Asking for participant's expectations on W3C activities
Seungyun: Asking for questions
LGE: More information on Notification WG, Model-based UI WG?
Kazuyuki: purpose of model based UI - to create simple xml language; focuses on approaches to generate both html and xml at once
Michael: Notification WG- we only
have 'draft' WG charter atm; W3C Advisory committee will review
if there are any conflicts in work, and so on
... Web Notification WG creation decision will be made in a few
weeks. This group will develop notification mechanisms to send
notifications to platform layer.
Wonsuk: Questions on HTML5 Japanese Interest Group: Operation, meeting intervals, other interest groups in Japan?
Kazuyuki: F2F meeting is not
required and it should be defined by W3G charter
... we are planning to set up a meeting asap
... we would like to collaborate with Korea
Seungyun: How Japanese HTML5 IG deliver your opinion to W3C HTML5 IG?
Kazuyuki: we are following W3C's charter and procedures
Michael: Since IGs are working in
their own language, I think that it is important to provide
reports on the work being done within each IG
... Regarding MS not standardizing DB language, having no
single SQL syntax becomes the problem.; Oracle, MySQL all use
different language; If there is a standard for DB langauges,
all different companies would need to change their own
languages; Companies don't like standardizing client side sql.;
Instead, we have come up with Indexed DB and companies are
implementing it.
<Kangchan> Mailing list for HTML5 JP IG -> http://lists.w3.org/ARchives/Public/public-html-ig-jp/
LGE's presentation on "LG Electronics Joins W3C " starts
Dong-Young: AC rep of LGE
... Tentative membership started on July 13; We wanted to join
W3C in July to participate in privacy workshop (hosted by
Vodafone), DAP WG meeting
... Reasons for joining W3C - as web is evolving into an
application platform for mobile phones and other devices, and
being a mobile device manufacturer, it is important for us to
follow on web standards
... Web is expanding to many devices, and web will be the
technology for convergence;
... web has strong user experience on PC/web, phones
... We are interested in primarily on web application platform
WGs (DAP, Web Applications, Geolocation)
... , HTML5 WG, TV/Media
... To summarize our focus areas are web tech on mobile phones,
TV; and web technology for convergence
Seungyun: We are excited to have LGE as a new member
Michael: We are excited to follow
on technology development in Korea and excited to have LGE as a
new member
... Question - Does LGE have a software group working on
browser development etc.?
Dong-Young: Yes we have a group
developing software for mobile phones
... I'm not at marketing or product development division but I
have some opinions that we can develop walled garden services
on TVs
Michael: Users want to use services what they are already using with no extra charge on different devices.
Dong-Young: Apple and Google TV will break the walled garden
Jonghong: Augmented Reality on
the Web
... Recently, interests in AR on the web's has been
increasing
... AR is a term for a live direct or indirect view of a
physical real-world environment whose elements are merged with
computer generated virtula imagery
... i.e. mixed reality
... AR applications - sekai camera, yelp, my car finder,
etc.
... Showing AR demos;
... AR platform consist of Visualization, Information
ARchitecture, Context Awareness
... History of AR - started from 1970 and developed further
with GPS and smartphones technologies
... Two trends of AR are 1) Visualization Approach; 2)
Informative Approach
... Viewing two trends of AR respect to focus, UI,
requirements, target devices, system type, ...
... AR Software - the most important software for AR is the AR
browser
... geodata mapping, 2d 3d rendering, linking of websites to
phones, etc. are important technologies
... Augmented Information for whom, for what, when, where, why,
how should be identified
... AR contents service framework- AR contents provider
provides content to users,
users need to use contents from different providers but due to interoperability issues it is not the case currently
Jonghong: standardization is
required to resolve these issues
... why do we need AR browsers? - W3C considers to develop AR
capabilities in the current browsers
... AR Interoperability issues being presented
... AR contents markup&format, 3D interactive AR/MR
contents, AR data format are current standardization
issues
... AR on the web - assumes web user agent using html5
... through HTTP +XHR
... presenting lists of current standards, working specs, and
possible future items for web user agent
... ETRI proposed to establish a working group (IG or WG);
working items to be included are HTML5, live video control, web
application, Registration & 3D object integration,
interaction &event processing
... AR on the web Workshop was held on 15-16 June 2010,
Barcelona
... Layar's presentation on AR at the workshop - Layer owns an
AR platform
... there were standardization issues raised for developing
such platform such as requesting format, list of POIs, live and
dynamic information, representation of stories and games,
etc.
