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15:57:20 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be HTML
15:57:20 <Zakim> HTML matches both WAI_PFWG(HTML TF)11:00AM and HTML_WG()12:00PM
15:57:21 <trackbot> Meeting: HTML Weekly Teleconference
15:57:21 <trackbot> Date: 15 July 2010
15:57:29 <rubys> zakim, this will be HTML_WG
15:57:29 <Zakim> ok, rubys, I see HTML_WG()12:00PM already started
15:57:32 <paulc> zakim, [Microsoft] has paulc
15:57:32 <Zakim> +paulc; got it
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15:57:43 <Zakim> +Plh
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15:58:04 <paulc> zakim, [microsoft] has paulc
15:58:04 <Zakim> paulc was already listed in [Microsoft], paulc
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16:00:06 <adrianba> zakim, [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
16:00:06 <Zakim> +adrianba, franko; got it
16:00:15 <paulc> scribe: paulc
16:02:35 <MikeSmith> Zakim, call Mike
16:02:35 <Zakim> ok, MikeSmith; the call is being made
16:02:36 <Zakim> +Michael_Cooper
16:02:37 <Zakim> +Mike
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16:02:48 <janina> zakim, call janina
16:02:48 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
16:02:50 <Zakim> +Janina
16:02:55 <plh> scribeNick: paulc
16:03:14 <MikeSmith> Zakim, Mike is me
16:03:14 <Zakim> +MikeSmith; got it
16:03:21 <MikeSmith> Zakim, mute me
16:03:21 <Zakim> MikeSmith should now be muted
16:03:53 <plh> -> http://www.w3.org/2002/03/RRSAgent#formatMinutes RRSAgent and scribe[Nick]
16:03:54 <pimpbot> Title: RRSAgent IRC Bot Description (at www.w3.org)
16:04:21 <paulc> Topic: ACTION items
16:04:30 <paulc> ACTION-29?
16:04:30 <trackbot> ACTION-29 -- Philippe Le Hégaret to follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring -- due 2010-07-15 -- OPEN
16:04:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/29
16:04:32 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-29 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:04:43 <Zakim> +Laura_Carlson
16:04:56 <paulc> plh: The PSIG is still waiting on feedback on the license.  Not sure when this will time out.
16:05:00 <Zakim> +??P7
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16:05:14 <paulc> plh: Getting feedback is a blocker.  No timeline for PSIG action.
16:05:30 <paulc> ACTION-29 due in 1 month
16:05:30 <trackbot> ACTION-29 Follow up on the idea of a free-software-compatible license for a note on HTML authoring due date now in 1 month
16:05:46 <janina> zakim, drop janina
16:05:46 <Zakim> Janina is being disconnected
16:05:47 <Zakim> -Janina
16:05:54 <paulc> plh: If anything happends before this plh will report it right away.
16:05:59 <janina> zakim, call janina
16:05:59 <Zakim> ok, janina; the call is being made
16:06:00 <paulc> ACITON-183?
16:06:01 <Zakim> +Janina
16:06:07 <rubys> http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10173
16:06:08 <paulc> ACTION-183?
16:06:08 <trackbot> ACTION-183 -- Kris Krueger to and Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML -- due 2010-07-15 -- CLOSED
16:06:08 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/actions/183
16:06:11 <pimpbot> 1110173: krisk@microsoft.com, P2, NEW, 13Foreign Content
16:06:12 <pimpbot> Title: ACTION-183 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:06:19 <paulc> This was completed by filing bug 10173.
16:06:22 <pimpbot> 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10173 krisk@microsoft.com, P2, NEW, 13Foreign Content
16:06:41 <paulc> I just muted myself to cut the noise.
16:06:53 <rubys> close action-183
16:06:55 <trackbot> ACTION-183 And Testint TF to open bug on default mode when embedding SVG in HTML closed
16:06:56 <Zakim> + +1.415.595.aaaa
16:07:04 <paulc> Topic: New issues this week
16:07:07 <mjs> Zakim, +1.415.595.aaaa is me
16:07:07 <Zakim> +mjs; got it
16:07:10 <paulc> None.
16:07:20 <paulc> Topic: Working Group decisions
16:07:38 <Zakim> + +1.206.850.aabb
16:07:47 <paulc> Issues 30, 88, 95, 96 and 97 surveys have closed and are pending.
