IRC log of soap-jms on 2010-07-13
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2010/07/13-soap-jms-irc
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- RRSAgent, make logs public
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- Zakim, this will be SJMS
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- ok, trackbot; I see WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM scheduled to start in 8 minutes
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- Meeting: SOAP-JMS Binding Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 13 July 2010
- 15:52:38 [mphillip]
- Zakim, list
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- I see VB_VBWG()10:00AM, Team_()11:00AM, SW_RIF()11:00AM, SW_HCLS(COI)11:00AM, XML_(F2F)3:00AM active
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- also scheduled at this time are HTML_WG(HTMLT)11:00AM, XML_ET-TF()11:00AM, WF_()12:00PM, WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM, T&S_XMLSEC()10:00AM, SW_RDB2RDF()12:00PM
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- WS_SOAP-JM()12:00PM has now started
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- + +44.196.287.aabb
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- zakim, aabb is Mark
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- +Mark; got it
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- Zakim, aacc is eric
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- +eric; got it
- 16:05:27 [mphillip]
- Agenda: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jul/0021.html
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- Chair: Eric
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- TOPIC: Appointment of the scribe
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- Scribe: Mark
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- TOPIC: Approval of prior meeting minutes
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-soap-jms-minutes.html
- 16:07:21 [mphillip]
- No objections - minutes are approved
- 16:07:34 [mphillip]
- TOPIC: Review the agenda
- 16:11:47 [eric]
- Topic: Minutes from last week
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- http://www.w3.org/2010/07/06-soap-jms-minutes.html#item05
- 16:12:31 [mphillip]
- Issue 39 should not have been closed (there was no issue associated with namespace problem)
- 16:13:08 [mphillip]
- Issue 39 resolution was applied for action 188 since last meeting
- 16:13:57 [mphillip]
- Minutes from last week need amending to show that Issue 39 should NOT be closed
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- No objections to this revision to the minutes
- 16:14:34 [mphillip]
- We will add Issue 39 to the applied issues for review
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- TOPIC: Review action items
- 16:15:04 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/146 - Eric - no progress
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/177 - Peter - now closed
- 16:16:05 [mphillip]
- Peter: Change log in the spec didn't reflect Peter's changes
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- close action-179
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- close action-177
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- ACTION-179 Update URI editors spec to reflect latest URI scheme URL closed
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- ACTION-177 Update the spec with the resolution to issue 34 closed
- 16:16:48 [mphillip]
- Eric: 179 was to reflect the latest URI scheme - now closed
- 16:17:07 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/181 - Eric - still open
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/183 - Eric - done
- 16:17:18 [mphillip]
- close action-183
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- ACTION-183 Apply resolution to issue 38 closed
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/186 - Eric - done
- 16:17:42 [mphillip]
- close action-186
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- ACTION-186 Review the spec. looking for other items that will need to change - e.g. editorial notes / nits closed
- 16:17:53 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/187 - Derek - no update
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/188 - Mark - done
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- close action-188
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- ACTION-188 Apply the resolution to issue 39 closed
- 16:18:30 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/actions/189 - Eric - no progress
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- Eric: 190-193 - no progress
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- Mark: 192 - no progress
- 16:19:05 [mphillip]
- TOPIC: Review of editorial nits
- 16:19:20 [mphillip]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jul/0014.html
- 16:21:01 [eric]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jul/0013.html
- 16:23:57 [mphillip]
- Workgroup are happy after skimming the changes - will raise issues after a more careful offline review.