... POI working group was established after discussions
... AR standardization in other bodies - ISO/IEC JTC 1
SWG-planning, ISO/IEC JTC1 SC24, OMA CD WG - Mobile AR
... mobile AR work undergoing in LGE overlaps with work items
in W3C and we need to clarify work items to be done in
Korea
Michael: Can you tell me about Orientation API spec?
<kaz> orientation API
Seungyun: Introduction to W3C
Korea Office
... will be presented
Kangchan: Roles of AC
representative - focal point of each member, AC rep is a
communication channel notifies all the information from W3C to
each membership company
... There are different authority to access W3C websites
... based on the type of user
... and different mailing lists which are accessible by AC
Reps
... AC Reps analyze and decide which information to share and
dispatch to their company thus it is very important that AC
reps follow up on W3C acitivities
... AC Reps can vote on major decisions through
questionnaires
... AC Rep-to-Team Communication - Each member's W3C activities
depend on how active AC Reps will respond to W3C
information
... AC Rep can participate in elections
... W3C Member Submission is an official proposal document to
W3C which W3C will consider the document to decide on actions
to be taken
... Members can submit joint Member Submission
... W3C Fellow is a staff of W3C who represents and works for
W3C; Funding is provided by mother affiliation
... Member Internal Communication - AC Reps adjusts internal
issues such as managing number of participants to each WG,
.
... Member to Public - AC reps can provide, modify company
information on the W3C website.
... Member Submission procedures
... Chairman's Handbook would provide useful information on the
procedures in W3C
... Team-to-Member communication is done mainly by email and
website
... There are weekly newsletters published
... AC Reps should keep up to date of their company
information, take care of membership fee, member database
... Search function is available within mailing lists
... W3C Web on TV Workshop; 2-3 Sep 2010, Keio University,
Tokyo, Japan
... Planning to provide Korean, Chinese interpretation at the
workshop
... considering the participants' country of origin
... Next AC meeting will be held on 1-5 Nov 2010, Lyon,
France
... International Web Accessibility Semnars will be held on 6
Oct, NIA, Korea
... ISWC2010 meeting will be held on 8-11 Nov in Shanghai
Seungyun: W3C Korea Office Operation
Seungyun: Web technology is
increasingly becoming more significant in this technology
era
... Our goals are to encourage and support of W3C activities to
Korean members
... Regarding W3C issues, until now Mobile web and
accessibility were major interests in Korea, but there are
interests in other issues being raised nowadays. Korea
currently has 6 members.
... Korean Government's need to participate in web technology
is increasing
... Korean Government including KCC, MKE, MCST, MOPAS
... Mobile Web Forum became a W3C member to help SMEs to
participate in W3C standardization activities
... There are questions about benefits of being a member of W3C
as W3C has royalty free patent policy
... MWI work is almost finished now so there are also questions
about issues to focus on within W3C
... Future plan - talks given by office staffs, support for
member activity,
... we are trying to host W3C meetings in Korea
... so that Korean industry can be boosted up and take lead in
some of the roles
... We are planning to initiate W3C HTML IG in Korea
... and also get consultation from Japanese office
... Establishing of authorized translation process, supporting
of e-government activity, renewal of W3C homepage are under
consideration atm
... I would like to introduce two participants at this
workshop
Manyoung: Business and Technology
Specialist
... We are aware of the need of having a close communication
with business players
... Decision makers should be aware of the importance of web
technology that we are planning to give presentations on such
issues from conferences and events
... There is no decent procedures to provide information to the
media and public that we are planning to develop appropriate
channels
... I have experienced many manufacturers suffering with web
standards and technologies and it is still going on that I
thought that it is important for Korea to have a systematic
approach within W3c to inform the industry and for the industry
to stay updated and to lead the global industry
... This is why I have volunteered to be a Business and
Technology Specialist at W3C Korea office, and I hope to
promote web technologies widely in Korea
Yung-ho_park: 2014 WWW Conference
overview- no. of participants expected- 1000
... Geographic balance of hosting country is considered in
deciding host countries and we expect to host 2014
International WWW Conference in Daegu, Korea
Seungyun: FYI, we need to
consider if Korea office will support hosting the conference,
and also need to decide the level of involvement in hosting the
conference.
... We will further consider on this issue and may ask our
members on any assistance or help needed.
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