16:07:57 <paulc> plh: What is the timeline for getting these done?
16:08:07 <paulc> issue-30?
16:08:07 <trackbot> ISSUE-30 -- Should HTML 5 include a longdesc attribute for images -- open
16:08:07 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/30
16:08:08 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-30 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:08:39 <paulc> issue-88?
16:08:39 <trackbot> ISSUE-88 -- Should meta/@content allow a list of languages instead of just a single language? -- open
16:08:39 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/88
16:08:40 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-88 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:08:46 <paulc> Issue-95?
16:08:46 <trackbot> ISSUE-95 -- Remove/Discard the Hidden Attribute -- open
16:08:46 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/95
16:08:46 <Zakim> +Julian_Reschke
16:08:47 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-95 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:08:51 <paulc> issue-96?
16:08:51 <trackbot> ISSUE-96 -- Remove/Discard the Progress Element -- open
16:08:51 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/96
16:08:52 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-96 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:08:56 <Zakim> +Shepazu
16:08:56 <paulc> issue-97?
16:08:56 <trackbot> ISSUE-97 -- Remove/Discard the Meter Element -- open
16:08:56 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/97
16:08:57 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-97 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
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16:09:17 <paulc> pbc: We expect at least two of 95, 96 and 97 to be ready for next week.
16:09:28 <paulc> Topic: Issues needing revised proposals
16:09:29 <Julian_> Zakim, who's on the phone?
16:09:29 <Zakim> On the phone I see [Microsoft], Plh, Sam, Radhika_Roy, [Microsoft.a], Michael_Cooper, MikeSmith (muted), Janina, Laura_Carlson, ??P7, mjs, +1.206.850.aabb, Julian_Reschke, Shepazu
16:09:32 <Zakim> [Microsoft] has paulc
16:09:32 <Zakim> [Microsoft.a] has adrianba, franko
16:09:51 <paulc> Issue-31 and Issue-80: awaitng revised proposal.
16:10:07 <paulc> Issue-56 has a revised proposal and it is being discussed.
16:10:33 <paulc> Issue-85 may be obsolete in lieu of bug 10066.
16:10:33 <pimpbot> 11http://www.w3.org/Bugs/Public/show_bug.cgi?id=10066 faulkner.steve@gmail.com, P2, NEW, 13replace section 3.2.6 with the alternative spec text provided
16:10:51 <paulc> Still awaiting a revised proposal on Issue-100.
16:10:59 <paulc> The revised proposals are all due today.
16:11:37 <paulc> pbc: What are we going to do if the revisions are not made available?
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16:11:54 <paulc> rubys: We will probably be forced to process the proposals we do have.
16:12:12 <paulc> Topic: Issues ready for survey processing
16:12:18 <paulc> Issue-4?
16:12:18 <trackbot> ISSUE-4 -- HTML Versioning and DOCTYPEs -- open
16:12:18 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/4
16:12:19 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-4 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:25 <paulc> Issue-84?
16:12:26 <trackbot> ISSUE-84 -- Should spec discourage use of "legacy" doctypes? -- open
16:12:26 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/84
16:12:27 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-84 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:30 <paulc> Issue-101?
16:12:30 <trackbot> ISSUE-101 -- Spec reference for US-ASCII -- open
16:12:30 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/101
16:12:31 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-101 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:12:33 <paulc> Issue-103?
16:12:34 <trackbot> ISSUE-103 -- XML escaping in iframe/@srcdoc -- open
16:12:34 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/html/wg/tracker/issues/103
16:12:35 <pimpbot> Title: ISSUE-103 - HTML Weekly Tracker (at www.w3.org)
16:13:10 <paulc> The issue of authoring conformance is being discussed on the public-html list.  More input would be good.
16:14:25 <pimpbot> bugmail: "[Bug 10083] Remove references to Microdata from within the document" (2 messages in thread) <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0312.html>
16:14:48 <paulc> pbc: Issue-100 is awaiting a revised proposal and should be processed before Issue-103 since the items are related.  See last week's discussion.
16:14:55 <Julian_> Zakim, who's making noise?
16:15:04 <paulc> on mute again.