- 16:24:19 [mphillip]
- TOPIC: Raised spec issues
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/41
- 16:24:52 [mphillip]
- Eric: List of spec. editors is incorrect
- 16:25:50 [mphillip]
- Eric: It seems appropriate that we change this list http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jul/0010.html
- 16:26:17 [mphillip]
- No objections to opening Issue 41
- 16:26:32 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION - We should open issue 41
- 16:27:14 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: Issue 41 resolved with the proposed list of editors -i.e. Roland, Phil, Mark, Peter, Eric
- 16:27:31 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/42
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- Eric: Spec abstract should mention WSDL
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- No objections to opening Issue 42
- 16:29:58 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: The proposed resolution to Issue 42 is accepted as written
- 16:30:09 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/43
- 16:31:58 [mphillip]
- Eric: Section 2.2: paragraph #2 has a spurious assertion
- 16:32:16 [mphillip]
- No objections to opening Issue 43
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- RESOLUTION No objections to opening Issue 43
- 16:34:29 [eric]
- New proposal to resolve issue 43:
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- Drop the sentence altogether, and combine the second & third paragraphs, so that they now read:
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- Some of the properties are optional. Properties can be obtained from a number of sources. If a given property is specified in more than one of these, the following list specifies the precedence: the first MUST be used in preference to the second. †
- 16:35:28 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: The proposed resolution to Issue 43 is accepted as written in the IRC log above
- 16:35:50 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/44
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- Eric: The named properties have an RFC2119 "MAY" which is not flagged as an assertion - possible because it is informative
- 16:39:01 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: No objections to opening Issue 44
- 16:41:23 [eric]
- New proposal:
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- For jndiInitialContextFactory, jndiURL, jndiConnectionFactoryName, replace bullet that reads "an optional property", and the bullet that reads "MAY be specified in ..." with the single bullet of: "optional in URI, optional in WSDL, optional in environment"
- 16:41:27 [eric]
- Further....
- 16:44:02 [eric]
- For jndiContextParameter, replace the "MAY be specified ... " bullet to be "optional in URI, optional in WSDL, optional in environment", and change the bullet starting with the sentence "An optional property that MAY be specified more than once" to read "A property that can be specified more than once."
- 16:45:35 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: The proposed resolution to Issue 44 is accepted as written in the IRC log above
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- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/45
- 16:47:01 [mphillip]
- Eric: jndiContext parameter had 4 unflagged RFC2119 keywords. Two are resolved in previous issue
- 16:48:45 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: No objections:- Issue 45 is opened
- 16:50:18 [mphillip]
- Eric: Proposal must be amended to drop the first part which is dealt with in the previous issue
- 16:51:30 [mphillip]
- Eric: this Issue can be considered to refer to only the changes to the fourth bullet
- 16:52:01 [eric]
- Revised proposal: As in the issue tracker, except drop the first part that changes the second bullet.
- 16:52:56 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: The revised proposal (just the 4th bullet) to Issue 45 is accepted
- 16:53:36 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/46
- 16:55:07 [mphillip]
- Eric: Section 2.2: soapjms:replyToName has redundant SHOULD in first bullet
- 16:55:33 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: No objections:- Issue 46 is opened
- 16:56:30 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: The proposed resolution to Issue 46 is accepted as written in the issue
- 16:56:56 [mphillip]
- TOPIC: Accepting applied resolutions
- 16:57:18 [eric]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/39
- 16:57:27 [mphillip]
- http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/soapjms/tracker/issues/39
- 16:58:07 [mphillip]
- http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-soap-jms/2010Jul/0007.html
- 16:59:58 [mphillip]
- RESOLUTION: No objections to accepting the appied changes for Issue 39 - Issue 39 can be closed
- 17:00:34 [mphillip]
- action eric to apply the resolutions to Issues 41-46
- 17:00:35 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-194 - Apply the resolutions to Issues 41-46 [on Eric Johnson - due 2010-07-20].
- 17:01:55 [mphillip]
- If anyone would like to make proposal to the issues discussed in Eric's spec. review, then please raise the issues and include proposals
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- TOPIC: AOB
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- None
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- -Mark
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- -alewis
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- -eric
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- Attendees were +1.919.663.aaaa, alewis, +44.196.287.aabb, Mark, +1.209.474.aacc, +1.781.280.aadd, eric
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2010/07/13-soap-jms-minutes.html mphillip
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