16:15:06 <Zakim> Julian_, listening for 10 seconds I heard sound from the following: [Microsoft] (25%), Laura_Carlson (4%), Sam (19%)
16:15:18 <paulc> Topic: Other business
16:15:33 <paulc> plh: wanted to report on Testing TF
16:15:47 <paulc> plh: very encouraging progress - 30 more tests approved
16:15:49 <MikeSmith> Zakim, agenda?
16:15:49 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
16:15:50 <Zakim> 1. status check on IANA link-relations registry - http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2010Jul/0033.html [from MikeSmith]
16:15:51 <pimpbot> Title: Re: ACTION-182 and Issue-27 from Julian Reschke on 2010-07-14 (public-html@w3.org from July 2010) (at lists.w3.org)
16:16:04 <paulc> plh: TF has more than 800+ canvas tests in the pipeline.
16:16:15 <paulc> plh: KrisK is working on a test harness.
16:16:35 <paulc> plh: Both MSFT and Opera have offered to submit test results BEFORE CR.
16:16:50 <paulc> plh: W3C plans to aggregate and publish these "early" results.
16:17:06 <paulc> plh: within one month or so there will be publishable test results.
16:17:48 <paulc> plh: There is one canvas test that was failing on many implementations and the TF agreed that several implementation will have to change since the test matched the spec.
16:18:09 <paulc> pbc:  Is that a challenge for other to get involved?
16:18:23 <paulc> plh: it would be good for other implementors to send in results?
16:18:55 <paulc> plh: Plan is to submit results for the "approved" tests only and to increase the number of "approved" tests.
16:19:06 <paulc> pbc on mute again.
16:19:17 <paulc> Topic: Scribe for next meeting.
16:19:40 <paulc> Paul volunteers to scribe for Maciej who will be in the Chair.
16:19:49 <paulc> I defer to Adrian.
16:19:59 <paulc> Adrian will scribe next week.
16:20:08 <paulc> Topic: Adjournment
16:20:17 <paulc> Meeting adjourned at 12:30pm ET.
16:20:20 <Zakim> -Julian_Reschke
16:20:22 <Zakim> - +1.206.850.aabb
16:20:23 <Zakim> -Plh
16:20:23 <Zakim> -Michael_Cooper
16:20:25 <Zakim> -Sam
16:20:25 <Zakim> -[Microsoft.a]
16:20:26 <Laura> bye
16:20:27 <Zakim> -mjs
16:20:29 <MikeSmith> Zakim, drop me
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16:20:44 <paulc> rssagent, generate minutes
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16:21:40 <paulc> rssagent, create the minutes
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16:22:19 <paulc> rssagent, create minutes
16:22:30 <rubys> rrsagent, create minutes
16:22:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/15-html-wg-minutes.html rubys
16:23:20 <paulc> and paul cannot spell tenative as well
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16:32:01 <Zakim> HTML_WG()12:00PM has ended
16:32:03 <Zakim> Attendees were paulc, [Microsoft], Plh, Sam, Radhika_Roy, adrianba, franko, Michael_Cooper, Janina, MikeSmith, Laura_Carlson, mjs, +1.206.850.aabb, Julian_Reschke, Shepazu
16:44:34 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10177] New: Typo in 'An end tag whose tag name is "p"': "sbutton cope" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0313.html>
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17:14:41 <pimpbot> changes: mike: renamed "common attributes" to "global attributes" <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-diffs/2010Jul/0045.html>
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17:44:48 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9673] Remove any reference to a specific Time Stamp format for video captioning from the specification at this time <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0314.html>
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18:14:53 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 10178] New: In the DOM tree visualisation the doctype node is presented weird: The string "html" is marked up like a reference to the definition of the HTML element; like it is done with all following nodes. That just leads to a doubled link to the HTML element defin <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0315.html>
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21:51:48 <pimpbot> planet: Firefox 4 Beta Coverage From Around the World <11http://blog.mozilla.com/news/2010/07/15/firefox-4-beta-coverage-from-around-the-world/>
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23:16:07 <pimpbot> bugmail: [Bug 9767] Consider ignoring document.write() when IE ignores it if comes from the network task source <11http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-bugzilla/2010Jul/0316.html>
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